One Up Offroad 16" Dodge Suspension!!!!!!

[firemansdiesel]

The Starter System, 2.0 & ***2.5 System use clevisis or stem top w/ factory towers. They are for mild off road w/ great street ride.

Also the 2.5 system comes w/ Carli's aftermarket towers (the stem top I noted above is for guys who have the Starter or 2.0 system that want to upgrade to the King's w/o spending money on new towers). All other systems (2.65 & 3.0) come w/ Carli's towers. These systems are for off road speeds & of course great on road ride/handling.

Carli does alot of R&D in every possible driving environment before they release to the public (knowing such things like stock towers will not hold up to abuse to off road speed type terrian along w/ other flaws of stock components). That's why when a customer is unsure what system to get. Carli will point them in the right direction for thier truck use.

Dodge Ram Suspension Systems and Components by Carli Suspension

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[firemansdiesel]

Ohhh, the brace is mainly for the 3.0 shock that does a lot of twisting/movement hitting the big stuff at high speeds. Keeps it in line to get the full travel of the shock.

Shock Tower Brace - Dodge Ram Suspension System Components

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[dixiemtndiesel]

Originally Posted by firemansdiesel

I believe it was the stock towers they were using (broke). Atleast one of the things that was mentioned waaaaay back in this thread.

I think it was also mentioned that the truck was beta testing to see if every thing was going to hold up. They found a week point and fixed it.If it wasn't mentioned it has been now.

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[R&DFabrications]

Originally Posted by firemansdiesel

Ohhh, the brace is mainly for the 3.0 shock that does a lot of twisting/movement hitting the big stuff at high speeds. Keeps it in line to get the full travel of the shock.

Shock Tower Brace - Dodge Ram Suspension System Components

im a bit confused. why would the mounts be different from different sized shocks? the only two reasons for changes in coilover/shock size are rod strength(not necessarily body diameter change) and fluid capacity change to compensate for higher boiling temperatures necessary to extreme offroad use. ive seen both of the kits discussed, and theyre really nice, but the lack of a custom tower has always confused me. is it just to make the kit available as a bolt on? otherwise wouldnt a custom tower with a crossover brace be the only way to go? my backround is desert, but of the few full size custom coilover conversions, none higher than 10 inches, ive built, we ALWAYS utilize a custom tower mainly for fear of the frame tearing away or bending outward due to the stress, not to mention a cummins twists frames anyways. little lost as to the longevity of one of these kits without the towers, and even still, what stops the full droop stress of a dual rated coilover compounded with nitrogen pressureized droop, and unsprung weight?

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[DustinB]

Originally Posted by R&DFabrications

im a bit confused. why would the mounts be different from different sized shocks? the only two reasons for changes in coilover/shock size are rod strength(not necessarily body diameter change) and fluid capacity change to compensate for higher boiling temperatures necessary to extreme offroad use. ive seen both of the kits discussed, and theyre really nice, but the lack of a custom tower has always confused me. is it just to make the kit available as a bolt on? otherwise wouldnt a custom tower with a crossover brace be the only way to go? my backround is desert, but of the few full size custom coilover conversions, none higher than 10 inches, ive built, we ALWAYS utilize a custom tower mainly for fear of the frame tearing away or bending outward due to the stress, not to mention a cummins twists frames anyways. little lost as to the longevity of one of these kits without the towers, and even still, what stops the full droop stress of a dual rated coilover compounded with nitrogen pressureized droop, and unsprung weight?

did you not read this post?

Originally Posted by firemansdiesel

The Starter System, 2.0 & ***2.5 System use clevisis or stem top w/ factory towers. They are for mild off road w/ great street ride.

Also the 2.5 system comes w/ Carli's aftermarket towers (the stem top I noted above is for guys who have the Starter or 2.0 system that want to upgrade to the King's w/o spending money on new towers). All other systems (2.65 & 3.0) come w/ Carli's towers. These systems are for off road speeds & of course great on road ride/handling.

Carli does alot of R&D in every possible driving environment before they release to the public (knowing such things like stock towers will not hold up to abuse to off road speed type terrian along w/ other flaws of stock components). That's why when a customer is unsure what system to get. Carli will point them in the right direction for thier truck use.

Dodge Ram Suspension Systems and Components by Carli Suspension

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[pwerwagn]

im a bit confused. why would the mounts be different from different sized shocks? the only two reasons for changes in coilover/shock size are rod strength(not necessarily body diameter change) and fluid capacity change to compensate for higher boiling temperatures necessary to extreme offroad use. ive seen both of the kits discussed, and theyre really nice, but the lack of a custom tower has always confused me. is it just to make the kit available as a bolt on? otherwise wouldnt a custom tower with a crossover brace be the only way to go? my backround is desert, but of the few full size custom coilover conversions, none higher than 10 inches, ive built, we ALWAYS utilize a custom tower mainly for fear of the frame tearing away or bending outward due to the stress, not to mention a cummins twists frames anyways. little lost as to the longevity of one of these kits without the towers, and even still, what stops the full droop stress of a dual rated coilover compounded with nitrogen pressureized droop, and unsprung weight?

A larger diameter shock can also typically be more progressive if valved that way. Carli valves the 3" kits to whatever you want, but granted, if you want 3" kings, you are gonna mob it.
The "pin top" kits are for those that want a little better ride in the dirt, but mainly focus on street.
The tower braces fit any of carli's kits that include towers. There are not diff towers for diff shocks, one set of towers.

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[firemansdiesel]

Originally Posted by R&DFabrications

im a bit confused. why would the mounts be different from different sized shocks? the only two reasons for changes in coilover/shock size are rod strength(not necessarily body diameter change) and fluid capacity change to compensate for higher boiling temperatures necessary to extreme offroad use. ive seen both of the kits discussed, and theyre really nice, but the lack of a custom tower has always confused me. is it just to make the kit available as a bolt on? otherwise wouldnt a custom tower with a crossover brace be the only way to go? my backround is desert, but of the few full size custom coilover conversions, none higher than 10 inches, ive built, we ALWAYS utilize a custom tower mainly for fear of the frame tearing away or bending outward due to the stress, not to mention a cummins twists frames anyways. little lost as to the longevity of one of these kits without the towers, and even still, what stops the full droop stress of a dual rated coilover compounded with nitrogen pressureized droop, and unsprung weight?

Let me put this more simple. The tower brace is used in conjunction of Carli's Towers. Not to be used w/ factory towers. It fabbed to work w/ Carli's towers.

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[R&DFabrications]

got it guys thanks....whewe, so in short, carlis towers are modified, which was the question partially, but the O.U.O ones arent? or just arent crossbraced?

and as for the towers not being different, how is that? not all companies ofer the same dimensions in eyelet or overall body dimension.

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[firemansdiesel]

I don't know about OUO tower fabbing, but Carli's give just enough clearence for the turbo & battery boxes and pull 10"-11" of travel in the front w/ the Bilstien 2.65, King 2.5 & 3.0's they offer.

Billet Shock Towers for Dodge Ram Suspension Systems

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Last edited by firemansdiesel : 06-10-2009 at 04:53 PM.

[R&DFabrications]

ok yah i see that. last one we built has the new fox's on it, PAIN IN MY . but the clearance issues were definately the turbo and intake for the crossover. the shocks themselves presented new issues, such as the ends have a different width than the kings or bilsteins or swayaways, meaning we got to change em! yay for difficult customers. still, looks like if im gonna recomend a bolt on kit this one is my new favorite. though it is not a coilover kit, nor is it truly a longtravel kit like the o.u.o. is. i guess my curiosity is why one off went all out and way high, where as a company like carli, with all of their engineering and product support, doesnt offer a true longtravel coilover kit. but i suppose id be shootin myself in the foot if i pushed em to make one huh?

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[ban89]

Originally Posted by R&DFabrications

ok yah i see that. last one we built has the new fox's on it, PAIN IN MY . but the clearance issues were definately the turbo and intake for the crossover. the shocks themselves presented new issues, such as the ends have a different width than the kings or bilsteins or swayaways, meaning we got to change em! yay for difficult customers. still, looks like if im gonna recomend a bolt on kit this one is my new favorite. though it is not a coilover kit, nor is it truly a longtravel kit like the o.u.o. is. i guess my curiosity is why one off went all out and way high, where as a company like carli, with all of their engineering and product support, doesnt offer a true longtravel coilover kit. but i suppose id be shootin myself in the foot if i pushed em to make one huh?

Give it a couple more months for the longtravel setup...

Carli Bilstein 2.65 Kit is on!!!

The front will be even better.

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[firemansdiesel]

Originally Posted by R&DFabrications

ok yah i see that. last one we built has the new fox's on it, PAIN IN MY . but the clearance issues were definately the turbo and intake for the crossover. the shocks themselves presented new issues, such as the ends have a different width than the kings or bilsteins or swayaways, meaning we got to change em! yay for difficult customers. still, looks like if im gonna recomend a bolt on kit this one is my new favorite. though it is not a coilover kit, nor is it truly a longtravel kit like the o.u.o. is. i guess my curiosity is why one off went all out and way high, where as a company like carli, with all of their engineering and product support, doesnt offer a true longtravel coilover kit. but i suppose id be shootin myself in the foot if i pushed em to make one huh?

Lets just say like Ban89 said. Very short time w/ insane amount of travel. Still in the R&D phase as we speak.

They do have a Ford King Coilover system out (4.5) now.

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