Dyno Dissapointment San Antonio

Crazytexan · 08-27-2008, 08:50 PM

I broke my intake plenum gasket on the dyno day we had on aug 16th. Fixed my truck the next wednesday and Havnt found a place that was open for me to redeem my #'s. I called every shop in SA and the only place i could get to was Henderson Performance in New Braunsfels. I just came back from there and I sadly I diddn't get my 600+. At Lethal I made 439hp and that was with 15lbs boost and dropping rapidly. Now i'm in the mid 50 range and only got an extra 100hp out of the 35lbs boost difference. I made 503hp and 919tq with no electronics and my best run with the adrenaline on 6 was 541hp and 949tq.

After the first 3 pulls we determined the dyno was reading clean and the culprit now is the truck itself. I was expecting a little over 600 judging off Cliff & Weazels trucks making that range with VERY similar setups. The only MAJOR factor i'm missing is theirs is a 5spd and i'm an auto.

The Operator told me that auto's can loose around 21-25% power through the trans and manuals are more like 15-17%. Using those #'s we Projected an estimated 614hp at the wheels if it were a 5spd and 721 at the motor but these numbers have NOT been proved and until i do my conversion i guess i'm sitting at 541hp. Heres a Video...

Fueling up to 3300 not a bit over and 50psi...(still stock valve springs)

YouTube - Zach's MonsterVP Dyno

Heres the Idle and some smoke lingerin around...

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Last edited by Crazytexan : 08-27-2008 at 09:00 PM.

fordkiller43 · 08-27-2008, 08:53 PM

I know you didnt hit the numbers you wanted man... but still really good numbers!

so you ready to sell me that auto yet Zach!?

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'02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

Weazel · 08-27-2008, 08:59 PM

im sorry, i just dont believe that dyno... you should be putting out more than that

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Crazytexan · 08-27-2008, 08:59 PM

I sure am, Thanks for the input. Call me when your ready to buy it.

Quote:

im sorry, i just dont believe that dyno... you should be putting out more than that

"I think i'll get a second opinion doc.."

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98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

Last edited by Crazytexan : 08-27-2008 at 09:01 PM.

Crazytexan · 08-27-2008, 09:12 PM

Also this was a dynojet 248x

and just lookin over my #'s I made 503 no electronics....with the Adrenaline on i only gained 38hp....I'm going to check the wire tap and See if I can go back to Lethal Performance and use their dyno. Thats the one I broke my truck on and see if I dont make more #'s there. The ADR HAS to be giving me more than 38hp. Heck a superchip programmer woulda given me more than that.

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98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

Last edited by Crazytexan : 08-27-2008 at 10:02 PM.

BCSCUMMINS · 08-27-2008, 11:54 PM

If you can not get back on a Lethal call up A.R.T. in buda. We took the mega-cab there the week after San Antonio. I think they charge $125 an hour on the dyno.

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2001.5 Reg cab 3500 SO pumped HO, TST comp, smarty, Jr Adkins 240hp injectors, fully polished B1/B2 twins, O rings, studs, grid heater delete, polished ATS intake horn, ATS 3 piece manifold, snow performance water meth, SBC 3600 DD, traction bars, HD springs.

Crazytexan · 08-28-2008, 09:45 PM

Thats a little more than i was wantin to pay and kinda further away...But if all els fails i'll do that. I'm checking for mishaps with the ARD. No way I only gained 38hp from the ADR. I'm also doin things with injectors....well see in a few weeks.

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98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

fordkiller43 · 08-28-2008, 09:48 PM

Hey Zach.... have you talked to Richard today and hear about my lovely day on the interstate??!!

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'02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

Crazytexan · 08-28-2008, 09:50 PM

On the phone with him right now talkin about a few ideas...

What happened?

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98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

fordkiller43 · 08-28-2008, 09:52 PM

tell him to explain it to ya! Too much typing!

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'02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

Crazytexan · 08-28-2008, 09:59 PM

too late...you know how it is talkin to him....hes always got another call commin in or one hes gotta make. I'll call you tomorrow and get the story,

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98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

fordkiller43 · 08-28-2008, 10:06 PM

to sum it up a bit......

I was on my way to pick up a quad i bought dirt cheap and all he!! broke loose.......I was driving down 190W in the fast lane and my truck jerked to the left.... HARD!!! I went off the interstate fishtailed then got back on the highway.. thought someone hit my a$$! I look around and no one near me. So I said man that was a wind gust from he!! So I drive 300 yards and it does it again. Truck pulls hard to the left.... then it all went downhill from there.... my steering felt like death wobble and my truck starting screechin and bangin... I turned off the next exit... doin 40 MPH!! and jumped out the truck and the top of my driverside wheel was tucked an inch inside my fender flare!!!!!!!!!!

My tires stick out about 4 inches normally! I blew my wheel bearing to pieces!!! I mean literally... It looked like a grenade went off in my hub. So I gotta do a hub assembly now... 300 BUCKS!!! What a day Zach!!!!

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'02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

08-27-2008, 08:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Crazytexan Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bergheim TX Posts: 717 Crazytexan's Truck Pics	Dyno Dissapointment San Antonio I broke my intake plenum gasket on the dyno day we had on aug 16th. Fixed my truck the next wednesday and Havnt found a place that was open for me to redeem my #'s. I called every shop in SA and the only place i could get to was Henderson Performance in New Braunsfels. I just came back from there and I sadly I diddn't get my 600+. At Lethal I made 439hp and that was with 15lbs boost and dropping rapidly. Now i'm in the mid 50 range and only got an extra 100hp out of the 35lbs boost difference. I made 503hp and 919tq with no electronics and my best run with the adrenaline on 6 was 541hp and 949tq. After the first 3 pulls we determined the dyno was reading clean and the culprit now is the truck itself. I was expecting a little over 600 judging off Cliff & Weazels trucks making that range with VERY similar setups. The only MAJOR factor i'm missing is theirs is a 5spd and i'm an auto. The Operator told me that auto's can loose around 21-25% power through the trans and manuals are more like 15-17%. Using those #'s we Projected an estimated 614hp at the wheels if it were a 5spd and 721 at the motor but these numbers have NOT been proved and until i do my conversion i guess i'm sitting at 541hp. Heres a Video... Fueling up to 3300 not a bit over and 50psi...(still stock valve springs) YouTube - Zach's MonsterVP Dyno Heres the Idle and some smoke lingerin around... __________________ 98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867 Last edited by Crazytexan : 08-27-2008 at 09:00 PM.

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08-27-2008, 08:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
fordkiller43 Diesels in my blood..... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copperas Cove, TX Posts: 1,528 fordkiller43's Truck Pics	I know you didnt hit the numbers you wanted man... but still really good numbers! so you ready to sell me that auto yet Zach!? __________________ '02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

08-27-2008, 08:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Weazel Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Brady, TX Posts: 184 Weazel's Truck Pics	im sorry, i just dont believe that dyno... you should be putting out more than that __________________ 2000 Quad Cab, 5 speed, 4x4, DRW Special thanks to: Pure Diesel Power, Coaltrain Diesel, and my beer drinkin buddies www.myspace.com/smokin24valve

08-27-2008, 09:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crazytexan Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bergheim TX Posts: 717 Crazytexan's Truck Pics	Also this was a dynojet 248x and just lookin over my #'s I made 503 no electronics....with the Adrenaline on i only gained 38hp....I'm going to check the wire tap and See if I can go back to Lethal Performance and use their dyno. Thats the one I broke my truck on and see if I dont make more #'s there. The ADR HAS to be giving me more than 38hp. Heck a superchip programmer woulda given me more than that. __________________ 98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867 Last edited by Crazytexan : 08-27-2008 at 10:02 PM.

08-27-2008, 11:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
BCSCUMMINS Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Elgin Tx Posts: 81 BCSCUMMINS's Truck Pics	If you can not get back on a Lethal call up A.R.T. in buda. We took the mega-cab there the week after San Antonio. I think they charge $125 an hour on the dyno. __________________ 2001.5 Reg cab 3500 SO pumped HO, TST comp, smarty, Jr Adkins 240hp injectors, fully polished B1/B2 twins, O rings, studs, grid heater delete, polished ATS intake horn, ATS 3 piece manifold, snow performance water meth, SBC 3600 DD, traction bars, HD springs.

08-28-2008, 09:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Crazytexan Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bergheim TX Posts: 717 Crazytexan's Truck Pics	Thats a little more than i was wantin to pay and kinda further away...But if all els fails i'll do that. I'm checking for mishaps with the ARD. No way I only gained 38hp from the ADR. I'm also doin things with injectors....well see in a few weeks. __________________ 98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

08-28-2008, 09:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
fordkiller43 Diesels in my blood..... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copperas Cove, TX Posts: 1,528 fordkiller43's Truck Pics	Hey Zach.... have you talked to Richard today and hear about my lovely day on the interstate??!! __________________ '02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

08-28-2008, 09:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Crazytexan Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bergheim TX Posts: 717 Crazytexan's Truck Pics	On the phone with him right now talkin about a few ideas... What happened? __________________ 98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

08-28-2008, 09:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
fordkiller43 Diesels in my blood..... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copperas Cove, TX Posts: 1,528 fordkiller43's Truck Pics	tell him to explain it to ya! Too much typing! __________________ '02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making

08-28-2008, 09:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Crazytexan Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bergheim TX Posts: 717 Crazytexan's Truck Pics	too late...you know how it is talkin to him....hes always got another call commin in or one hes gotta make. I'll call you tomorrow and get the story, __________________ 98.5 24v. 4x4 silver, MonstervpII, Coaltrain 7x.012 240 sticks, 66/74/14 charger, Fass 150, Studs and rings, Adrenaline, Intake, Exhaust, Billet Tranny built by Coaltrain Diesel, special thanks to Coal Train Diesel 734-673-4867

08-28-2008, 10:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
fordkiller43 Diesels in my blood..... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copperas Cove, TX Posts: 1,528 fordkiller43's Truck Pics	to sum it up a bit...... I was on my way to pick up a quad i bought dirt cheap and all he!! broke loose.......I was driving down 190W in the fast lane and my truck jerked to the left.... HARD!!! I went off the interstate fishtailed then got back on the highway.. thought someone hit my a$$! I look around and no one near me. So I said man that was a wind gust from he!! So I drive 300 yards and it does it again. Truck pulls hard to the left.... then it all went downhill from there.... my steering felt like death wobble and my truck starting screechin and bangin... I turned off the next exit... doin 40 MPH!! and jumped out the truck and the top of my driverside wheel was tucked an inch inside my fender flare!!!!!!!!!! My tires stick out about 4 inches normally! I blew my wheel bearing to pieces!!! I mean literally... It looked like a grenade went off in my hub. So I gotta do a hub assembly now... 300 BUCKS!!! What a day Zach!!!! __________________ '02 2500 4X4 auto; SC VB, Drag Comp, FBD 100's sticks, AFE stg II, Silencer ring MIA, J hook, Banks High Ram, Carter pusher, Triple Pillar w/ Boost, Pyro, and FP gauges, MBRP 5" str8 pipe, 4.5" skyjacker, DSS bar, 35" Bighorns, Frontier bumper... s300 66/14 on its way! Coaltrain trans in the making