AQ Flash

Jimminy · 06-07-2008, 11:02 AM

Just had the AQ flash done yesterday but am unaware of what it was for. All I was told was that it was an update.

Any info on this?

I'm finding out on the forums that I seem to be the first to have this flash done.

Thanks!

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08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

Ramtech · 06-07-2008, 11:15 AM

there aren't any new tsb's. As a tech we're told to load the latest version on the starscan, the computer doesn't tell us any more details. i'll definitely look into it on Monday and let ya know. I was told to by Cummins expect a new flash in October. I didn't even know about it yet.

Jimminy · 06-07-2008, 12:25 PM

I know he said it was AQ because I had even mentioned something about the AP flash and the visor doohicky.

Also, where do I look for the sticker under the hood?

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08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

Ramtech · 06-07-2008, 02:31 PM

i put my stickers on the left fender, some put the sticker on the ecm, some don't even put stickers. the only tsb for the visor labeling is 18-013-08. will let ya know

Jimminy · 06-10-2008, 12:14 PM

Ramtech.....find anything out?

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08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

**Jerry @ Edge** · 06-11-2008, 09:25 AM

Jimminy

do you have a chip on your truck? also does your truck run any differently with this AQ flash? one other thing, what did Dodge say the update was for.

__________________
1997 12valve automatic regular cab white completely stock!

Hemidoc · 06-11-2008, 11:45 AM

SUBJECT:
FLASH: Engine System And Exhaust Aftertreatment System Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves:
==> If eligible, verifying that Emission Recall G30 - Replace Oxygen Sensor
Module and Reprogram ECM has been performed. If not, perform Recall G30 first.
==> Verifying software level, and if necessary, selectively erasing and
reprogramming the Engine Control Module (ECM) with new software.
==> Verifying software level, and if necessary, selectively erasing and
reprogramming the Cab Compartment Node (CCN) module with new software.
==> The installation of a Documentation Kit containing: and Owners Manual Diesel
Supplement, a driver side sun visor label, and an Informational DVD/CD kit.
NOTE: To determine the level of repair that will be required, it will be IMPORTANT to
perform the steps in the DIAGNOSIS section of this Service Bulletin in order
and completely.
MODELS:
2007 - 2008 (DH/D1) Ram Truck (2500 / 3500 Pickup)
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a Cummins 6.7L engine (sale
code ETJ) built on or before February 14, 2008 (MDH 0214XX).
NUMBER: 18-013-08
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: March 13, 2008
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
NOTE: The following conditions and improvements have been addressed with the
latest Engine Control Module (ECM) software. This Service Bulletin (SB) only
addresses the labor associated with the reprogramming of the ECM, the
CCN, and the installation of a Documentation Kit. Any other labor associated
with the performance of additional diagnostics is not addressed by this SB
and must be claimed separately.
A. ISSUES ADDRESSED BY VARIOUS ECM SOFTWARE RELEASES TO DATE:
NOTE: With this latest ECM software release listed in this Service Bulletin, the
following symptoms have been completely addressed.
1. The technician may not be able to reprogram (flash) the PCM with new application
software.
2. One of the following driveability conditions:
a. An intermittent rough engine idle and/or white smoke following initial engine start.
b. A throttle tip-in stumble at engine speeds of 1,300 to 2,100 rpm.
c. An engine hesitation at altitude of 5,000 feet between engine speeds of 1,200 to
1,600 rpm.
d. A turbocharger “chuff-like” sound during rapid deceleration.
3. The vehicle may fail an Emission Inspection Maintenance (I/M) Test because two or
more On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) monitors report that they are not ready for testing.
This condition may cause the customer vehicle to not pass an Emissions I/M test. The
following is a list of OBD Monitors that may report as not ready for testing:
a. Non-Methane Hydrocarbon (NMHC) Catalyst Monitor.
b. Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) Absorber Monitor.
c. Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Monitor.
d. Electrical Charging System Monitor.
e. EGR System Monitor.
f. Oxygen Sensor Monitor.
4. Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) due to one or more of the following Diagnostic
Trouble Codes (DTC):
a. P0101 - Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Rationality
b. P0128 - Thermostat Rationality
c. P061A - ETC Level 2 Torque Performance.
d. U1421 - Implausible Ignition Key Off Time Received
If condition persists perform the appropriate Diagnostic Procedure and, if necessary,
contact STAR for further assistance.
18-013-08 -2-
B. ISSUES IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY BY VARIOUS ECM SOFTWARE RELEASES
TO DATE:
NOTE: The following symptoms and conditions have been significantly enhanced by
the latest ECM software listed in this Service Bulletin. Always check
TechCONNECT to see if there are new or additional Service Bulletins that
may apply to a condition. If condition persists contact STAR for further
assistance.
1. The latest ECM software includes a new extended idle feature to accommodate the
extended idle times present in some duty cycles. This feature may help to reduce the
accumulation of soot in the exhaust aftertreatment system when the engine is idling for
an extended period of time. Briefly how this feature works:
a. As needed, the engine enters an idling mode which dramatically reduces the rate of
soot accumulation in the diesel particulate filter (called “Net Zero”). Further, under
extended idle periods of longer than 2 hours, the engine enters a mode which
reduces the amount of soot accumulated in the diesel particulate filter (called “Net
Reduction”). While in these modes, the idle speed increases to 900 rpm for a period
of time. The idle speed may return to normal idle speed and then return to 900 rpm
to repeat this cycle during very long idle periods.
b. These modes occur automatically provided two conditions are met. The vehicle
must be in Park (automatic transmission) or have the Parking Brake engaged
(manual transmission) for these modes to be enabled. There must also be no
accelerator pedal input.
c. After extended idling, if operation of the engine consists of light loads for short
periods of time the engine will return more quickly to the Net Zero or the Net
Reduction mode of the extended idle operation feature.
d. After extended idling, if operating the engine consists of higher loads for longer
periods of time the engine must again idle for an extended period before the engine
will return to the Net Zero or the Net Reduction mode of the extended idle operation
feature.
2. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P2000 - NOx Absorber Efficiency Below Threshold - Bank 1
b. P2A00 - Oxygen Sensor 1/1 Circuit Performance
c. P2A01 - Oxygen Sensor 1/2 Circuit Performance
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
When performing the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for this condition. Make certain
to remove and thoroughly CLEAN BOTH OXYGEN SENSORS using a clean cloth
and compressed air. Do not use any type of liquid cleaner to clean the oxygen
sensor tips. Use compressed air to remove all soot from the oxygen sensor tip that is
inside (under) the metal shield/cover. Blow compressed air into the center hole of the
sensor shield to remove soot from the sensor tip. Ensure all soot has been removed from
the sensor tip (inside the shield) and on the outside of the sensor tip shield.
-3- 18-013-08
3. After extended idling or if an intake leak is present, the vehicle operator may
experience a MIL illumination and/or an Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC)
message alert due to one or more of the following DTC's:
a. P1451 - Diesel Particulate Filter System Performance.
b. P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation.
c. P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation.
Perform this Service Bulletin and Service Bulletin (SB) 11-002-07. It is VERY
IMPORTANT that SB 11-002-07 be performed COMPLETELY to return the engine and
exhaust aftertreatment systems to a “like new” condition. If condition persists contact
STAR for further assistance.
4. A MIL illumination due to the following DTC:
a. P2262 - Turbocharger Boost Pressure Not Detected - Mechanical
Perform this Service Bulletin and Service Bulletin (SB) 11-003-07. It is VERY
IMPORTANT that SB 11-003-07 be performed COMPLETELY to return the engine and
exhaust aftertreatment systems to a “like new” condition. If condition persists contact
STAR for further assistance.
5. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P0106 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance.
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
6. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P200C - Diesel Particulate Filter Over Temperature - Bank 1
b. P242B - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit Performance - Bank 1 Sensor 3.
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. Ensure that the exhaust
temperature sensors have been thoroughly cleaned for any temperature sensor
related DTC's.
7. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P0401 - EGR System Performance
b. P0402 - EGR Flow Excessive Detected
c. P0403 - EGR Control Circuit - Open
d. P0405 - EGR Position Sensor Circuit Low
e. P042E - EGR Control Stuck Open
f. P0489 - EGR Control Circuit - Low
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. IMPORTANT: Ensure that
the EGR Valve and EGR Temperature Sensor are thoroughly cleaned for any of the
above EGR DTC's occur.
8. A MIL illumination due to the following DTC:
a. P245A - EGR Cooler Bypass Control Circuit - Open.
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. IMPORTANT: Ensure that
the EGR Temperature Sensor is thoroughly cleaned for if this DTC occurs .
18-013-08 -4-
C. IMPROVED DIAGNOSTIC CAPABILITIES:
NOTE: A number of improvements have been made to the engine diagnostics.
Performing this Service Bulletin completely will enable these diagnostic
improvements.
1. Improved Fuel Level Sensor diagnostics in the ECM.
2. Improvement to the single diagnostic DTC P0148 - Fuel Delivery Error. This DTC is
now addressed by the following two DTC diagnostics:
a. P1011 - Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure Too Low
b. P1012 - Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure Too High
Perform this Service Bulletin. If a DTC is present, perform the appropriate Diagnostic
Procedure. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
3. Creation of three new DTC's to address the inlet air temperature sensor separate from
the ambient air temperature sensor. The new DTC's are:
a. P1191 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Rationality / Performance. This DTC
enhances the current DTC P0071 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Rationality / Ambient Air
Temperature Sensor Performance - TIPM.
b. P1192 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Too Low. This DTC enhances the current
DTC P0072 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage Too Low - TIPM.
c. P1193 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Too High. This DTC enhances the current
DTC P0073 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage Too High - TIPM.
Perform this Service Bulletin. If a DTC is present, perform the appropriate Diagnostic
Procedure. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
4. New ECM and CCN software that together will improve the customer understanding of
the exhaust aftertreatment system messages that can be displayed on the overhead
Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC).
Perform this Service Bulletin to update the ECM and CCN software. Install the new sun
visor label.

a. 55350230AX (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
b. 55350235AX (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.
c. 55351230AX (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
d. 55351235AX (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.
6. If the vehicle in question is a 2008 Model Year vehicle, then compare the current
ECM software level part number. Determine if the current ECM software level part
number, recorded in Step 4, is one of the following part numbers (or with a higher
suffix):
a. 62350230AO (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
b. 62350235AP (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.
c. 62351230AO (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
d. 62351235AP (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.

Last edited by Hemidoc : 06-11-2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason: Added content

Jimminy · 06-11-2008, 07:17 PM

This is the AP flash, isn't it?

I had an AQ flash. I still have no idea what it was for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemidoc

SUBJECT:
FLASH: Engine System And Exhaust Aftertreatment System Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves:
==> If eligible, verifying that Emission Recall G30 - Replace Oxygen Sensor
Module and Reprogram ECM has been performed. If not, perform Recall G30 first.
==> Verifying software level, and if necessary, selectively erasing and
reprogramming the Engine Control Module (ECM) with new software.
==> Verifying software level, and if necessary, selectively erasing and
reprogramming the Cab Compartment Node (CCN) module with new software.
==> The installation of a Documentation Kit containing: and Owners Manual Diesel
Supplement, a driver side sun visor label, and an Informational DVD/CD kit.
NOTE: To determine the level of repair that will be required, it will be IMPORTANT to
perform the steps in the DIAGNOSIS section of this Service Bulletin in order
and completely.
MODELS:
2007 - 2008 (DH/D1) Ram Truck (2500 / 3500 Pickup)
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a Cummins 6.7L engine (sale
code ETJ) built on or before February 14, 2008 (MDH 0214XX).
NUMBER: 18-013-08
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: March 13, 2008
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
NOTE: The following conditions and improvements have been addressed with the
latest Engine Control Module (ECM) software. This Service Bulletin (SB) only
addresses the labor associated with the reprogramming of the ECM, the
CCN, and the installation of a Documentation Kit. Any other labor associated
with the performance of additional diagnostics is not addressed by this SB
and must be claimed separately.
A. ISSUES ADDRESSED BY VARIOUS ECM SOFTWARE RELEASES TO DATE:
NOTE: With this latest ECM software release listed in this Service Bulletin, the
following symptoms have been completely addressed.
1. The technician may not be able to reprogram (flash) the PCM with new application
software.
2. One of the following driveability conditions:
a. An intermittent rough engine idle and/or white smoke following initial engine start.
b. A throttle tip-in stumble at engine speeds of 1,300 to 2,100 rpm.
c. An engine hesitation at altitude of 5,000 feet between engine speeds of 1,200 to
1,600 rpm.
d. A turbocharger “chuff-like” sound during rapid deceleration.
3. The vehicle may fail an Emission Inspection Maintenance (I/M) Test because two or
more On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) monitors report that they are not ready for testing.
This condition may cause the customer vehicle to not pass an Emissions I/M test. The
following is a list of OBD Monitors that may report as not ready for testing:
a. Non-Methane Hydrocarbon (NMHC) Catalyst Monitor.
b. Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) Absorber Monitor.
c. Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Monitor.
d. Electrical Charging System Monitor.
e. EGR System Monitor.
f. Oxygen Sensor Monitor.
4. Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) due to one or more of the following Diagnostic
Trouble Codes (DTC):
a. P0101 - Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Rationality
b. P0128 - Thermostat Rationality
c. P061A - ETC Level 2 Torque Performance.
d. U1421 - Implausible Ignition Key Off Time Received
If condition persists perform the appropriate Diagnostic Procedure and, if necessary,
contact STAR for further assistance.
18-013-08 -2-
B. ISSUES IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY BY VARIOUS ECM SOFTWARE RELEASES
TO DATE:
NOTE: The following symptoms and conditions have been significantly enhanced by
the latest ECM software listed in this Service Bulletin. Always check
TechCONNECT to see if there are new or additional Service Bulletins that
may apply to a condition. If condition persists contact STAR for further
assistance.
1. The latest ECM software includes a new extended idle feature to accommodate the
extended idle times present in some duty cycles. This feature may help to reduce the
accumulation of soot in the exhaust aftertreatment system when the engine is idling for
an extended period of time. Briefly how this feature works:
a. As needed, the engine enters an idling mode which dramatically reduces the rate of
soot accumulation in the diesel particulate filter (called “Net Zero”). Further, under
extended idle periods of longer than 2 hours, the engine enters a mode which
reduces the amount of soot accumulated in the diesel particulate filter (called “Net
Reduction”). While in these modes, the idle speed increases to 900 rpm for a period
of time. The idle speed may return to normal idle speed and then return to 900 rpm
to repeat this cycle during very long idle periods.
b. These modes occur automatically provided two conditions are met. The vehicle
must be in Park (automatic transmission) or have the Parking Brake engaged
(manual transmission) for these modes to be enabled. There must also be no
accelerator pedal input.
c. After extended idling, if operation of the engine consists of light loads for short
periods of time the engine will return more quickly to the Net Zero or the Net
Reduction mode of the extended idle operation feature.
d. After extended idling, if operating the engine consists of higher loads for longer
periods of time the engine must again idle for an extended period before the engine
will return to the Net Zero or the Net Reduction mode of the extended idle operation
feature.
2. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P2000 - NOx Absorber Efficiency Below Threshold - Bank 1
b. P2A00 - Oxygen Sensor 1/1 Circuit Performance
c. P2A01 - Oxygen Sensor 1/2 Circuit Performance
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
When performing the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for this condition. Make certain
to remove and thoroughly CLEAN BOTH OXYGEN SENSORS using a clean cloth
and compressed air. Do not use any type of liquid cleaner to clean the oxygen
sensor tips. Use compressed air to remove all soot from the oxygen sensor tip that is
inside (under) the metal shield/cover. Blow compressed air into the center hole of the
sensor shield to remove soot from the sensor tip. Ensure all soot has been removed from
the sensor tip (inside the shield) and on the outside of the sensor tip shield.
-3- 18-013-08
3. After extended idling or if an intake leak is present, the vehicle operator may
experience a MIL illumination and/or an Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC)
message alert due to one or more of the following DTC's:
a. P1451 - Diesel Particulate Filter System Performance.
b. P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation.
c. P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation.
Perform this Service Bulletin and Service Bulletin (SB) 11-002-07. It is VERY
IMPORTANT that SB 11-002-07 be performed COMPLETELY to return the engine and
exhaust aftertreatment systems to a “like new” condition. If condition persists contact
STAR for further assistance.
4. A MIL illumination due to the following DTC:
a. P2262 - Turbocharger Boost Pressure Not Detected - Mechanical
Perform this Service Bulletin and Service Bulletin (SB) 11-003-07. It is VERY
IMPORTANT that SB 11-003-07 be performed COMPLETELY to return the engine and
exhaust aftertreatment systems to a “like new” condition. If condition persists contact
STAR for further assistance.
5. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P0106 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance.
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
6. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P200C - Diesel Particulate Filter Over Temperature - Bank 1
b. P242B - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit Performance - Bank 1 Sensor 3.
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. Ensure that the exhaust
temperature sensors have been thoroughly cleaned for any temperature sensor
related DTC's.
7. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's:
a. P0401 - EGR System Performance
b. P0402 - EGR Flow Excessive Detected
c. P0403 - EGR Control Circuit - Open
d. P0405 - EGR Position Sensor Circuit Low
e. P042E - EGR Control Stuck Open
f. P0489 - EGR Control Circuit - Low
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. IMPORTANT: Ensure that
the EGR Valve and EGR Temperature Sensor are thoroughly cleaned for any of the
above EGR DTC's occur.
8. A MIL illumination due to the following DTC:
a. P245A - EGR Cooler Bypass Control Circuit - Open.
Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective
DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. IMPORTANT: Ensure that
the EGR Temperature Sensor is thoroughly cleaned for if this DTC occurs .
18-013-08 -4-
C. IMPROVED DIAGNOSTIC CAPABILITIES:
NOTE: A number of improvements have been made to the engine diagnostics.
Performing this Service Bulletin completely will enable these diagnostic
improvements.
1. Improved Fuel Level Sensor diagnostics in the ECM.
2. Improvement to the single diagnostic DTC P0148 - Fuel Delivery Error. This DTC is
now addressed by the following two DTC diagnostics:
a. P1011 - Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure Too Low
b. P1012 - Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure Too High
Perform this Service Bulletin. If a DTC is present, perform the appropriate Diagnostic
Procedure. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
3. Creation of three new DTC's to address the inlet air temperature sensor separate from
the ambient air temperature sensor. The new DTC's are:
a. P1191 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Rationality / Performance. This DTC
enhances the current DTC P0071 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Rationality / Ambient Air
Temperature Sensor Performance - TIPM.
b. P1192 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Too Low. This DTC enhances the current
DTC P0072 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage Too Low - TIPM.
c. P1193 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Too High. This DTC enhances the current
DTC P0073 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage Too High - TIPM.
Perform this Service Bulletin. If a DTC is present, perform the appropriate Diagnostic
Procedure. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance.
4. New ECM and CCN software that together will improve the customer understanding of
the exhaust aftertreatment system messages that can be displayed on the overhead
Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC).
Perform this Service Bulletin to update the ECM and CCN software. Install the new sun
visor label.

a. 55350230AX (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
b. 55350235AX (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.
c. 55351230AX (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
d. 55351235AX (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.
6. If the vehicle in question is a 2008 Model Year vehicle, then compare the current
ECM software level part number. Determine if the current ECM software level part
number, recorded in Step 4, is one of the following part numbers (or with a higher
suffix):
a. 62350230AO (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
b. 62350235AP (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.
c. 62351230AO (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State.
d. 62351235AP (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State.

__________________
08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

Jimminy · 06-11-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cummin'81

Jimminy

do you have a chip on your truck? also does your truck run any differently with this AQ flash? one other thing, what did Dodge say the update was for.

No chip. All stock. I haven't noticed anything different in the truck at all.

When I asked for the flash, I asked him if I was going to be getting the visor info and he looked at me funny and said that I was getting the AQ flash. I said, "Oh....what does that do." All he said was that it was an "update".

I'm calling tomorrow and asking for the papers on it so I can let everybody know.

__________________
08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

Jimminy · 06-13-2008, 09:58 AM

I called the dealership this morning and it was IN FACT an AQ flash. I'm going Monday to pick up what little info they can give me. AGAIN, all he said was that it was a software update

__________________
08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

Jimminy · 06-17-2008, 10:19 AM

FYI

AQ info

__________________
08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

Ramtech · 06-19-2008, 09:35 PM

jimminy, little confused how the WCM is involved with the AQ flash. I've performed this TSB and it doesn't involve reprogramming the ECM. I found the AQ flash yesterday and there is not any info attached. When we connect the scanner, the latest and "greatest" software automatically comes up. sometimes cummins doesn't tell us what the flash does. if anything comes up i'll let ya know.

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Jimminy Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 36 Jimminy's Truck Pics	AQ Flash Just had the AQ flash done yesterday but am unaware of what it was for. All I was told was that it was an update. Any info on this? I'm finding out on the forums that I seem to be the first to have this flash done. Thanks! __________________ 08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

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06-07-2008, 11:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ramtech Tech Specialist Join Date: May 2008 Location: Del Rio, TX Posts: 244 Ramtech's Truck Pics	there aren't any new tsb's. As a tech we're told to load the latest version on the starscan, the computer doesn't tell us any more details. i'll definitely look into it on Monday and let ya know. I was told to by Cummins expect a new flash in October. I didn't even know about it yet.

06-07-2008, 12:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jimminy Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 36 Jimminy's Truck Pics	I know he said it was AQ because I had even mentioned something about the AP flash and the visor doohicky. Also, where do I look for the sticker under the hood? __________________ 08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

06-07-2008, 02:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ramtech Tech Specialist Join Date: May 2008 Location: Del Rio, TX Posts: 244 Ramtech's Truck Pics	i put my stickers on the left fender, some put the sticker on the ecm, some don't even put stickers. the only tsb for the visor labeling is 18-013-08. will let ya know

06-10-2008, 12:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jimminy Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 36 Jimminy's Truck Pics	Ramtech.....find anything out? __________________ 08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

06-11-2008, 09:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jerry @ Edge Edge Diesel Performance Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 60 Jerry @ Edge's Truck Pics	Jimminy do you have a chip on your truck? also does your truck run any differently with this AQ flash? one other thing, what did Dodge say the update was for. __________________ 1997 12valve automatic regular cab white completely stock!

06-11-2008, 11:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hemidoc Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Hemidoc's Truck Pics	SUBJECT: FLASH: Engine System And Exhaust Aftertreatment System Enhancements OVERVIEW: This bulletin involves: ==> If eligible, verifying that Emission Recall G30 - Replace Oxygen Sensor Module and Reprogram ECM has been performed. If not, perform Recall G30 first. ==> Verifying software level, and if necessary, selectively erasing and reprogramming the Engine Control Module (ECM) with new software. ==> Verifying software level, and if necessary, selectively erasing and reprogramming the Cab Compartment Node (CCN) module with new software. ==> The installation of a Documentation Kit containing: and Owners Manual Diesel Supplement, a driver side sun visor label, and an Informational DVD/CD kit. NOTE: To determine the level of repair that will be required, it will be IMPORTANT to perform the steps in the DIAGNOSIS section of this Service Bulletin in order and completely. MODELS: 2007 - 2008 (DH/D1) Ram Truck (2500 / 3500 Pickup) NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a Cummins 6.7L engine (sale code ETJ) built on or before February 14, 2008 (MDH 0214XX). NUMBER: 18-013-08 GROUP: Vehicle Performance DATE: March 13, 2008 SYMPTOM/CONDITION: NOTE: The following conditions and improvements have been addressed with the latest Engine Control Module (ECM) software. This Service Bulletin (SB) only addresses the labor associated with the reprogramming of the ECM, the CCN, and the installation of a Documentation Kit. Any other labor associated with the performance of additional diagnostics is not addressed by this SB and must be claimed separately. A. ISSUES ADDRESSED BY VARIOUS ECM SOFTWARE RELEASES TO DATE: NOTE: With this latest ECM software release listed in this Service Bulletin, the following symptoms have been completely addressed. 1. The technician may not be able to reprogram (flash) the PCM with new application software. 2. One of the following driveability conditions: a. An intermittent rough engine idle and/or white smoke following initial engine start. b. A throttle tip-in stumble at engine speeds of 1,300 to 2,100 rpm. c. An engine hesitation at altitude of 5,000 feet between engine speeds of 1,200 to 1,600 rpm. d. A turbocharger “chuff-like” sound during rapid deceleration. 3. The vehicle may fail an Emission Inspection Maintenance (I/M) Test because two or more On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) monitors report that they are not ready for testing. This condition may cause the customer vehicle to not pass an Emissions I/M test. The following is a list of OBD Monitors that may report as not ready for testing: a. Non-Methane Hydrocarbon (NMHC) Catalyst Monitor. b. Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) Absorber Monitor. c. Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Monitor. d. Electrical Charging System Monitor. e. EGR System Monitor. f. Oxygen Sensor Monitor. 4. Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) due to one or more of the following Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC): a. P0101 - Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Rationality b. P0128 - Thermostat Rationality c. P061A - ETC Level 2 Torque Performance. d. U1421 - Implausible Ignition Key Off Time Received If condition persists perform the appropriate Diagnostic Procedure and, if necessary, contact STAR for further assistance. 18-013-08 -2- B. ISSUES IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY BY VARIOUS ECM SOFTWARE RELEASES TO DATE: NOTE: The following symptoms and conditions have been significantly enhanced by the latest ECM software listed in this Service Bulletin. Always check TechCONNECT to see if there are new or additional Service Bulletins that may apply to a condition. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. 1. The latest ECM software includes a new extended idle feature to accommodate the extended idle times present in some duty cycles. This feature may help to reduce the accumulation of soot in the exhaust aftertreatment system when the engine is idling for an extended period of time. Briefly how this feature works: a. As needed, the engine enters an idling mode which dramatically reduces the rate of soot accumulation in the diesel particulate filter (called “Net Zero”). Further, under extended idle periods of longer than 2 hours, the engine enters a mode which reduces the amount of soot accumulated in the diesel particulate filter (called “Net Reduction”). While in these modes, the idle speed increases to 900 rpm for a period of time. The idle speed may return to normal idle speed and then return to 900 rpm to repeat this cycle during very long idle periods. b. These modes occur automatically provided two conditions are met. The vehicle must be in Park (automatic transmission) or have the Parking Brake engaged (manual transmission) for these modes to be enabled. There must also be no accelerator pedal input. c. After extended idling, if operation of the engine consists of light loads for short periods of time the engine will return more quickly to the Net Zero or the Net Reduction mode of the extended idle operation feature. d. After extended idling, if operating the engine consists of higher loads for longer periods of time the engine must again idle for an extended period before the engine will return to the Net Zero or the Net Reduction mode of the extended idle operation feature. 2. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's: a. P2000 - NOx Absorber Efficiency Below Threshold - Bank 1 b. P2A00 - Oxygen Sensor 1/1 Circuit Performance c. P2A01 - Oxygen Sensor 1/2 Circuit Performance Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. When performing the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for this condition. Make certain to remove and thoroughly CLEAN BOTH OXYGEN SENSORS using a clean cloth and compressed air. Do not use any type of liquid cleaner to clean the oxygen sensor tips. Use compressed air to remove all soot from the oxygen sensor tip that is inside (under) the metal shield/cover. Blow compressed air into the center hole of the sensor shield to remove soot from the sensor tip. Ensure all soot has been removed from the sensor tip (inside the shield) and on the outside of the sensor tip shield. -3- 18-013-08 3. After extended idling or if an intake leak is present, the vehicle operator may experience a MIL illumination and/or an Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC) message alert due to one or more of the following DTC's: a. P1451 - Diesel Particulate Filter System Performance. b. P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation. c. P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation. Perform this Service Bulletin and Service Bulletin (SB) 11-002-07. It is VERY IMPORTANT that SB 11-002-07 be performed COMPLETELY to return the engine and exhaust aftertreatment systems to a “like new” condition. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. 4. A MIL illumination due to the following DTC: a. P2262 - Turbocharger Boost Pressure Not Detected - Mechanical Perform this Service Bulletin and Service Bulletin (SB) 11-003-07. It is VERY IMPORTANT that SB 11-003-07 be performed COMPLETELY to return the engine and exhaust aftertreatment systems to a “like new” condition. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. 5. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's: a. P0106 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance. Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. 6. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's: a. P200C - Diesel Particulate Filter Over Temperature - Bank 1 b. P242B - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit Performance - Bank 1 Sensor 3. Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. Ensure that the exhaust temperature sensors have been thoroughly cleaned for any temperature sensor related DTC's. 7. A MIL illumination due to one of the following DTC's: a. P0401 - EGR System Performance b. P0402 - EGR Flow Excessive Detected c. P0403 - EGR Control Circuit - Open d. P0405 - EGR Position Sensor Circuit Low e. P042E - EGR Control Stuck Open f. P0489 - EGR Control Circuit - Low Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. IMPORTANT: Ensure that the EGR Valve and EGR Temperature Sensor are thoroughly cleaned for any of the above EGR DTC's occur. 8. A MIL illumination due to the following DTC: a. P245A - EGR Cooler Bypass Control Circuit - Open. Perform this Service Bulletin and the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures for the respective DTC. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. IMPORTANT: Ensure that the EGR Temperature Sensor is thoroughly cleaned for if this DTC occurs . 18-013-08 -4- C. IMPROVED DIAGNOSTIC CAPABILITIES: NOTE: A number of improvements have been made to the engine diagnostics. Performing this Service Bulletin completely will enable these diagnostic improvements. 1. Improved Fuel Level Sensor diagnostics in the ECM. 2. Improvement to the single diagnostic DTC P0148 - Fuel Delivery Error. This DTC is now addressed by the following two DTC diagnostics: a. P1011 - Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure Too Low b. P1012 - Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure Too High Perform this Service Bulletin. If a DTC is present, perform the appropriate Diagnostic Procedure. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. 3. Creation of three new DTC's to address the inlet air temperature sensor separate from the ambient air temperature sensor. The new DTC's are: a. P1191 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Rationality / Performance. This DTC enhances the current DTC P0071 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Rationality / Ambient Air Temperature Sensor Performance - TIPM. b. P1192 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Too Low. This DTC enhances the current DTC P0072 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage Too Low - TIPM. c. P1193 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Too High. This DTC enhances the current DTC P0073 - Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage Too High - TIPM. Perform this Service Bulletin. If a DTC is present, perform the appropriate Diagnostic Procedure. If condition persists contact STAR for further assistance. 4. New ECM and CCN software that together will improve the customer understanding of the exhaust aftertreatment system messages that can be displayed on the overhead Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC). Perform this Service Bulletin to update the ECM and CCN software. Install the new sun visor label. a. 55350230AX (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State. b. 55350235AX (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State. c. 55351230AX (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State. d. 55351235AX (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State. 6. If the vehicle in question is a 2008 Model Year vehicle, then compare the current ECM software level part number. Determine if the current ECM software level part number, recorded in Step 4, is one of the following part numbers (or with a higher suffix): a. 62350230AO (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State. b. 62350235AP (or higher) = DH 2500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State. c. 62351230AO (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Manual Transmission 50 State. d. 62351235AP (or higher) = D1 3500 6.7L Automatic Transmission 50 State. Last edited by Hemidoc : 06-11-2008 at 11:50 AM. 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06-13-2008, 09:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jimminy Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 36 Jimminy's Truck Pics	I called the dealership this morning and it was IN FACT an AQ flash. I'm going Monday to pick up what little info they can give me. AGAIN, all he said was that it was a software update __________________ 08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

06-17-2008, 10:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jimminy Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 36 Jimminy's Truck Pics	FYI AQ info __________________ 08 2500 MegaCab SXT 6.7, 6 speed Auto, 4x4

06-19-2008, 09:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ramtech Tech Specialist Join Date: May 2008 Location: Del Rio, TX Posts: 244 Ramtech's Truck Pics	jimminy, little confused how the WCM is involved with the AQ flash. I've performed this TSB and it doesn't involve reprogramming the ECM. I found the AQ flash yesterday and there is not any info attached. When we connect the scanner, the latest and "greatest" software automatically comes up. sometimes cummins doesn't tell us what the flash does. if anything comes up i'll let ya know.