The Smoothest Ride!!!

[67cummins]

I have kore springs and it aint no caddy!!! I had dont thuren valve me some king 2.5's to make my springs work better and they are great springs when being used to capacity but on road could be better!

Hey OMB are you comin to the mil? I am going to meet up with prozac and hopefully mikey to do some spectating!?

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07.5 6.7L 68rfe Suspended by Kore Tech Series Springs Thuren Valved 2.5 Kings Carli Custom Ca's VH Truss 37 Yoko A/T's Hella 4k's

[hetdiesel]

so basicly if i bought the aluminum block that levels me truck it would not be any different then buying a kore with the springs????

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[ban89]

Originally Posted by hetdiesel

so basicly if i bought the aluminum block that levels me truck it would not be any different then buying a kore with the springs????

Not quite.

They are talking about how KORE uses aluminum drop blocks to correct the sway bar. By using this blocks you keep the stock end links and they can bend very easily. Carli goes the better and more expensive route and uses new high strength endlinks.

From a leveling kit stand point KORE uses springs to lift the truck vs. the spacer/block you mentioned. There are many benefits to the springs including a better on and offraod ride. KORE does use a somewhat stiff spring so many people prefer Carli's progressive rate springs because they offer a better overall ride.

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[Skyd Ram]

Originally Posted by hetdiesel

so basicly if i bought the aluminum block that levels me truck it would not be any different then buying a kore with the springs????

If you do a leveling kit with you stock front springs you will still have the soft/easy to bottom out coils. The Kore springs are way stiffer(read: too stiff) whereas the Carli progressive coils are an improvement over the stock coils without become outrageously stiff.

The drop blocks that Kore uses would have to be 3" tall to correct the sway bar geometry and you would still have the junk factory links. Alot of guys start bending and breaking these after a lift ot level kit even if they don't do any aggressive offroading.

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[ram tuff96]

Originally Posted by Skyd Ram

If you do a leveling kit with you stock front springs you will still have the soft/easy to bottom out coils. The Kore springs are way stiffer(read: too stiff) whereas the Carli progressive coils are an improvement over the stock coils without become outrageously stiff.

The drop blocks that Kore uses would have to be 3" tall to correct the sway bar geometry and you would still have the junk factory links. Alot of guys start bending and breaking these after a lift ot level kit even if they don't do any aggressive offroading.

what you said i can't bottom my front or rear out ?
I have been running no sway bars for close to six months now
I can bottom the front out only if i jump it hard by accident but never the rear
I am looking for a smother ride than stock and want a spring the well let the truck articulate good over things

Cuz as it is with no swaybars i will lift the rear tire like a 2 feet in the air not even close to hitting a bump stop any where

All i want is usable travel
mainly looking for advise on the front springs

after i get the front riding a bit smother i am gonna be gettin into the rear



Is Carli still my best bet cuz in the video on the site and their thest videos they r doing all jumping and woops not showing any acrtulation??

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[ban89]

Yes Carli is still your best bet.

Kore springs are too stiff and stock front springs can bottom pretty easy unless you're running stiff shocks. If you are then the street ride is going to suffer.

no sway bar or their 3rd gen torsion sway bar will allow full articulation of the front axle. Scroll down to see the articulation pic.

Dodge Ram Sway Bar - Carli Suspension Adjustable Sway Control

some Carli axle stuffing pics from the Bilstein 2.65 thread.

Carli Bilstein 2.65 Kit is on!!!

You would be hard pressed to bottom out the stock rear leafs with overloads. But at the same time those leafs wont give much usable travel and articulation is going to suck. Deavers will make a huge difference.

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Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

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[bigbulls1954]

Ban is totally right about the articulation...I just came back from a hunting trip in northern Nevada..I have the 2.65 system with full deavers, control arms, and sway bar all carli and the articulation in the mountains was unbelievable..I will down load my chip and post some pics when I get home tonight...I went through some ruts that was stopping other trucks or making it difficult for them and my truck would just walk right through them...Everyday I was impressed with the articulation...my buddies would be following me and I was driving just were the truck feels comfortable and stable on those roads and my friends couldn't keep up....Awesome stuff...I spent a ton of money and of course I'm not finished but everytime I get in my truck I get a big smile!!!!!!

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[rimert dodge]

do i need proggessive springs and 2.0 shock to get the best ride on dirt roads? or is it only the shocks that help? i do not need any lift just want to be able to blaze down a dirt road a 40-50 mph with out my truck feeling like it ready bounce in to the ditch. its a 06 dually 4x4 3500

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[67cummins]

Both! They compliment each other! The stock springs with an upgraded shock will be better but not in the realm of progressive springs! There are many of dually running carli suspension!

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[ban89]

progressive rate springs have a very light initial spring weight. this allows for a very comfortable street ride and handles the sharp little wash board roads by allowing the spring to move more freely. then deeper in the spring the spring rate rises so when you hit the big bumps, dips, jumps etc you wont bottom out. You will spend most of the time enjoying the soft ride but you will still have the firm spring when you need it.

Then you have to factor in shock valving and get it to work in unison with the springs for the best overall ride. It needs to be light enough to handle the small stuff but still be firm to resist blowing through the valving on the hard stuff. its a LONG process of trial/error and fine tuning to perfectly valve a shock for your spring, vehicle wight, terrain and intended use.

too many times people will buy generic lift company spring and slap on an off the shelf valved fox/king shock and think they have done wonders to their suspension. A little bit better quality progressive rate spring and a properly valved shock will be a HUGE difference.

Kind of like a stock cummins motor vs. a fully built smarty tuned, larger turbo, injectors, upgraded fuel delevery, etc. Yeah they are both the same motor but the one that is tuned will outperform the off the shelf one by a large margin.

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Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps

[rimert dodge]

so maybe ill start with carli starter set
and go from there.
does removing the thick over load bar in the leaf pack help with axle hop ? or do i need track bars?

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ring fell off turbo kitty ran away

[ban89]

I didnt offroad much with stock leafs but I didnt have much wheel hop with the Carli 5-leaf pacs. With the deavers I have now I dont get any wheel hop.

I would get the pacs first and then add the traction bars only if you need them.

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2007.5 w/ 6.7l, auto, XRT 175hp, Suspended by Carli Bilstein 2.65'' and some Carli extras
Class 7 Prerunner 520HP Ford, equal length i-beams/3 link w/ King Coilovers/Bypasses/bumps