One Up Offroad 16" Dodge Suspension!!!!!!

[coilovercummins]

Great lookin truck. I ahve 40" Toyos with 22" wheels and I only have 12" of lift they coulda went with 44's

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[r_anderson65]

Originally Posted by Smokey12v

Any stock truck isn't made for "offroad", so what's your point?

Did someone forget about the power wagon

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[bigblue24v]

Originally Posted by David_411

Cool show truck, but thats about it. Useless as it can not tow a 5th wheel or go offroad.
If you want a functional lift look at Spirson, Kore, or Carli.

youve got to be kidding me

until liftman got hat spirson kit installed on his truck, noone even considered that kit to be half the quality of the other "big companies" if nothing else, i tihnk it would be great to get this lift on a 2007 or 2008 and show what it is really capapable of.

A superlift that lifts the truck 6" and a spirson that lift the truck 6" cant even be compared, they have nothing in common, the price tag is about 4-5k different, and that superlift couldnt perform any where near the level of that spirson.

now imagine that superlift created a 16" lift that included longer control arms, big leaf springs, large coils, shocks etc..ohh..and a nice 16" drop pitman arm. I could see some of your reactions as being valid if thats what I was talking aobut, but ITS NOT

how can you compare a long travel coil over suspension that is basically a complete replacement for everytihng to do with steering and suspension that maintains perfect drive angles, steering geometry, offers huge flex, and can be safely jumped 60 feet through the air about 3-4 feet off the ground with a smooth landing that doesnt appear to bounce the truck everywhere...or break it

please, if you have something helpful to add then say it but if your going to bash something you clearly dont understand..then please hold your opinions to yourself:thumbsup

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[bigblue24v]

Originally Posted by Dfer10

looks like it would have some horrible bump steer

hydraulic ram assist steering shouldnt have any major bump steer

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[r_anderson65]

If I did one of those I would do a full hydraulic steering system

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[clowninmd]

this thread is a great example of people saying whatever they want behind a key board The people talking about breaking things and how unreliable their trucks are because of their lift...funny how in your sig you have larry's, and all kinds of other things that I"M sure have nothing to do with dropping tranny's. I tow a 10k 5th wheel toy hauler with my truck all the time and its still functional without a kore, carli, spirson or thuren big buck kit.

Do what you want! If you want a big ballin' truck to roll down the highway and feel cool, then get it done!

Bottom line is this, build it right the first time, it saves cash in the long run and make it safe. My last rock crawler I built was a yota with about 10" and 37 toyos and it was certainly, "functional":thumbsup

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[r_anderson65]

I at first had a 6" superlift and it was pretty rough. Not much flex and rode like a brick. So then I ended up taking it to my buddy's off road shop and now it has long arms fox shoxs and deaver springs and the new tie rod system and custom drive shafts. And that costed me 3 times as much as the superlift did all together. The differences in companys in that sport can make night and day difference. OUO has that huge red ford with the old school black pin stripping and in one of there videos on you tube its pulling a titan that my buddy made for four wheeler. That thing is crazy

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[dixiemtndiesel]

Originally Posted by Dfer10

looks like it would have some horrible bump steer

This kit has no bump steer it is designed correctly you can move through the hole range of travel and the steering wheel stays straight

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[dixiemtndiesel]

Originally Posted by bigblue24v

youve got to be kidding me

until liftman got hat spirson kit installed on his truck, noone even considered that kit to be half the quality of the other "big companies" if nothing else, i tihnk it would be great to get this lift on a 2007 or 2008 and show what it is really capapable of.

A superlift that lifts the truck 6" and a spirson that lift the truck 6" cant even be compared, they have nothing in common, the price tag is about 4-5k different, and that superlift couldnt perform any where near the level of that spirson.

now imagine that superlift created a 16" lift that included longer control arms, big leaf springs, large coils, shocks etc..ohh..and a nice 16" drop pitman arm. I could see some of your reactions as being valid if thats what I was talking aobut, but ITS NOT

how can you compare a long travel coil over suspension that is basically a complete replacement for everytihng to do with steering and suspension that maintains perfect drive angles, steering geometry, offers huge flex, and can be safely jumped 60 feet through the air about 3-4 feet off the ground with a smooth landing that doesnt appear to bounce the truck everywhere...or break it

please, if you have something helpful to add then say it but if your going to bash something you clearly dont understand..then please hold your opinions to yourself:thumbsup

Well saidlook at the bottom bracket that spearson bolts the coil over shock to its only desined to hold a shock not the weight of the truck

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[dixiemtndiesel]

[quote=bigblue24v;1040130]hydraulic ram assist steering shouldnt have any major bump steer[/QUOTE
you dont even need the ram assist to stop the bump steer the geometry of the system is correct and it does not push against the sterring box

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[bobcat67]

Originally Posted by clowninmd

this thread is a great example of people saying whatever they want behind a key board The people talking about breaking things and how unreliable their trucks are because of their lift...funny how in your sig you have larry's, and all kinds of other things that I"M sure have nothing to do with dropping tranny's. I tow a 10k 5th wheel toy hauler with my truck all the time and its still functional without a kore, carli, spirson or thuren big buck kit.

Do what you want! If you want a big ballin' truck to roll down the highway and feel cool, then get it done!

Bottom line is this, build it right the first time, it saves cash in the long run and make it safe. My last rock crawler I built was a yota with about 10" and 37 toyos and it was certainly, "functional":thumbsup

yeah i have crazy larry on the downloader, thing you don't know is i've never used it and it is a pavement pounder. What are the various other things i have done that contribute to my tranny going out? I'm not saying you will break stuff, but i am allowed to say what has happened to me and I am entitled to my opinion on lift kits and modifications of the sort. That's why this is a FORUM so people can share their points of view on what works for them and what doesn't

[bigblue24v]

Originally Posted by r_anderson65

I at first had a 6" superlift and it was pretty rough. Not much flex and rode like a brick. So then I ended up taking it to my buddy's off road shop and now it has long arms fox shoxs and deaver springs and the new tie rod system and custom drive shafts. And that costed me 3 times as much as the superlift did all together. The differences in companys in that sport can make night and day difference. OUO has that huge red ford with the old school black pin stripping and in one of there videos on you tube its pulling a titan that my buddy made for four wheeler. That thing is crazy

thats sort of what happened to me only i didnt start altering my superlift. i got it because i really didnt plan on taking the truck off road, didnt want to put alot of money into a truck that i wasnt sure I was going to keep, and i didnt have the greatest understanding of suspension. for wheat its designed to do (make the truck taller) it does an alright job, the ride is noticeably better and it seems pretty well put together for making a truck taller. but when it comes to making the truck functional, AALs arent going to get you any travel, factory control arm mounts arent going to give you any more travel, and the list just goes on.

then having the bigger truck, you see dirt, fields, sand, hills, and other little things, and you start to wonder jsut what your truck is capable of, so you go out there and then you realize that hey, this kit isnt exactly designed to crawl over this, or twist and flex to get through that ditch without having wheels come off the ground.

Im not talking aobut going down tough trails, but as far as going to sand dunes, beach, and other little obstacles you see, i would liek to have a truck that was really designed to conquer these things

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