Dual Disk is Slipping a little

JWHPopeye · 05-16-2008, 09:17 AM

What am i going to have to do to fix it? I have a SB DD 3600 Street. I did something stupid and now its starting to slip some. When i get on it hard i can feel it slip then grab. Only tried one 3rd gear launch since i did that stupid thing and itll slip a little at first then grabs. Havnt tried it again or driven real hard since.
Is there anything i can do to fix it or do i need to have the disks and pressure plate replaced?
Also can i upgrade the pressure with the flywheel i currently have?
Thanks
Jeff Hartung

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got smoked · 05-16-2008, 09:32 AM

i'm just curious what was that stupid thing? cause i know them double disk's are suppose to hold alot!

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Smokinrebel · 05-16-2008, 09:34 AM

i have seen some STUPID things done with a SB DD and they held everybit of it. But my buddy that has a 12V pulling truck has over 50 hooks on his DD and he is getting his redone, and made into the next size up...don't know what it is for sure

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killerdodge08 · 05-16-2008, 09:35 AM

Yea they are supposed to. what did you do if you dont mind my askin.

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***tramp_line_ape*** · 05-16-2008, 09:39 AM

i'd like to know, i like to hear about other peoples stupid stuff, it makes me feel better

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JWHPopeye · 05-16-2008, 09:52 AM

Well it may not be as stupid for some but i was telling myself, dont do it, dont do it, its stupid, dont do it. Well i did it anyways. I helped my brother move one weekend and he was riding with me, we were empty. Pulled up to a stop sign that was out in the country with a slight incline. You could see where other people tried doing some little burnouts and i knew i could better, and with my brother with me, i had to show off a little. He likes that stuff. Well did a 3rd gear burnout, no brake and roasted my 315's for about 30', over twice what everyone elses marks where.

Everything was fine. Well i helped him move and went and dropped the trailer back off and on my way back out i was by myself and was coming up to the same stop sign again.
Well as im coming up to the stop sign. I was thinking to myself, that burnout was way too easy, wonder if i can hit 4th. Then for a mile before i stop, im trying to convince myself its stupid dont do it, dont do it and it worked until i stopped at the stop sign.
So i launched in 3rd, roasting my 315's, so i bury the rpms about 3500, hoping the tires will stay spinning when i shift. Well, i hit 4th, dump the clutch, the tires stick, the engine revs, my clutch slips and i dont move. After a few seconds and realize my tires arent spinning i stop and go on my way. When i stopped you could smell the burnt clutch really bad.

I know you can slip a DD and itll be fine but didnt know how much it would actually take. Thought i would just give it some time to work itsself back out but doesnt seem to be working.

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, Amsoil 4510 and Torque Tube, Amsoil BMK-11, 315 BFG A/T's, ISSPRO Gauges.

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Smokinrebel · 05-16-2008, 10:03 AM

hm ya i have seen worse than that and it held....so idk. I have seen a 4th gear holshot at 4000 rpms on a p-pumped 24V and it held everybit of that. And i have seen repeated 3rd gear holeshots in 12Vs.

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JWHPopeye · 05-16-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokinrebel

hm ya i have seen worse than that and it held....so idk. I have seen a 4th gear holshot at 4000 rpms on a p-pumped 24V and it held everybit of that. And i have seen repeated 3rd gear holeshots in 12Vs.

Wonder what plate load they were using though? I have one of the weaker ones.

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, Amsoil 4510 and Torque Tube, Amsoil BMK-11, 315 BFG A/T's, ISSPRO Gauges.

GETERDID · 05-16-2008, 10:13 AM

my SB Con FE hold 3rd and barks 4th

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Smokinrebel · 05-16-2008, 10:14 AM

i couldn't tell you. I know that they are SB DD and that they use them for sled pulling. But i have seen numerous SB DD do big nasty holeshots like it was nothing

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got smoked · 05-16-2008, 10:26 AM

there's a guy my buddy knows that has more power than is suggested for a con fe in a 2nd gen and it holds just fine! but my friend has a 3rd gen with a con fe and he couldn't hold it and i don't think he is putting out as much power. but he is putting in a DD in this weekend and we will see. good luck with it

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***pro99*** · 05-16-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JWHPopeye

What am i going to have to do to fix it? I have a SB DD 3600 Street. I did something stupid and now its starting to slip some. When i get on it hard i can feel it slip then grab. Only tried one 3rd gear launch since i did that stupid thing and itll slip a little at first then grabs. Havnt tried it again or driven real hard since.
Is there anything i can do to fix it or do i need to have the disks and pressure plate replaced?
Also can i upgrade the pressure with the flywheel i currently have?
Thanks
Jeff Hartung

Have you tried called Petter at South Bend yet to see what he could do for you? He is a very understanding person when it come to this stuff. I know because of all the stuff I put him threw myself

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05-16-2008, 09:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
JWHPopeye Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Padre Island, Tx Posts: 471 JWHPopeye's Truck Pics	Dual Disk is Slipping a little What am i going to have to do to fix it? I have a SB DD 3600 Street. I did something stupid and now its starting to slip some. When i get on it hard i can feel it slip then grab. Only tried one 3rd gear launch since i did that stupid thing and itll slip a little at first then grabs. Havnt tried it again or driven real hard since. Is there anything i can do to fix it or do i need to have the disks and pressure plate replaced? Also can i upgrade the pressure with the flywheel i currently have? Thanks Jeff Hartung __________________ 06 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT, 4x4, SWB, Quad Cab, CTD, G56, South Bend DD 3600 Street Clutch, Smarty Beta, Quad Boost Fooler, 5" FBD Turbo Back-NO MUFFLER-NO DRONE , Amsoil 4510 and Torque Tube, Amsoil BMK-11, 315 BFG A/T's, ISSPRO Gauges.

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05-16-2008, 09:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
got smoked Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CACHE VALLEY Posts: 99 got smoked's Truck Pics	i'm just curious what was that stupid thing? cause i know them double disk's are suppose to hold alot! __________________ 2000 black sport 4 in lift nv5600 stock but not for long!

05-16-2008, 09:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
Smokinrebel Diesel Freak Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 729 Smokinrebel's Truck Pics	i have seen some STUPID things done with a SB DD and they held everybit of it. But my buddy that has a 12V pulling truck has over 50 hooks on his DD and he is getting his redone, and made into the next size up...don't know what it is for sure __________________ 98 24V Injectors, Quad Adrenalin, 4in Straight Pipe, K&N Intake, Silencer Ring Removed, Dead Pusher Pump, Georend Triple Disk Convertor and few other odds and ends in tranny All topped with a Loose Nut behind the wheel

05-16-2008, 09:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
killerdodge08 Cummins Fan Join Date: May 2008 Location: martinsville oh Posts: 57 killerdodge08's Truck Pics	Yea they are supposed to. what did you do if you dont mind my askin. __________________ 98.5 edge w/attitude, kn cone, banks ram air intake manifold, stage 5 injectors

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*tramp_line_ape* Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: idaho native, now in trinidad, co Posts: 604 tramp_line_ape's Truck Pics	i'd like to know, i like to hear about other peoples stupid stuff, it makes me feel better __________________ 07 6.7 cummins, 6 speed, one-ton, electric blue, gauges, afe intake, MP-8/Superchip, 4" BADF TB, egr delete, edge w/attitude Give him books and give him books, and all he does is eat the pages I.B.E.W. local 57 America is Union

05-16-2008, 09:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
JWHPopeye Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Padre Island, Tx Posts: 471 JWHPopeye's Truck Pics	Well it may not be as stupid for some but i was telling myself, dont do it, dont do it, its stupid, dont do it. Well i did it anyways. I helped my brother move one weekend and he was riding with me, we were empty. Pulled up to a stop sign that was out in the country with a slight incline. You could see where other people tried doing some little burnouts and i knew i could better, and with my brother with me, i had to show off a little. He likes that stuff. Well did a 3rd gear burnout, no brake and roasted my 315's for about 30', over twice what everyone elses marks where. Everything was fine. Well i helped him move and went and dropped the trailer back off and on my way back out i was by myself and was coming up to the same stop sign again. Well as im coming up to the stop sign. I was thinking to myself, that burnout was way too easy, wonder if i can hit 4th. Then for a mile before i stop, im trying to convince myself its stupid dont do it, dont do it and it worked until i stopped at the stop sign. So i launched in 3rd, roasting my 315's, so i bury the rpms about 3500, hoping the tires will stay spinning when i shift. Well, i hit 4th, dump the clutch, the tires stick, the engine revs, my clutch slips and i dont move. After a few seconds and realize my tires arent spinning i stop and go on my way. When i stopped you could smell the burnt clutch really bad. I know you can slip a DD and itll be fine but didnt know how much it would actually take. Thought i would just give it some time to work itsself back out but doesnt seem to be working. __________________ 06 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT, 4x4, SWB, Quad Cab, CTD, G56, South Bend DD 3600 Street Clutch, Smarty Beta, Quad Boost Fooler, 5" FBD Turbo Back-NO MUFFLER-NO DRONE , Amsoil 4510 and Torque Tube, Amsoil BMK-11, 315 BFG A/T's, ISSPRO Gauges. Last edited by JWHPopeye : 05-16-2008 at 09:54 AM.

05-16-2008, 10:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Smokinrebel Diesel Freak Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 729 Smokinrebel's Truck Pics	hm ya i have seen worse than that and it held....so idk. I have seen a 4th gear holshot at 4000 rpms on a p-pumped 24V and it held everybit of that. And i have seen repeated 3rd gear holeshots in 12Vs. __________________ 98 24V Injectors, Quad Adrenalin, 4in Straight Pipe, K&N Intake, Silencer Ring Removed, Dead Pusher Pump, Georend Triple Disk Convertor and few other odds and ends in tranny All topped with a Loose Nut behind the wheel

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GETERDID Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lakeview OREGON Posts: 2,750 GETERDID's Truck Pics	my SB Con FE hold 3rd and barks 4th __________________ I want to say thanks to AEM! 1999CTD shortbox 4x4 5" FBD exhaust, adrenaline, 150hp jammers, AEM brute force intake, leveling kit, SR MIA. and other stuff.MY VIDS Myspace[/url]..Diesel Nut Motorsports

05-16-2008, 10:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Smokinrebel Diesel Freak Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 729 Smokinrebel's Truck Pics	i couldn't tell you. I know that they are SB DD and that they use them for sled pulling. But i have seen numerous SB DD do big nasty holeshots like it was nothing __________________ 98 24V Injectors, Quad Adrenalin, 4in Straight Pipe, K&N Intake, Silencer Ring Removed, Dead Pusher Pump, Georend Triple Disk Convertor and few other odds and ends in tranny All topped with a Loose Nut behind the wheel

05-16-2008, 10:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
got smoked Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CACHE VALLEY Posts: 99 got smoked's Truck Pics	there's a guy my buddy knows that has more power than is suggested for a con fe in a 2nd gen and it holds just fine! but my friend has a 3rd gen with a con fe and he couldn't hold it and i don't think he is putting out as much power. but he is putting in a DD in this weekend and we will see. good luck with it __________________ 2000 black sport 4 in lift nv5600 stock but not for long!