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Old 05-17-2010, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cummins Turbo Diesel Engine Swap on Durango

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I'm new to this forum and I've been contemplating fully swapping out my 4.7L gasoline guzzling Magnum engine for a turbo diesel Cummins which will not only provide more HP but WAY better MPGs and longevity.

I'm tired of the brainwashing that oil companies have been doing to me and others and I'd love to be able to swap out my Magnum engine for a diesel instead.

The main concerns are the creature comforts such as A/C, power steering, etc. I understand that all that comes on stock vehicles that already have a Cummins engine inside, but my worry is transferring it over to my 2006 Durango.

Please don't flame me as I'm completely a newbie when it comes to diesel engines and swapping one out over a gasoline powered engine.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like a cool swap. but i dont think it will fit.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh wow, that would be awesome w/a QSB4.5! Or just an older{and cheaper} 3.9 4BT. Wow, you got me to day dreaming now. I do think the 6 would be too long though and the lil 4 would power that thing great. I know a guy who has a late 80's K5 Blazer 4x4 w/36's and gets aver 20mpg w/a 4BT.



Your Durango's a/c compressor might work w/the Cummins, depends on what you could come up for bracketry and the p/s pump would probably be different as you have the option to run a gear driven one from the backside of the front cover or maybe you could even use your Durangos and again that would be about the bracketry you can come up with, or build.


Good luck with that one, That would be pretty cool but be prepared to go without that vehicle for a while, I imagina it would take a while. And also I dont know nothin about your crossmember modifications if any that would be required of tranny adaptors, etc.
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A 4bt will fit in a dakota so it would fit in a durango. There is a guy with a 4b dak with a solid axle swap think he is running an auto behind it.
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there is a durango out there with a 6b. its on you tube i believe.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I know there's a guy up around my area with one....lifted with some combine tires on it I believe....I talked to him at MPM's shop one day and it came up and I know he said the only way to do it was to cut and modify the firewall
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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VERY VERY NICE!!!

Now we gotta see that puppy in my 2nd Gen!

The guy even posted that he had to do a little cutting into the dash but not much! Ohhhhh yeah baby!

Wondering a couple of things.

1. Can I keep my current 4x4 setup or do I have to switch to the 2wd?
2. How to get the exhaust system to sound like a gasoline powered rather than the typical diesel sound? I'd love to fake people out left and right having easily a 400-500+HP twin turbo Cummins engine and have it sound like a 5.7L Hemi, then rev me out only to have me leave most people in the dust once my foot pounds to the ground!!!

Man, just saw a 3.0L CRD diesel engine that could work without cutting into the vehicle since it fits nicely into a 2007 or so Jeep Grand Cherokee!

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His was 4x4....no reason yours couldn't be And I'm pretty sure there's no way around that cummins purr
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His was 4x4....no reason yours couldn't be And I'm pretty sure there's no way around that cummins purr
I contacted a guy, he said he wouldn't be interested in making an adapter plate to the stock Durango tranny. Would the Ram tranny even fit without some serious modifications?

I wonder why he said no and that I'd be better off sticking with the tranny that comes with the Cummins?
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If I was you (which I know I'm not), I'd stick with the 4bt swap. There are a couple websites with much info on these from transmissions that work, to how someone made the stock vehicle accesories work with the swap.

Now, keep in mind that your durango is less than a half ton and therefore the torque of a diesel is going to be really hard on the driveline without some upgrades. Also, the front will need some better suspension even with the 4bt I believe due to the motor being heavier.

Your stock transmission won't hold up. I'd check and see what others are using. If you don't have super deep pockets for the fab work on the chassis, I'd just do the 4bt. Still a great motor and makes great power and possibly better mpg. I just don't like the whole cutting up the firewall thing. Plus, if they have to do that, you can kiss the a/c goodbye more than likely.
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If I was you (which I know I'm not), I'd stick with the 4bt swap. There are a couple websites with much info on these from transmissions that work, to how someone made the stock vehicle accesories work with the swap.

Now, keep in mind that your durango is less than a half ton and therefore the torque of a diesel is going to be really hard on the driveline without some upgrades. Also, the front will need some better suspension even with the 4bt I believe due to the motor being heavier.

Your stock transmission won't hold up. I'd check and see what others are using. If you don't have super deep pockets for the fab work on the chassis, I'd just do the 4bt. Still a great motor and makes great power and possibly better mpg. I just don't like the whole cutting up the firewall thing. Plus, if they have to do that, you can kiss the a/c goodbye more than likely.
Very good information! Since this is our family vehicle, I definitely don't want to lose A/C. Especially here in Hawaii! I'll check with the 4BT guys and see what they have done.

My main concern was just going with a diesel motor so I can use homebrew biodiesel. Having twin turbo would be nice too
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Just curious, does anyone know how Mercedes got the 3.0L CRD Diesel engine to be so quiet? It's clear it's possible.

I wouldn't mind using the CRD but the only thing is that I've heard that because of the type of engine it is, it probably won't like using WVO. I've read some using 50/50 blend of biodiesel without any problems on their CRD Jeep Cherokee.

I guess my ulitmate goal is to be free from the gas industry and killing the planet any faster than it already is being choked to death.
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