The Smoothest Ride!!!

[ram tuff96]

what will give me the best ride for and descent price that does not give me much or and lift ??

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[12vpowwa]

calri , kore

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[ban89]

Carli Bilstein 2.0 with full deavers for the rear. Best street ride hands down with good offroad performance and 3'' of lift

carli will ride better than kore because of their better spring rates and better valving.

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2007.5 w/ 6.7l, auto, XRT 175hp, Suspended by Carli Bilstein 2.65'' and some Carli extras
Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

[Snofarmer]

I don't get this?
It's a truck for god's sake.

I think it's people who want a "CAR" like ride" are the reason trucks are not as tough or utilitarian as they use to be.

IF you want your truck to ride better put some weight in it.



heck, stock they ride like a boulevard cruiser.

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08, 2500, all stock.my egr plug fell off.

[ban89]

Originally Posted by Snofarmer

I don't get this?
It's a truck for god's sake.

I think it's people who want a "CAR" like ride" are the reason trucks are not as tough or utilitarian as they use to be.

IF you want your truck to ride better put some weight in it.



heck, stock they ride like a boulevard cruiser.

Why not have the best of both worlds?

I have to use my truck as a daily driver and for work I often times have to take clients or do conference calls from my truck. Improved road manners and the ability to actually talk on the phone and not have my teeth jarred out from bouncing is a huge benefit. Friends and family also appreciate the smooth/comfortable street ride my Carli kit has over the procomp lift I had before this or the superduty I had before this truck.

Then on weekends I can still tow my trailer/haul my toys to the desert and offroad this truck better than any street trucks and even beat most performance built offroad trucks.

If you dont have to sacrafice, then why do it?

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2007.5 w/ 6.7l, auto, XRT 175hp, Suspended by Carli Bilstein 2.65'' and some Carli extras
Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

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Last edited by ban89 : 10-25-2009 at 02:53 PM.

[Snofarmer]

I think you would like an El Camino

Why because you can't have your cake & eat it too.

This mentality is why it's becoming harder and harder to find a work truck.
These are not grocery getter's or vehicles to just cruise the boulevard on Sat night.

Now, if you wish to use then as work trucks you need to add airbags , timbrens, add-a-leaf.
You can barely hang a plow off of the front any more because of the people who just want a truck to drive around in.

soft ride = less load capability.

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08, 2500, all stock.my egr plug fell off.

[Dreadnaught]

so you keep your stock suspension. we'll put aftermarket parts on it. we spend money to get the truck to ride like we want it. whats the problem. i don't think anyone is saying the trucks should ride like cars from the factory.

i personally like the way my stock truck rides. but if i had the money, then i would absolutely make it ride nicer. 3" of lift isn't a bad side effect with the carli either.

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[ban89]

El Camino

These trucks will never be your (or anyone's) perfect "work" truck. Your work is different than my work. They could always be better but you'll have to pay to get it there.

Should every truck have super stiff rear leafs for heavy on-road hauling? or super stiff front springs to hold a plow?

I for one would never have the use for a plow in So Cal and super stiff springs would hinder my objective.

Would you ever need 10'' to 14'' of suspension travel and hydrolic bumpstops for offroading? Probably not. So its not going to come that way from the factory.

Yeah it sucks having to spend more $ after you just dropped $30 to $50k+ for a new truck but in the end I had to build mine for my type of work. From daily driving comfort, to towing/hauling heavy loads, to offroading in some of the harshest terrain...and yes it even looks good getting groceries and cruising on a Sat night.

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2007.5 w/ 6.7l, auto, XRT 175hp, Suspended by Carli Bilstein 2.65'' and some Carli extras
Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

[ban89]

soft ride = less load capacity

this is only true to a point.

If you are dealing with linear rate springs you will need a higher spring rate (stiffer) to carry more weight.

But if you are working with progressive rate springs you can have a spring with the initial spring weight lower than stock to provide better on road ride. Then in the lower coils or leafs you can have stiffer than stock to have greater load carrying capacity. That being said you will sag a little because the load has to overcome the initial softer coils/leafs and get down to the heavier load coils/leafs.

You wont get these from the factory because they cost way more than traditional linear coils. This is also one of the reasons why suspension companies' coils/leafs perform better than stock or lift companies.

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2007.5 w/ 6.7l, auto, XRT 175hp, Suspended by Carli Bilstein 2.65'' and some Carli extras
Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

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Last edited by ban89 : 10-25-2009 at 06:55 PM.

[ram tuff96]

well for 1 wouldn't be asking this is i hauled 10k every day now would i???
And for 2 not all of are trucks are cute pavement princesses with some chrome 22's ?
and four 3 if you have ever went over some rough terrain at more than five miles an hour then you would under stand when your bouning your head off the side window because it so stiff.
so thanks for you comments on this BAN89 nice set up also buy the way !!
I have heard alot of good things about Carl but i noticed you said they make a 3 inch coil that would be sweet if it really improves the ride that much and i would mind 1 more inch of lift that would probably be nice for clearance reasons. (i say 1 inch more because i have a 2 inch leveling kit now)
could i buy the springs only from Caril for a decent price ??
And any advise on a good shock for the dollar that would be nice in the dirt as well as the street??
Do long arms help enough as far enhancing ride quality a good amount??

And so all you ppl out there know that think i am Stupid for wanting a nice riding truck know i am not really worried about the rear its not bad with the stock leafs they just need a better shock! Its really the fount end i want to be a little more forgiving !

And now to upset you guys that like the rear load capacity of the leafs with the over load spring i will probably just takem off for the extra travel!

Thanks everyone that a had a positive response your input is appricated ?

As for those of you with your negative b.s. reply's tell them to someone thats askin something really stupid !!! This was asked for the reason that I sated on the head line. I want to your comment didn't help me gain any knowledge just made me remember how many people in this world are a-holes!!

THANKS EVERYONE ELSE!!

[ban89]

Carli's only got 3'' springs right now but they are working on 6'' springs.

You can also call Don Thuren and he can get you some coils in whatever size you want.

Shocks are going to depend on how much you want to spend.

Bilsteins 5100s are a good shock for street and very light offroad use.

The Bilstein 7100s (2.0) will give a better ride both on and offroad. They have a small ressi to help with cooling offroad to prevent fade.

After that you're stepping up to a full King 2.5 or Bilstein 2.65 (9100) These are a lot more $$$ but you can valve them for whatever kind of ride you want and the performance justifies the big price tag.

You wont need long arm conversion for 4'' of lift. Long arms arent really needed until about 6'' of lift. Depending on what you're running now you might need slightly longer stock mount arms to recenter your front axle.

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2007.5 w/ 6.7l, auto, XRT 175hp, Suspended by Carli Bilstein 2.65'' and some Carli extras
Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

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Last edited by ban89 : 10-26-2009 at 01:01 AM.

[bigbulls1954]

Well Ban89 has said it all....I intially was going with the started kit and eventually went with the 2.65 system...Before I got the system I had lots of body roll and when I went through an intersection with drainage furrows I would almost bottom out...Now my truck rides great...It sucks up an little bump on the road and steers like its on rails....Such a pleasure to drive and ride in now. I went with the full leaf deavers and very glad I did...The great thing about these progress springes in the travel one gets...they actually get the most out of their suspension. I pull a 5th wheel thats 16k and the LT air bags work great....

I just returned from a hunting trip in northern nevada and each day I worked my truck hard in the mountains and the roads with the rutts and the big dips where others had spun out the increased travel let me have more weight on the wheels and would go throught them without any problems...

Best put by my nephew...I was telling about my new Carli suspension and I could tell he was about as interested as I would be watching my exwife buy shoes or a purse...We started going up the rough rutty road up this canyon and my nephew said yea this next part of the road you will need you suspension he said jokingly as if I wasn't going to make it...well the truck flexed and articulated and it walked right up and over these be rutts and he said...."wow that was easy"!!!! I just smiled...

Every day I get in my truck I truely enjoy driving it....!!!! But it's what ever a person wants....and yes technology has come along ways from the 40's......LOL....A truck doesn't have to ride like a dead axel to be a truck....the day of the old school dodge power wagons are gone...they rode like hell.....

I hope you get what you want....My advise would be research as much as you can....some people on here are very helpful...thats were I got my info and research and some are still stuck back in the 50's....Give Sage, Mike or Jesse a call at Carli you will be impressed on how much they know on suspension...

Good luck!!!!

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