Urgent MICHIGAN Legislative Alert

**IC-Smoke** · 02-06-2006, 09:39 PM

It appears this topic is back in the legislature.

URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT

Michigan Bill Would Ban Most Aftermarket Exhaust Systems

A bill (H.B. 5543) to ban vehicles equipped with replacement exhaust systems that differ from the design specifications of the original muffler has been introduced in Michigan by Rep. Rick Jones (rickjones@house.mi.gov). H.B. 5543 would also prohibit the sale and use of exhaust systems that exceed an 80-decibel limit at a distance of 50 feet. The bill has been referred to the Michigan House Transportation Committee for consideration.

In some states, noise limits for modified exhaust systems are established by a SEMA model bill and applicable to an easy to administer test standard. The SEMA model provides for the testing of vehicle exhaust noise to a standard adopted by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) with an established noise limit of 95-decibels (SAE J1169). Under the SAE standard, a sound meter is placed 20 inches from the exhaust outlet at a 45 degree angle and the engine is revved to three quarters of maximum rated horsepower. The highest decibel reading is then recorded.

To date, with the popular support of vehicle enthusiasts and related businesses, the model has been enacted in California, Washington State and Maine. This year, the SEMA model was introduced in Virginia.

We Urge You to Call or E-mail Rep. Jones and Members of the House Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Oppose H.B. 5543

H.B. 5543 ignores the fact that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.

H.B. 5543 fails to recognize that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc.

H.B. 5543 would make it impossible for hobbyists to replace factory exhaust systems with more durable, better performing options.

The SAE J1169 test is performed in a controlled environment that limits the amount of ambient sound (e.g. from other cars) that might skew the results.

DON’T DELAY! Please contact members of the Michigan House Transportation Committee immediately by phone or e-mail to request their opposition to H.B. 5543. Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance.

House Transportation Committee Members

Philip LaJoy, Committee Chair
Phone: 517-373-2575
E-mail Address: phillajoy@house.mi.gov

David Law, Committee Vice-Chair
Phone: 517-373-1799
E-mail Address: davidlaw@house.mi.gov

Robert Gosselin
Phone: 517-373-1783
E-mail Address: robertgosselin@house.mi.gov

Tom Meyer
Phone: 517-373-0476
E-mail Address: tommeyer@house.mi.gov

Tom Casperson
Phone: 517-373-0156
E-mail Address: tomcasperson@house.mi.gov

Neal Nitz
Phone: 517-373-1796
E-mail Address: nealnitz@house.mi.gov

Lorence Wenke
Phone: 517-373-1787
E-mail Address: lorencewenke@house.mi.gov

Tim Moore
Phone: 517-373-8962
E-mail Address: timmoore@house.mi.gov

Phil Pavlov
Phone: 517-373-1790
E-mail Address: phillippavlov@house.mi.gov

Tom Pearce
Phone: 517-373-0218
E-mail Address: tompearce@house.mi.gov

Glenn Anderson
Phone: 517-373-2576
E-mail Address: glennanderson@house.mi.gov

Pam Byrnes
Phone: 517-373-0828
E-mail Address: pambyrnes@house.mi.gov

Michael Murphy
Phone: 517-373-0826
E-mail Address: michaelcmurphy@house.mi.gov

Kathleen Law
Phone: 517-373-0855
E-mail Address: kathleenlaw@house.mi.gov

Morris Hood III
Phone: 517-373-3815
E-mail Address: morrishood3rd@house.mi.gov

John Gleason
Phone: 517-373-7557
E-mail Address: johngleason@house.mi.gov

Gabe Leland
Phone: 517-373-6990
E-mail Address: gabeleland@house.mi.gov

Go here as well http://www.petitiononline.com/stop5543/petition.html
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Here's a link to the actual Bill. It appears they are still editing, and notice, that motorcycles are excluded. Hell, those damn Harley's are louder than our cars! I hate those things.. Its annnoying noise and doesn't even sound good

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docum...06-hIB-5543.htm

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1990 W350 LE 4x4 std cab auto Project Restoration
2001 2500 4x4 3rd gen head, Twin Turbo, DTT trans, Monster pump
2006 2500 4x4 Smarty JR, H2's B&W, AFE stage 1, 5" FBD exhaust

b.lee · 01-28-2007, 04:13 PM

right on
this is nice to know about, everyone should send e-mails no matter what state your from. this bill is nuts.

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96 CTD 2500 4x4, Auto, 392k Miles, 4" Exhaust, #10 Plate, 3KGSK, 36psi, Mag-Hytec DD Trans Pan, Isspro gauges, Prime-Loc, Amsoil 4510, KDP Tab'd, 265 BFG on 08 CTD wheels.
98 Camaro Z28 LS1 Auto, Shift Kit, 3.73, EFI Live'd, SLP CAI, Vette wheels

NukleusX · 01-28-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.lee

everyone should send e-mails no matter what state your from. this bill is nuts.

Are you sure that will work? I will be more than likely to help if them MI law people listen to us CA folk

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Puddlestomper · 01-28-2007, 04:50 PM

Well, you don't have to tell them what state you are from. Just send the message, and let them know.

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**wtfd6** · 01-28-2007, 10:49 PM

that is crap!

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***BBRam*** · 01-29-2007, 02:19 PM

Well that's not good to hear.:fist:

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Evil Twin · 01-29-2007, 03:12 PM

80db at 50'....i don't think anyone with a diesel would have anything to worry about

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***BBRam*** · 01-29-2007, 07:10 PM

''To ban vehicle's equipped with replacement exhaust system's that differ from the design specification's of the original muffler'' That's the part that's got me.

__________________
03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

CTD610 · 01-29-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBRam

''To ban vehicle's equipped with replacement exhaust system's that differ from the design specification's of the original muffler'' That's the part that's got me.

Probably say bye-bye to stacks...........

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***BBRam*** · 01-30-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD610

Probably say bye-bye to stacks...........

SAY IT AINT SO...:fist:

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03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

**IC-Smoke** · 01-30-2007, 11:19 PM

this post is almost a year old, so far no update or new news so maybe we are in the clear?? I just hope we dont go to emissions testing and have to have a permit tag.

post was on 02/06/2006

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1990 W350 LE 4x4 std cab auto Project Restoration
2001 2500 4x4 3rd gen head, Twin Turbo, DTT trans, Monster pump
2006 2500 4x4 Smarty JR, H2's B&W, AFE stage 1, 5" FBD exhaust

02-06-2006, 09:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
IC-Smoke MI Chapter President Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: HUDSON, MI Posts: 3,712 IC-Smoke's Truck Pics	Urgent MICHIGAN Legislative Alert It appears this topic is back in the legislature. URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT Michigan Bill Would Ban Most Aftermarket Exhaust Systems A bill (H.B. 5543) to ban vehicles equipped with replacement exhaust systems that differ from the design specifications of the original muffler has been introduced in Michigan by Rep. Rick Jones (rickjones@house.mi.gov). H.B. 5543 would also prohibit the sale and use of exhaust systems that exceed an 80-decibel limit at a distance of 50 feet. The bill has been referred to the Michigan House Transportation Committee for consideration. In some states, noise limits for modified exhaust systems are established by a SEMA model bill and applicable to an easy to administer test standard. The SEMA model provides for the testing of vehicle exhaust noise to a standard adopted by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) with an established noise limit of 95-decibels (SAE J1169). Under the SAE standard, a sound meter is placed 20 inches from the exhaust outlet at a 45 degree angle and the engine is revved to three quarters of maximum rated horsepower. The highest decibel reading is then recorded. To date, with the popular support of vehicle enthusiasts and related businesses, the model has been enacted in California, Washington State and Maine. This year, the SEMA model was introduced in Virginia. We Urge You to Call or E-mail Rep. Jones and Members of the House Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Oppose H.B. 5543 H.B. 5543 ignores the fact that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions. H.B. 5543 fails to recognize that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc. H.B. 5543 would make it impossible for hobbyists to replace factory exhaust systems with more durable, better performing options. The SAE J1169 test is performed in a controlled environment that limits the amount of ambient sound (e.g. from other cars) that might skew the results. DON’T DELAY! Please contact members of the Michigan House Transportation Committee immediately by phone or e-mail to request their opposition to H.B. 5543. Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance. House Transportation Committee Members Philip LaJoy, Committee Chair Phone: 517-373-2575 E-mail Address: phillajoy@house.mi.gov David Law, Committee Vice-Chair Phone: 517-373-1799 E-mail Address: davidlaw@house.mi.gov Robert Gosselin Phone: 517-373-1783 E-mail Address: robertgosselin@house.mi.gov Tom Meyer Phone: 517-373-0476 E-mail Address: tommeyer@house.mi.gov Tom Casperson Phone: 517-373-0156 E-mail Address: tomcasperson@house.mi.gov Neal Nitz Phone: 517-373-1796 E-mail Address: nealnitz@house.mi.gov Lorence Wenke Phone: 517-373-1787 E-mail Address: lorencewenke@house.mi.gov Tim Moore Phone: 517-373-8962 E-mail Address: timmoore@house.mi.gov Phil Pavlov Phone: 517-373-1790 E-mail Address: phillippavlov@house.mi.gov Tom Pearce Phone: 517-373-0218 E-mail Address: tompearce@house.mi.gov Glenn Anderson Phone: 517-373-2576 E-mail Address: glennanderson@house.mi.gov Pam Byrnes Phone: 517-373-0828 E-mail Address: pambyrnes@house.mi.gov Michael Murphy Phone: 517-373-0826 E-mail Address: michaelcmurphy@house.mi.gov Kathleen Law Phone: 517-373-0855 E-mail Address: kathleenlaw@house.mi.gov Morris Hood III Phone: 517-373-3815 E-mail Address: morrishood3rd@house.mi.gov John Gleason Phone: 517-373-7557 E-mail Address: johngleason@house.mi.gov Gabe Leland Phone: 517-373-6990 E-mail Address: gabeleland@house.mi.gov Go here as well http://www.petitiononline.com/stop5543/petition.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a link to the actual Bill. It appears they are still editing, and notice, that motorcycles are excluded. Hell, those damn Harley's are louder than our cars! I hate those things.. Its annnoying noise and doesn't even sound good http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docum...06-hIB-5543.htm __________________ *Ian - Great Lakes Cummins Crew PRESIDENT* 1990 W350 LE 4x4 std cab auto *Project Restoration* 2001 2500 4x4 3rd gen head, Twin Turbo, DTT trans, Monster pump 2006 2500 4x4 Smarty JR, H2's B&W, AFE stage 1, 5" FBD exhaust

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01-28-2007, 04:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
b.lee Cummins Nut Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 467 b.lee's Truck Pics	right on this is nice to know about, everyone should send e-mails no matter what state your from. this bill is nuts. __________________ 96 CTD 2500 4x4, Auto, 392k Miles, 4" Exhaust, #10 Plate, 3KGSK, 36psi, Mag-Hytec DD Trans Pan, Isspro gauges, Prime-Loc, Amsoil 4510, KDP Tab'd, 265 BFG on 08 CTD wheels. 98 Camaro Z28 LS1 Auto, Shift Kit, 3.73, EFI Live'd, SLP CAI, Vette wheels

01-28-2007, 04:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Puddlestomper Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cambridge, KS Posts: 260 Puddlestomper's Truck Pics	Well, you don't have to tell them what state you are from. Just send the message, and let them know. __________________ 2006 CTD Quadcab Dually 2x4 auto NEW AND IMPROVED WITH A SMARTY!!!!

01-28-2007, 10:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
wtfd6 Coaltrain Diesel Performance Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: toledo,oh Posts: 1,963 wtfd6's Truck Pics	that is crap! __________________ 2000 Ram3500 Coaltrain Diesel Performance Mark 419-392-1678 Full line of diesel repair and performance items. Custom injectors, turbos, injection pumps, gauges and much more! coaltraindieselperformance.com Proud Member Of The Ohio Coal Rollers

01-29-2007, 02:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
*BBRam* Just Hangin Around Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chelsea MI Posts: 16,512 BBRam's Truck Pics	Well that's not good to hear.:fist: __________________ 03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

01-29-2007, 03:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Evil Twin Administrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga ont. Canada Posts: 7,368 Evil Twin's Truck Pics	80db at 50'....i don't think anyone with a diesel would have anything to worry about __________________ 2001 4X4 Q-cab Sport black, full billet DTT trans, billet F-plate Mach 7's, B1-B2 twins, Blue Chip Special X VP, Adrenaline, studded & O-ringed, BD-RAD,Flex-A-Lite electric fans, Autometer Gages, Egt, Boost,Fuel, Oil &,drive pressure, trans temp, RASP, Big line kit, Track bars 2" leveling kit, 271 T-case, DSS, 3rd gen trac bar 623 HP 1175tq with old set-up

01-29-2007, 07:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
*BBRam* Just Hangin Around Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chelsea MI Posts: 16,512 BBRam's Truck Pics	''To ban vehicle's equipped with replacement exhaust system's that differ from the design specification's of the original muffler'' That's the part that's got me. __________________ 03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

01-30-2007, 11:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
IC-Smoke MI Chapter President Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: HUDSON, MI Posts: 3,712 IC-Smoke's Truck Pics	this post is almost a year old, so far no update or new news so maybe we are in the clear?? I just hope we dont go to emissions testing and have to have a permit tag. post was on 02/06/2006 __________________ *Ian - Great Lakes Cummins Crew PRESIDENT* 1990 W350 LE 4x4 std cab auto *Project Restoration* 2001 2500 4x4 3rd gen head, Twin Turbo, DTT trans, Monster pump 2006 2500 4x4 Smarty JR, H2's B&W, AFE stage 1, 5" FBD exhaust