kerosene for fuel?

silver12v · 05-08-2008, 07:28 PM

hey guys, got a guy around town who is buying kerosene instead of #2 diesel. diesel is 4.10 here and kerosene is 3.60.what do ya think. his truck is a 97 12v.

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witchdoctor · 05-08-2008, 07:35 PM

i had a friend that did that on his 92 ctd. It puked out white smoke like crazy for awhile. He didn't do it again after that.

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silver12v · 05-08-2008, 07:48 PM

he said it didn't have as much power but he was willing to sacrafice that for the savings in fuel.

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DodgeCummins98 · 05-08-2008, 07:52 PM

Kerosene has no lubricity at all.

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stark · 05-08-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DodgeCummins98

Kerosene has no lubricity at all.

its very bad for the truck it is a very dry fuel

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ykdave · 05-08-2008, 07:53 PM

not much point...

The kerosene may cost less, but it has less btu versus good ol #2. Which means its going to have less power and get crappier fuel economy.

Best off just running diesel, in the long run its not going to save much if anything to run kero

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Ops · 05-08-2008, 08:15 PM

You'll need about a 50:1 mix with two stroke or non-detergent motor oil to replace the lubricity that isn't present in kerosene. You'll lose about 15% in fuel economy.

Ops

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Key1989 · 05-08-2008, 08:22 PM

Kerosene wont harm your engine, it just may run with a little less power unless you add a small amount of oil of some sort(like Ops said). way up north kerosene is called #1 Diesel because it doesnt gel like #2 Diesel which we have down south,
That is to best of my knowledge.

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vlancaster · 05-08-2008, 08:38 PM

ran kerosene in the lawn mower couple of years ago, just one tank. it died! smoked like a freight train and had zero power after that

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clc · 05-09-2008, 05:13 AM

There is also the legal matter of road tax.

Kerosene has 135 KBTU/Gallon
#2 Diesel has 139.2 KBTU/Gallon

The reduced energy content, the reduced lubricity, and the reduced gel point are all a function of the reduced paraffin content. Kerosene for heaters probably has much of the sulfur refined out which would also reduce the lubricity.

vlancaster, Running kerosene in a gasoline engine is much different than running it in a diesel engine. The poor carburation can cause cylinder wash, the low octane equivalence can cause detonation and break things, and the lower flame constant can burn exhaust valves.

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05-08-2008, 07:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
silver12v Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: tennessee Posts: 6 silver12v's Truck Pics	kerosene for fuel? hey guys, got a guy around town who is buying kerosene instead of #2 diesel. diesel is 4.10 here and kerosene is 3.60.what do ya think. his truck is a 97 12v. __________________ 1998 12v 5spd quad cab with aem intake, flopro 4" exhaust,#10 fuel plate slid foreward,afc housing full foreward, starwheel maxed out,& guages.

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05-08-2008, 07:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
witchdoctor Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: alvin, tx Posts: 61 witchdoctor's Truck Pics	i had a friend that did that on his 92 ctd. It puked out white smoke like crazy for awhile. He didn't do it again after that. __________________ 04 quad cab 3/4 ton 2 wheel drive long bed. 6 spd tranny with a straight pipe.

05-08-2008, 07:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
silver12v Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: tennessee Posts: 6 silver12v's Truck Pics	he said it didn't have as much power but he was willing to sacrafice that for the savings in fuel. __________________ 1998 12v 5spd quad cab with aem intake, flopro 4" exhaust,#10 fuel plate slid foreward,afc housing full foreward, starwheel maxed out,& guages.

05-08-2008, 07:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
DodgeCummins98 Diesel Freak Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: WV Posts: 936 DodgeCummins98's Truck Pics	Kerosene has no lubricity at all. __________________ 98.5 2500 4x4, Reg cab, LWB, 6" GrandRock TO's, silencer ring MIA, smoke switch, Juice w/ Attitude, FASS 150/150, new vp44, AUTOMATIC SOLD - Manual install in the works 07 3500 SLT 6.7L 6 Spd Manual 4x4 Quad Cab Dually, Inferno red, vinyl, gooseneck -Stock

05-08-2008, 07:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
ykdave Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 226 ykdave's Truck Pics	not much point... The kerosene may cost less, but it has less btu versus good ol #2. Which means its going to have less power and get crappier fuel economy. Best off just running diesel, in the long run its not going to save much if anything to run kero __________________ 97 Ram 2500 5.9ctd 5spd nv4500 4x4 np241 Starwheel cranked, home made 100 plate, autometer pyro and boost gauges, Single 4" stack, tons more to come

05-08-2008, 08:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ops Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Middle of PA Posts: 324 Ops's Truck Pics	You'll need about a 50:1 mix with two stroke or non-detergent motor oil to replace the lubricity that isn't present in kerosene. You'll lose about 15% in fuel economy. Ops __________________ 01 QC, tow package, 4X4, 33" BFG's, Edge EZ, 4:10s with LS, 5" straight pipe. Updated May 07: Holley Blue on the frame rail, ISSPRO fuel pressure guage. Modified heachache rack, brush guard, 100w driving lights.

05-08-2008, 08:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Key1989 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 22 Key1989's Truck Pics	Kerosene wont harm your engine, it just may run with a little less power unless you add a small amount of oil of some sort(like Ops said). way up north kerosene is called #1 Diesel because it doesnt gel like #2 Diesel which we have down south, That is to best of my knowledge. __________________ 93' Dodge W-250 Ext. Cab Black and Silver, Modifications improve with income...

05-08-2008, 08:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
vlancaster Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: b-town, ark Posts: 60 vlancaster's Truck Pics	ran kerosene in the lawn mower couple of years ago, just one tank. it died! smoked like a freight train and had zero power after that __________________ 04.5 HO edge jammer turbo, magnasuck muffler, homemade 4" intake w/ amsoil filter. PPE programemr

05-09-2008, 05:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
clc Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 46 clc's Truck Pics	There is also the legal matter of road tax. Kerosene has 135 KBTU/Gallon #2 Diesel has 139.2 KBTU/Gallon The reduced energy content, the reduced lubricity, and the reduced gel point are all a function of the reduced paraffin content. Kerosene for heaters probably has much of the sulfur refined out which would also reduce the lubricity. vlancaster, Running kerosene in a gasoline engine is much different than running it in a diesel engine. The poor carburation can cause cylinder wash, the low octane equivalence can cause detonation and break things, and the lower flame constant can burn exhaust valves. __________________ '96 3500 4WD dually club cab, 47RE, 3.55, gauges, #6 plate, 5", FASS, DSS, Line-X '98.5 2500 2WD quad cab, SB, 5-spd, 3.55 Dana 80 LS, gauges, Superchips, 4", FASS, DSS, B&W turnover ball, Alcoa wheels, Line-X Last edited by clc : 05-09-2008 at 05:16 AM.