Best method for correcting front driveshaft - Page 2

Mocho · 11-01-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bthanks

How would dropping your cross member leave you with issues later? All its doing is lowerng the main support, then it just has higher blocks that the tranny bolts 2.... I dont understand why your worried about that but you want to use high angle joints? The only reason for dropping the tranny crossmember so you can clock the tcase 20* instead of 10*

The crossmember is there to support your frame etc, and lowering it will allow things to twist more I am thinking, as I have seen some people complain about it after lower the crossmember. High angle u-joints wouldn't affect anything.

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ban89 · 11-01-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mudslinger

The problem is that those high angle jobs aren't meant to be run on the freeway everyday. I was told that I would burn up a high angle by the shaft shop because of the full time hubs keeping the front spinning 100% of the time. They would be fine with a dynatrac kit though.

Exactly

I ran a dual CV high angle unit on my superduty because of the huge lift. It worked fine on the street because the hubs allow the front drive shaft to stay stationary. If it was rotating all the time like it would on our dodges it would wear out too fast. I also still had a pretty bad vibration around 30 mph when the hubs were locked and in 4x4 because of the excessive movement/angle of the joints.

a free spin hub kit and high angle drive shaft to do what you want is going to get expensive quick.

If you have to lift it 8''+ t-case indexing/cross member drops are just part of the game.

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Ramanian · 11-01-2009, 07:17 PM

Im going thru this same deal with my 11" lift, unless you have a front hub kit that makes it a free floating front axle(non-Spinning unless engaged) you would not be able to just put a high angle joint and/or just lenghten the front shaft. It would brake and send money down the drain. My setup will be adjustable indexing ring, with a lenghtened front shaft and good night. it will be around the $400 dollar mark by the end of the week and ready to roll. Just a lil heads up from my experiance, and many others.

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Mega Blue · 11-01-2009, 08:37 PM

Get the ouo kit and you will have zero issues dropping the x-member

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DieselMachine · 11-02-2009, 11:03 PM

I second that, attitude performance ring for the adjustability and OUO crossmember drop to keep things from hitting each other. I'm running this setup on a 6 inch lift but due to the tire and wheel combination I want to run I will have to go bigger. I can do that with this setup and not have to worry about drive line issues.

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**Skyd Ram** · 11-02-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselMachine

I second that, attitude performance ring for the adjustability and OUO crossmember drop to keep things from hitting each other. I'm running this setup on a 6 inch lift but due to the tire and wheel combination I want to run I will have to go bigger. I can do that with this setup and not have to worry about drive line issues.

I've got a couple of customers that now have this setup and are problem free!

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ram tuff96 · 11-03-2009, 02:40 AM

thats weird i know for a fact my front drive line does not spin in 2 high i don't see y it would the axle is un locked

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Mega Blue · 11-03-2009, 09:30 AM

?? 2 g's might be different I don't know

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DustinB · 11-03-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ram tuff96

thats weird i know for a fact my front drive line does not spin in 2 high i don't see y it would the axle is un locked

if your front driveline is stock, it spins the shaft...guaranteed!!

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**Skyd Ram** · 11-03-2009, 02:24 PM

2nd gens have the front axle disconnect on the passenger axle shaft. Assuming that he has an open diff, it probably won't spin.

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Mocho · 11-03-2009, 02:52 PM

Almost positive 2nd gens all don't spin right from the factory.

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ram tuff96 · 11-03-2009, 02:59 PM

ok right then so my 2nd gen never spins with the t-case in 2 wheel drive but if i am in 2 low i know for a fact it does so these newer trucks the front dirve shaft is always spining??
that seems like it would be a little rough on parts

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11-01-2009, 07:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ramanian Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gresham,OR Posts: 433 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Ramanian's Truck Pics	Im going thru this same deal with my 11" lift, unless you have a front hub kit that makes it a free floating front axle(non-Spinning unless engaged) you would not be able to just put a high angle joint and/or just lenghten the front shaft. It would brake and send money down the drain. My setup will be adjustable indexing ring, with a lenghtened front shaft and good night. it will be around the $400 dollar mark by the end of the week and ready to roll. Just a lil heads up from my experiance, and many others. __________________ 02 2500 LB CTD, Auto, AFE Intake, 4" Turbo back, w/6" CAT Stack, T/C Switch, , 11" Off Road Components Lift, 40'' Maxxis Trepadors, PSC Steering Brace, Superchips, Much more to come

11-01-2009, 08:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mega Blue Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 722 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts Mega Blue's Truck Pics	Get the ouo kit and you will have zero issues dropping the x-member __________________ 6.7 Megacab, XRT175/Edge Juice W/Att, Banks CAI, 5" TBE, EGR/cooler MIA, 8" lift OUO, BDS, Rize mutt, Thuren Steering and track bar, Indexed TXVR case, 20" BMF's 37" Toyo's, 2.5 Kings to come!

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DieselMachine Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post DieselMachine's Truck Pics	I second that, attitude performance ring for the adjustability and OUO crossmember drop to keep things from hitting each other. I'm running this setup on a 6 inch lift but due to the tire and wheel combination I want to run I will have to go bigger. I can do that with this setup and not have to worry about drive line issues. __________________ 2006 Cummins Quad 3500, LWB, Smarty, Muffler mia, AEM Brute Force HD, Revtek 6" front, 5" rear w/ 35x12.50's on 18's...soon to be 37x13.50s hp:413 tq:773

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ram tuff96 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: highland, ca Posts: 227 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts ram tuff96's Truck Pics	thats weird i know for a fact my front drive line does not spin in 2 high i don't see y it would the axle is un locked __________________ 96 12v, Driftwood, all orginal47re (even the fluid and filter), 188k, 4x4, 3.54's limited slip, 285/75/16 nitto terra graplers on poished alumin 16's, starwheel tunning, k&n, stright piped out b4 rear tire!

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Mega Blue Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 722 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts Mega Blue's Truck Pics	?? 2 g's might be different I don't know __________________ 6.7 Megacab, XRT175/Edge Juice W/Att, Banks CAI, 5" TBE, EGR/cooler MIA, 8" lift OUO, BDS, Rize mutt, Thuren Steering and track bar, Indexed TXVR case, 20" BMF's 37" Toyo's, 2.5 Kings to come!

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Skyd Ram 07 MegaCummins Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Macomb Twp/Lewiston,MI Posts: 1,256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 61 Times in 55 Posts Skyd Ram's Truck Pics	2nd gens have the front axle disconnect on the passenger axle shaft. Assuming that he has an open diff, it probably won't spin. __________________ Your 3rd Gen source for products from: Carli/Bilstein/Pure Performance/RIZE/Lightforce BMF Wheels/Edge/SMARTY/Snow Performance/MBRP AFE/Randy Ellis Designs/H&S/Dynatrac/Shibby Engineering Addictive Desert Designs/S&B www.8LUGTruckGear.com 888-886-2480

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Mocho Cummins Nut Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 422 Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mocho's Truck Pics	Almost positive 2nd gens all don't spin right from the factory. __________________ 2004.5 3500 Quad Cab 4x4 CTD Laramie 6 spd std A few mods

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ram tuff96 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: highland, ca Posts: 227 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts ram tuff96's Truck Pics	ok right then so my 2nd gen never spins with the t-case in 2 wheel drive but if i am in 2 low i know for a fact it does so these newer trucks the front dirve shaft is always spining?? that seems like it would be a little rough on parts __________________ 96 12v, Driftwood, all orginal47re (even the fluid and filter), 188k, 4x4, 3.54's limited slip, 285/75/16 nitto terra graplers on poished alumin 16's, starwheel tunning, k&n, stright piped out b4 rear tire!