Cummins Hub Cap Logo!

wildcat · 05-12-2008, 08:01 PM

This is the second part of what appears to be a 3 part series (Minus -1) on removing “Ram” Logos, and replacing them with Cummins logos. (I have debadged my truck, which unofficially, was modification #1.) My original reasoning was because I’m going for the whole “Silver and Black theme”, with a reduction in gaudy chrome badges, (Obviously, chrome Cummins badges don’t fit into my “Gaudy” filter!) That is because I’m not particularly “dissatisfied” with Dodge, but I AM particularly pleased with the Cummins aspect of my truck, which should kind of help you understand where I’m coming from with these mods. Clear as mud?
Here we go!

If you decided to debadge your truck, and NOT do the front grille mod,
(SHAME ON YOU!) You will have 2 Cummins badges to work with. If you DID do the front grille mod, you have one left over badge.

Either way, all is not lost!
The dealer has plenty of logos for you. The part # for the 2007 Cummins "C" is 55078116AA. You could probably also use the 2005 Cummins "C".
My Dealer wanted $20.00 each for these. I’m hoping your dealer is cheaper, but on the bright side, so far, no problems with mods for warranty. :Fingers crossed:

Geez! I’m getting a little windy here, so let’s get to the actual mod, shall we?

OK. The very first step is to remove all your hub caps. Turn them over, so you can see the inside of them. Note that at the center of the cap there is a protrusion of plastic.

This needs to be removed, a couple of smacks with a hammer does the trick.

Next, we are going to use this reference to transpose a “Center” to the outside of the hub.
Take a soldering iron with a pointed tip, and with it fully heated, melt through the inside mark, until it burns through on the outside. Doesn’t have to burn through much, an 1/8” hole is great plenty.

When you are done, you should have a Ram head with a “Bull’s-eye” hole clearly visible.

After you have treated all 4 hub caps to the same procedure, it’s time to move on to prepping the “Cummins” “C”.

In order to shorten this tech article, please refer to this article for how to prep your “C”.
Pay close attention to how to separate the “turbo charged" portion of the logo.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/te...rill-logo.html

In this pic, I show the Ram head being drilled out, but the actual technique was to use my feet to hold the hubcap while drilling. The hole saw you use to completely remove the Ram head is 2 1/2".

When you are done, it should look like this:

It’s not really important if the hole you drilled is perfectly centered, what is important, is that there is NO remainder of the Ram’s head. A flat surface is what you are after. If your hole is a little off center, remove the protruding Ram horn so you have a flat surface.

Just a shot of the Ram head that was removed…

Next, we cut a 3 ¼” hole, I decided on plastic, because it’s easy to work with, if all you have is metal, you could do that too, And actually come up with some custom variations of this modification. Do not think you are limited by what I did. Your ONLY limitation is your imagination!
Here is my piece:

After some trimming of “Plastic Burrs”, it will fit nicely.

Scuff the plastic (Or metal) pieces for paint adhesion.

OK. Admittedly, I painted my pieces Black BEFORE filling in the Center hole…
Live and learn… BTW, I used a hot Glue gun to fill in the center hole. Worked great!

I would recommend you fill in the center hole before painting your pieces… On with the article…

This is the paint I used,. Honestly, if you do one coat, even if it’s heavy, your results will be better than mine. In other words, a touch up coat with this paint is difficult.

Ok, once the paint is dry, it’s time to glue the new piece to the hub.
My choice was RTV, Black. Run a bead along the ledge on the hub cap.

Place the new piece on the hub cap, using a light “Rotate and grind” motion.
All 4 of these are done.

Flip the hub over and ensure the RTV has purchase on both the hub and the cut out piece.
Just use your finger to ensure the RTV sealsto the hub and to your new piece.

No Pic… (I was drinkin’… SUE me!!)

Anyhooo.. let’s move on to the Cool part of attaching the “C” logo!! It looks like this when it’s done.

OK on the truck it looks like this:

Disregard the truck cover…

More Pics:

As Always, any questions are certainly welcome!

__________________
Bill Mish
2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq
ACDC

Last edited by wildcat : 05-13-2008 at 01:30 AM. Reason: punctuation

cumminsturbo94 · 05-12-2008, 08:11 PM

thats SWEET!! i would have never thought of that.

i also like you rims what kind are they ?

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4x4, 3.55's, 47rh, autometer pyro boost and trans on the a-pillar, muffler and silencer ring MIA.

OHIO COAL ROLLERS

powell5589 · 05-12-2008, 08:25 PM

nice! never even would have thought of that, let alone attempted it!

wildcat · 05-12-2008, 09:34 PM

OHHH, QUIT!! You guys! I'm Blushing!

ok. whatever.

Seriously, thanks for the props.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind all that, if you Debadged and then did my grille mod, then this will cost you $60 Bucks, if you have both of your debadged Cummins logos, then its only $40 Bucks.

Just sayin'...

But then again, I don't CARE!! My truck is ORIGINAL and COOL!

Want your's to be?
Just askin'...

__________________
Bill Mish
2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq
ACDC

wildcat · 05-12-2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cumminsturbo94

thats SWEET!! i would have never thought of that.

i also like you rims what kind are they ?

Those are SUPER CHEAP Cragar Soft 8's!!

But, then again, I do my own mods, which should indicate how much $$ I have to spend!!

__________________
Bill Mish
2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq
ACDC

***harvey4804*** · 05-12-2008, 09:49 PM

Great idea!!! Now... I just need a lift, rims, and tires and I'm there!

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1996 Chevy C2500 350 Vortec V8 NV4500, 7.5" Fabtech lift, 35" rubber, Eagle Alloys, K&N, Hooker Comp Headers, Flowmaster, and a bunch of other things I wasted my money on.
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***ibcummin*** · 05-13-2008, 12:12 AM

Very good idea! I like it.

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Replacement: 2008 Nissan Altima SE 3.5.

sublmnl · 05-13-2008, 12:28 AM

Def. original. I love it. Good job!

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07 2500 5.9 4dr 4x4 G56. New motor so no mods for now.

Caleb S · 05-13-2008, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibcummin

Very good idea! I like it.

X2 that looks really good

. Nice job

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wildcat · 05-13-2008, 01:26 AM

Thanks you guys!
I edited my post to include the right size hole saws, and I see now I also forgot to include the part number for the Cummins "C", Guess I'll go back and put that in!

__________________
Bill Mish
2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq
ACDC

wildcat · 05-13-2008, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey4804

Great idea!!! Now... I just need a lift, rims, and tires and I'm there!

You could do this with stock tires and wheels. Those are stock hub caps.

__________________
Bill Mish
2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq
ACDC

theskippuh · 05-13-2008, 09:27 AM

Wildcat,

Did your stock hub covers snap right onto the Cragar wheels or did you have to make a mod?

__________________
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93 Ford Bronco/351W/32X12.5 Goodyear AT/S
00' Cobia 220WA w/Yamaha 225 ox66 00' Polaris Sportsman 500 HO

05-12-2008, 08:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
wildcat Super Moderator/TECH SPECIALIST Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,542 wildcat's Truck Pics	Cummins Hub Cap Logo! This is the second part of what appears to be a 3 part series (Minus -1) on removing “Ram” Logos, and replacing them with Cummins logos. (I have debadged my truck, which unofficially, was modification #1.) My original reasoning was because I’m going for the whole “Silver and Black theme”, with a reduction in gaudy chrome badges, (Obviously, chrome Cummins badges don’t fit into my “Gaudy” filter!) That is because I’m not particularly “dissatisfied” with Dodge, but I AM particularly pleased with the Cummins aspect of my truck, which should kind of help you understand where I’m coming from with these mods. Clear as mud? Here we go! If you decided to debadge your truck, and NOT do the front grille mod, (SHAME ON YOU!) You will have 2 Cummins badges to work with. If you DID do the front grille mod, you have one left over badge. Either way, all is not lost! The dealer has plenty of logos for you. The part # for the 2007 Cummins "C" is 55078116AA. You could probably also use the 2005 Cummins "C". My Dealer wanted $20.00 each for these. I’m hoping your dealer is cheaper, but on the bright side, so far, no problems with mods for warranty. :Fingers crossed: Geez! I’m getting a little windy here, so let’s get to the actual mod, shall we? OK. The very first step is to remove all your hub caps. Turn them over, so you can see the inside of them. Note that at the center of the cap there is a protrusion of plastic. This needs to be removed, a couple of smacks with a hammer does the trick. Next, we are going to use this reference to transpose a “Center” to the outside of the hub. Take a soldering iron with a pointed tip, and with it fully heated, melt through the inside mark, until it burns through on the outside. Doesn’t have to burn through much, an 1/8” hole is great plenty. When you are done, you should have a Ram head with a “Bull’s-eye” hole clearly visible. After you have treated all 4 hub caps to the same procedure, it’s time to move on to prepping the “Cummins” “C”. In order to shorten this tech article, please refer to this article for how to prep your “C”. Pay close attention to how to separate the “turbo charged" portion of the logo. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/te...rill-logo.html In this pic, I show the Ram head being drilled out, but the actual technique was to use my feet to hold the hubcap while drilling. The hole saw you use to completely remove the Ram head is 2 1/2". When you are done, it should look like this: It’s not really important if the hole you drilled is perfectly centered, what is important, is that there is NO remainder of the Ram’s head. A flat surface is what you are after. If your hole is a little off center, remove the protruding Ram horn so you have a flat surface. Just a shot of the Ram head that was removed… Next, we cut a 3 ¼” hole, I decided on plastic, because it’s easy to work with, if all you have is metal, you could do that too, And actually come up with some custom variations of this modification. Do not think you are limited by what I did. Your ONLY limitation is your imagination! Here is my piece: After some trimming of “Plastic Burrs”, it will fit nicely. Scuff the plastic (Or metal) pieces for paint adhesion. OK. Admittedly, I painted my pieces Black BEFORE filling in the Center hole… Live and learn… BTW, I used a hot Glue gun to fill in the center hole. Worked great! I would recommend you fill in the center hole before painting your pieces… On with the article… This is the paint I used,. Honestly, if you do one coat, even if it’s heavy, your results will be better than mine. In other words, a touch up coat with this paint is difficult. Ok, once the paint is dry, it’s time to glue the new piece to the hub. My choice was RTV, Black. Run a bead along the ledge on the hub cap. Place the new piece on the hub cap, using a light “Rotate and grind” motion. All 4 of these are done. Flip the hub over and ensure the RTV has purchase on both the hub and the cut out piece. Just use your finger to ensure the RTV sealsto the hub and to your new piece. No Pic… (I was drinkin’… SUE me!!) Anyhooo.. let’s move on to the Cool part of attaching the “C” logo!! It looks like this when it’s done. OK on the truck it looks like this: Disregard the truck cover… More Pics: As Always, any questions are certainly welcome! __________________ Bill Mish 2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq ACDC Last edited by wildcat : 05-13-2008 at 01:30 AM. Reason: punctuation

05-13-2008, 09:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
theskippuh Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 70 theskippuh's Truck Pics	Hub cover snap on ? Wildcat, Did your stock hub covers snap right onto the Cragar wheels or did you have to make a mod? __________________ 06'/White/2500/SLT/5.9L/48RE/3.73/4x4/SRW/ Bone Stock 93 Ford Bronco/351W/32X12.5 Goodyear AT/S 00' Cobia 220WA w/Yamaha 225 ox66 00' Polaris Sportsman 500 HO

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05-12-2008, 08:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
cumminsturbo94 Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 567 cumminsturbo94's Truck Pics	thats SWEET!! i would have never thought of that. i also like you rims what kind are they ? __________________ '94 ram 2500 12-valve, soon to be silver 4x4, 3.55's, 47rh, autometer pyro boost and trans on the a-pillar, muffler and silencer ring MIA. OHIO COAL ROLLERS

05-12-2008, 08:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
powell5589 Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hecker, IL Posts: 95 powell5589's Truck Pics	nice! never even would have thought of that, let alone attempted it!

05-12-2008, 09:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
wildcat Super Moderator/TECH SPECIALIST Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,542 wildcat's Truck Pics	OHHH, QUIT!! You guys! I'm Blushing! ok. whatever. Seriously, thanks for the props. I'd like to take this opportunity to remind all that, if you Debadged and then did my grille mod, then this will cost you $60 Bucks, if you have both of your debadged Cummins logos, then its only $40 Bucks. Just sayin'... But then again, I don't CARE!! My truck is ORIGINAL and COOL! Want your's to be? Just askin'... __________________ Bill Mish 2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq ACDC

05-12-2008, 09:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
*harvey4804* Skrew- EPA CARB OPEC PETA Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stafford VA, Loveland OH, Ramona CA Posts: 1,136 harvey4804's Truck Pics	Great idea!!! Now... I just need a lift, rims, and tires and I'm there! __________________ 2004.5, QC, LB, Crapomatic, 4x4 Factory Nav. AirDog 100, Arson Kit, AEM Bruteforce HD, Silverline 5" t409, BMK-11, Mag-Hytec, Bilstein 7100, B&W, Tekonsha P3, 1996 Chevy C2500 350 Vortec V8 NV4500, 7.5" Fabtech lift, 35" rubber, Eagle Alloys, K&N, Hooker Comp Headers, Flowmaster, and a bunch of other things I wasted my money on. HMX-1 Executive Flight Detachment Avionics Technician

05-13-2008, 12:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
*ibcummin* Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Inwood, WV Posts: 719 ibcummin's Truck Pics	Very good idea! I like it. __________________ 2005 RAM 3500 H.O4x4, QUAD CAB, LARAMIE Gone but not forgotton! Replacement: 2008 Nissan Altima SE 3.5.

05-13-2008, 12:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
sublmnl Cummins Nut Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cleburne, Tx Posts: 450 sublmnl's Truck Pics	Def. original. I love it. Good job! __________________ 07 2500 5.9 4dr 4x4 G56. New motor so no mods for now.

05-13-2008, 01:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
wildcat Super Moderator/TECH SPECIALIST Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,542 wildcat's Truck Pics	Thanks you guys! I edited my post to include the right size hole saws, and I see now I also forgot to include the part number for the Cummins "C", Guess I'll go back and put that in! __________________ Bill Mish 2007 Dodge 3500 4X4/5.9L/48RE, KORE, SRT-10 hood, Recon, Isspro, ICEBOX/Amsoil, Walbro, SMARTY, FBD CFM+, FBD HGD, FBD 5" exhaust. FBD TC & VB 418hp/800tq ACDC