which is better for snow and ice?

***bdoneen*** · 10-09-2008, 10:02 PM

right now i have my little stock highway tires, last winter they weren't that great on the snow and ice. im from northwest spokane area and was curious if those would be better then 35 toyo mts? both suck or is one better then the other in the winter months?

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***bdoneen*** · 10-09-2008, 10:10 PM

bump bump bump bump

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JDiepstra · 10-09-2008, 10:13 PM

most guys who plow snow for a living will tell you that a tall, narrow tire is best for snow. I know nothing about Toyos but I run 285 70 17 BFG AT's in the winter while I plow and they do a great job. That is bigger than most guys would saw is optimal in snow.

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***bdoneen*** · 10-09-2008, 10:15 PM

my stock tires are tall and narrow but have zero traction, so u take that and compare to a 12.5 mt with lots of traction but real wide? equal trade off or....

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countrycummins99 · 10-09-2008, 10:23 PM

no being wide on snow and ice wont help you want your tire to cut through the snow and ice and make a solid footprint the wider the tire the more you will float/slide on snow on ice no tire alone is good you need studs or chains but think skinny when it comes to snow not fat p.s hummer tires suck in the snow my 285/75 do way better that them

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***bdoneen*** · 10-09-2008, 10:25 PM

well i had em last year and wasn't impressed, the narrow ones i mean. and i want the 35s and don't really want to spend money on snow tires or studs. guess ill flip the coin

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JDiepstra · 10-09-2008, 10:28 PM

Are those your only two options? Is that truck 2wd or 4wd? Are the tires mounted on different rims? If yes, try the big ones and see how you like it! Apparently you already know you don't like the stock ones! Throw some sand bags in the back. Or a fat chick.

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***bdoneen*** · 10-09-2008, 10:30 PM

4x4, gonna put em on the my stock rims, 17s.

well my buddy has the same truck and he ran his into a tree last year with the 35s so hes trying to tell me hell no, but....he was showing off with the date of the week and i dont think i should listen. been driving in the stuff all my life.

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TJT-Rav · 10-09-2008, 10:39 PM

Sounds like both sets are equally crappy in the winter. Pick the ones with the most siping and cross your fingers, or watch the local classifieds for a better set of tires.

Last edited by TJT-Rav : 10-09-2008 at 10:43 PM.

jdg · 10-09-2008, 10:41 PM

If you want traction in anything but sand go narow if you want looks and floatation in sand go wide. Any tire with more agressive tread will be better than stock highway tread tho. Just kinda depends on what you are after.

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countrycummins99 · 10-09-2008, 10:46 PM

just a warning bigger tires will float on snow this advice is coming from a guy who lives in north east pa and is also a ski instructor i live in the snow in the winter and wider is not better when it comes to snow and trucks it makes you float across the surface of snow instead of sinking down and bitting the snow i will show you an example of what a little snow and big tires cause especially if you drive a stick

that was my jeep wrangler it was on 33/12.50 pro comp mud terrains i slid on that snow like a penguin on ice and i was only doing about 25mph main problem was those big azz tires mad me float on the snow instead of biting in and maintaining traction so im telling you from experience big tires and snow arent the greatest combination

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***bdoneen*** · 10-09-2008, 10:50 PM

thanks for the warning but now im really torn. even with my cummins weight compared to your jeep wouldn't make much of a difference, maybe even worse i suppose

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10-09-2008, 10:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
*bdoneen* Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 223 bdoneen's Truck Pics	which is better for snow and ice? right now i have my little stock highway tires, last winter they weren't that great on the snow and ice. im from northwest spokane area and was curious if those would be better then 35 toyo mts? both suck or is one better then the other in the winter months? __________________ 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR

10-09-2008, 10:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
countrycummins99 Cummins Nut Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: mcadoo pa Posts: 328 countrycummins99's Truck Pics	Big Tires Are A No No just a warning bigger tires will float on snow this advice is coming from a guy who lives in north east pa and is also a ski instructor i live in the snow in the winter and wider is not better when it comes to snow and trucks it makes you float across the surface of snow instead of sinking down and bitting the snow i will show you an example of what a little snow and big tires cause especially if you drive a stick that was my jeep wrangler it was on 33/12.50 pro comp mud terrains i slid on that snow like a penguin on ice and i was only doing about 25mph main problem was those big azz tires mad me float on the snow instead of biting in and maintaining traction so im telling you from experience big tires and snow arent the greatest combination __________________ 99 DODGE 24VALVE, FASS 150, EDGE COMP/SMARTY REVO STACK ,BHAF,TC LOCK SWITCH,DTT TORQUE CONVERTER, BUILT TRANS, 5"MITER CUTS, 3.55 ANTI SPIN ,SMOKE SWITCH, SILENCER RING KILLED, GAUGES (FUEL PRESSURE, TRANS TEMP, BOOST, EGT))INFAMOUS 53 BLOCK 270,339 no crack

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10-09-2008, 10:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
*bdoneen* Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 223 bdoneen's Truck Pics	bump bump bump bump __________________ 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR

10-09-2008, 10:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
JDiepstra Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MI Posts: 954 JDiepstra's Truck Pics	most guys who plow snow for a living will tell you that a tall, narrow tire is best for snow. I know nothing about Toyos but I run 285 70 17 BFG AT's in the winter while I plow and they do a great job. That is bigger than most guys would saw is optimal in snow. __________________ 2004.5, 2500, Cummins 600, 4x4, SLT, QC, SB, 48RE w/4.10's, Molten Red. Edge Juice w/ Att, MP8, Silverline 4" exhaust, AFE Blade Runner + PG7 with PSM box mod, DPP Red Cool Hose, 315 BFG A/T's on black H2's, HTS valve body + deep pan, Gauges, Train Horns for

10-09-2008, 10:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
*bdoneen* Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 223 bdoneen's Truck Pics	my stock tires are tall and narrow but have zero traction, so u take that and compare to a 12.5 mt with lots of traction but real wide? equal trade off or.... __________________ 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR

10-09-2008, 10:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
countrycummins99 Cummins Nut Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: mcadoo pa Posts: 328 countrycummins99's Truck Pics	no being wide on snow and ice wont help you want your tire to cut through the snow and ice and make a solid footprint the wider the tire the more you will float/slide on snow on ice no tire alone is good you need studs or chains but think skinny when it comes to snow not fat p.s hummer tires suck in the snow my 285/75 do way better that them __________________ 99 DODGE 24VALVE, FASS 150, EDGE COMP/SMARTY REVO STACK ,BHAF,TC LOCK SWITCH,DTT TORQUE CONVERTER, BUILT TRANS, 5"MITER CUTS, 3.55 ANTI SPIN ,SMOKE SWITCH, SILENCER RING KILLED, GAUGES (FUEL PRESSURE, TRANS TEMP, BOOST, EGT))INFAMOUS 53 BLOCK 270,339 no crack

10-09-2008, 10:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
*bdoneen* Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 223 bdoneen's Truck Pics	well i had em last year and wasn't impressed, the narrow ones i mean. and i want the 35s and don't really want to spend money on snow tires or studs. guess ill flip the coin __________________ 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR

10-09-2008, 10:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
JDiepstra Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MI Posts: 954 JDiepstra's Truck Pics	Are those your only two options? Is that truck 2wd or 4wd? Are the tires mounted on different rims? If yes, try the big ones and see how you like it! Apparently you already know you don't like the stock ones! Throw some sand bags in the back. Or a fat chick. __________________ 2004.5, 2500, Cummins 600, 4x4, SLT, QC, SB, 48RE w/4.10's, Molten Red. Edge Juice w/ Att, MP8, Silverline 4" exhaust, AFE Blade Runner + PG7 with PSM box mod, DPP Red Cool Hose, 315 BFG A/T's on black H2's, HTS valve body + deep pan, Gauges, Train Horns for

10-09-2008, 10:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
*bdoneen* Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 223 bdoneen's Truck Pics	4x4, gonna put em on the my stock rims, 17s. well my buddy has the same truck and he ran his into a tree last year with the 35s so hes trying to tell me hell no, but....he was showing off with the date of the week and i dont think i should listen. been driving in the stuff all my life. __________________ 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR

10-09-2008, 10:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
TJT-Rav Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 39 TJT-Rav's Truck Pics	Sounds like both sets are equally crappy in the winter. Pick the ones with the most siping and cross your fingers, or watch the local classifieds for a better set of tires. Last edited by TJT-Rav : 10-09-2008 at 10:43 PM.

10-09-2008, 10:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
jdg Cummins Fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 45 jdg's Truck Pics	If you want traction in anything but sand go narow if you want looks and floatation in sand go wide. Any tire with more agressive tread will be better than stock highway tread tho. Just kinda depends on what you are after. __________________ 2005 4x4 6spd. stock so far except for cat removed and a 5" exhaust . Engine has also been borred and overhauled at 60,000 prevous owner cooked it

10-09-2008, 10:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
*bdoneen* Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 223 bdoneen's Truck Pics	thanks for the warning but now im really torn. even with my cummins weight compared to your jeep wouldn't make much of a difference, maybe even worse i suppose __________________ 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR