SNOW PERFORMANCE TOYO MT 295's vs. 35's...

BOOOST · 12-02-2008, 10:46 AM

Wanted to get everyones opinions. I know for snow usually a narrower tire works best.

The OEM BFG long trails are terrible in the snow. My wifes car does better than my truck until I put it in 4x4. On my 06 CTD, same issue, when I swapped tires I was amazed at how much better the truck was in the snow. On the 06 I was running 295/70/17 Toyo MT's. ON the 08, I woudl like to run 35x12.50/17 Toyo MT's.

What do you guys think? Think they will be as good int he snow as the 295's, or am I going to regret getting suck a large wide tire?

I travel alot in the winter to snowmobile, and when the snow is flying I don't let road conditions stop me from making it up north, so I need a tire that will give me the perofrmance needed to make the trek.

The difference between stock and the toyos on the last truck, was the difference betweena white knuckle nose to the windshield drive, vs. a cautious but confident drive.

any help is appreciated.

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Gixxer_750 · 12-02-2008, 12:10 PM

i think youll be just fine w. 12.5"...why a mudder though? an at would probally fit the bill better

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whiterocket5.9 · 12-02-2008, 12:33 PM

not toyo but i had 35x 12.5 nitto mudders and did fine...actually a million times better than the stockers period.

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BOOOST · 12-02-2008, 12:46 PM

Why a mudder? Honestly, I like the looks of the mudders way better than an AT. I honestly havent been impressed with any of the mudders I have run on my Jeeps in the snow, but the Toyo's IMO did very well on the old truck in the snow...figure I'll go with what worked well for me in the past.

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Gixxer_750 · 12-02-2008, 12:49 PM

most mudders arent sipped...toyos and the nittos happen to be...i loved my trxus mt's in the snow...the lug pattern shovels snow out and the sipes take care of the ice...try checking them out:thumbsup

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BOOOST · 12-02-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gixxer_750

most mudders arent sipped...toyos and the nittos happen to be...i loved my trxus mt's in the snow...the lug pattern shovels snow out and the sipes take care of the ice...try checking them out:thumbsup

I have my mind made up on Toyo's. Just contemplating size, and I've pretty much made up my mind 35's.

Trxus are nice, but I wouldn't run them on my truck, wouldn't mind trying them on my TJ though. Just haven't had great luck with wear on interco tires.

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NorCalDodgeDsl · 12-02-2008, 01:09 PM

for snow you could always sipe the tires... but if you do that I'd be cautious about any burnouts you do because that can chunk the crap out of a siped tire I've heard

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BOOOST · 12-02-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalDodgeDsl

for snow you could always sipe the tires... but if you do that I'd be cautious about any burnouts you do because that can chunk the crap out of a siped tire I've heard

I dont do many burnouts, but I am a big fan of WOT

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David_411 · 12-02-2008, 09:11 PM

Toyo M/Ts are great in the snow. However they are absolutely horrible in the ice. I'm wondering if I can get them studded.

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**Duluth Diesel** · 12-02-2008, 09:14 PM

Most OEM tires stink, that's a plain fact. I think in the lower 48, studding tires is illegal. Alaska and Canada allow studs though.

If you want a tire to work on snow packed and icy roads, the rule is the more edges and siping, the better the tire will perform. Mud tires are usually poor performers on ice and snow packed roads. The best all around tire I've owned thus far for mud/snow/ice/sand/everything is the Cooper S/T. I'm running the Cooper STT tires currently and the S/T tires were much better on snow and ice.

-Chuck

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schloe · 12-02-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Diesel

Most OEM tires stink, that's a plain fact. I think in the lower 48, studding tires is illegal. Alaska and Canada allow studs though.

If you want a tire to work on snow packed and icy roads, the rule is the more edges and siping, the better the tire will perform. Mud tires are usually poor performers on ice and snow packed roads. The best all around tire I've owned thus far for mud/snow/ice/sand/everything is the Cooper S/T. I'm running the Cooper STT tires currently and the S/T tires were much better on snow and ice.

-Chuck

nope. my audi had studs on all 4 corners here in colorado (and quattro, it kicked butt in the snow). a lot of people here use them.

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Danderson · 12-02-2008, 10:08 PM

Consider 285-75-17 Toyo Mt's. Taller and a bit narrower than the 295's. They do have a lower weight rating though.

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12-02-2008, 10:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
BOOOST Diesel Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bridgeview, IL Posts: 1,312 Thanks: 21 Thanked 35 Times in 18 Posts BOOOST's Truck Pics	SNOW PERFORMANCE TOYO MT 295's vs. 35's... Wanted to get everyones opinions. I know for snow usually a narrower tire works best. The OEM BFG long trails are terrible in the snow. My wifes car does better than my truck until I put it in 4x4. On my 06 CTD, same issue, when I swapped tires I was amazed at how much better the truck was in the snow. On the 06 I was running 295/70/17 Toyo MT's. ON the 08, I woudl like to run 35x12.50/17 Toyo MT's. What do you guys think? Think they will be as good int he snow as the 295's, or am I going to regret getting suck a large wide tire? I travel alot in the winter to snowmobile, and when the snow is flying I don't let road conditions stop me from making it up north, so I need a tire that will give me the perofrmance needed to make the trek. The difference between stock and the toyos on the last truck, was the difference betweena white knuckle nose to the windshield drive, vs. a cautious but confident drive. any help is appreciated. __________________ 08 6.7L MEGA 2500 SLT 4X4 68RFE l DIPRICOL OPTIX BOOST/PYRO/TRANS l KORE CHASE l FOX 2.0 RR l CARLI LINKS l CARLI RESEVOIR MOUNTS l TINTED l TS MP-8 l 5" TBE l EGR DELETE l TEKONSHA P3 l LINE-X l PE JACKRABBIT l AFE MEGA CANNON l SMARTY S67PoD l 285 TOYO MT l

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12-02-2008, 12:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gixxer_750 Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Gixxer_750's Truck Pics	i think youll be just fine w. 12.5"...why a mudder though? an at would probally fit the bill better __________________ 2001 4x4 - ACDC ..."i've got gauges so i'll race ya..." Powered by FBD

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whiterocket5.9 Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: riverton, illinois Posts: 606 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post whiterocket5.9's Truck Pics	not toyo but i had 35x 12.5 nitto mudders and did fine...actually a million times better than the stockers period. __________________ 05 dodge 2500 4x4 quad cab sb srw 5.9, 6-speed, 3.73,airaid intake, and 4"free flowin exauhst, p-pup, 35" xtmt procomps

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BOOOST Diesel Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bridgeview, IL Posts: 1,312 Thanks: 21 Thanked 35 Times in 18 Posts BOOOST's Truck Pics	Why a mudder? Honestly, I like the looks of the mudders way better than an AT. I honestly havent been impressed with any of the mudders I have run on my Jeeps in the snow, but the Toyo's IMO did very well on the old truck in the snow...figure I'll go with what worked well for me in the past. __________________ 08 6.7L MEGA 2500 SLT 4X4 68RFE l DIPRICOL OPTIX BOOST/PYRO/TRANS l KORE CHASE l FOX 2.0 RR l CARLI LINKS l CARLI RESEVOIR MOUNTS l TINTED l TS MP-8 l 5" TBE l EGR DELETE l TEKONSHA P3 l LINE-X l PE JACKRABBIT l AFE MEGA CANNON l SMARTY S67PoD l 285 TOYO MT l

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Gixxer_750 Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Gixxer_750's Truck Pics	most mudders arent sipped...toyos and the nittos happen to be...i loved my trxus mt's in the snow...the lug pattern shovels snow out and the sipes take care of the ice...try checking them out:thumbsup __________________ 2001 4x4 - ACDC ..."i've got gauges so i'll race ya..." Powered by FBD

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NorCalDodgeDsl Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 133 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts NorCalDodgeDsl's Truck Pics	for snow you could always sipe the tires... but if you do that I'd be cautious about any burnouts you do because that can chunk the crap out of a siped tire I've heard __________________ 1990 D350 5-Spd . HX-35 Turbo. Silencer ring MIA. 4 inch straight pipe off the turbo into 5 inch stacks. AFC/Smoke/Full power screw turned some. Timing advanced. Grid heater delete. 2000 Ford Powerjoke Intercooler. Ground fuel pin. Amsoil 4510.

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David_411 Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Alberta Posts: 649 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts David_411's Truck Pics	Toyo M/Ts are great in the snow. However they are absolutely horrible in the ice. I'm wondering if I can get them studded. __________________ 1998.5 Dodge 2500 4x4 QC/SB 24V Cummins Diesel. 5 Spd. Espar D5. Dipricol FP, Quad ADR/Pulse, VP not tapped, AirDog FP150, 185,000 Miles. 3rd Gen TB&DSS, Lightforce 170s http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s18/Duramax411/

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Duluth Diesel Supporting Vendor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Superior, WI Posts: 6,525 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Duluth Diesel's Truck Pics	Most OEM tires stink, that's a plain fact. I think in the lower 48, studding tires is illegal. Alaska and Canada allow studs though. If you want a tire to work on snow packed and icy roads, the rule is the more edges and siping, the better the tire will perform. Mud tires are usually poor performers on ice and snow packed roads. The best all around tire I've owned thus far for mud/snow/ice/sand/everything is the Cooper S/T. I'm running the Cooper STT tires currently and the S/T tires were much better on snow and ice. -Chuck __________________ Proud Cummins Forum Sponsor since 2006 Specializing in AMSOIL everything AMSOIL Twin Port Sales - Online Store *Click here for a free catalog or to become an AMSOIL* Dealer Change your thinking, not your oil.**

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Danderson Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Darn near the Mexican border. Posts: 1,803 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts Danderson's Truck Pics	Consider 285-75-17 Toyo Mt's. Taller and a bit narrower than the 295's. They do have a lower weight rating though. __________________ '07 2500 SLT,5.9,reg.cab.,G-56, 4wd,8' Northstar popup 24/7. Carli,Defiant,Kore,Lorenz and MADS.