Dodge Cummins or Ford Powerstroke

07-12-2007, 06:27 PM

Why should I buy a Dodge Cummins instead of the Ford Powerstroke. I am going to buy a diesel truck in the near future. I am wondering if this forum is nearly as busy as FTE. I have a Chevy daily driver and am totally dissappointed in the truck and the Chevy forum I signed up with. I hear from Ford guys that the Cummins diesel is the best of the big 3, but it comes wrapped in a Dodge truck. The only Dodge I ever had was an 87 D150 with slant 6 and 4 sd OD.

***Ruckuz*** · 07-12-2007, 06:31 PM

Cummins. inline 6, less moving parts, great reputation for reliability, and power. Actually classified as a light medium duty engine, easy to get lots of power,

powerstruggle..... where do i begin. V8, sounds like crap, much harder to pull big power out of. Blow parts like crazy.

Tell us what years you are looking at for dodges, and i can give you some specific details, as well as problems to look for.

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**BossHawg600** · 07-12-2007, 06:37 PM

I have dirive both and just the get up and go of a Cummins is worth the price. A for may say they have more HP and TQ but look were it lands in the RPM range. Up in 2500 to 3500 RPM! What good does that do pulling a trailer? I will admit the interior of a Ford does fit me a bit better but I still like the interior of all the dodges. Plus a CTD gets better gas mileage, cant beat that!

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TrueValue Truck · 07-12-2007, 06:37 PM

The Ford guys are right on the Cummins being the best of the three engines. As far as the rest of the truck , I was told when I bought my first one that the tranny would puke on me....it never did , but I only ran it up to 40k and traded last June on this one. I have 25k on this truck with no tranny issues. Both trucks tow.....alot....the 04 had the Bully Dog pup programmer , this one has the Quad race box.

There are some things that I like above the Dodge , like the interior of the Ford , but as far as exterior , I think the Dodge looks awesome....the Fords not to bad on looks.....but the Chevy GMC stuff is just to "boxy" looking for me.

The only other weak link I can think of in the Dodge is the LP if you start adding fueling mods.The carter LP seems to have a little trouble feeding the rail if you add much fueling.

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07-12-2007, 09:24 PM

Chevrolet is not in the equation. The Duramax might be good, but the truck is buttugly. Did I mention the Chevy forum - stinks. This one has given me several posts already. I have been on the Ford Truck Enthusiast (fordtrucks.com) for years with my old trucks. That forum will post you to death. I've been asking about the differences of the 7.3 and 6.0s and I have a mailbox full. I never get more than 2 posts on the Chevy forum with little help in them. That makes a big difference.

How many generations do the Cummins have?

What is an LP? (New to the diesel world).

TrueValue Truck · 07-12-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiftyfourf100

Chevrolet is not in the equation. The Duramax might be good, but the truck is buttugly. Did I mention the Chevy forum - stinks. This one has given me several posts already. I have been on the Ford Truck Enthusiast (fordtrucks.com) for years with my old trucks. That forum will post you to death. I've been asking about the differences of the 7.3 and 6.0s and I have a mailbox full. I never get more than 2 posts on the Chevy forum with little help in them. That makes a big difference.

How many generations do the Cummins have?

What is an LP? (New to the diesel world).

The LP is the fuel lift pump. From 05 to current , they are mounted in the fuel tank. Ther are 3 generations of the Cummins....ummm mabe four now with the 6.7.....not sure. Look on the main board hear and you'll see the boards broken down by gen.'s. I know nothing about the 1st and second gen's , and I'm still learning on the thirds.

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rufushusky · 07-12-2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiftyfourf100

Why should I buy a Dodge Cummins instead of the Ford Powerstroke. I am going to buy a diesel truck in the near future. I am wondering if this forum is nearly as busy as FTE. I have a Chevy daily driver and am totally dissappointed in the truck and the Chevy forum I signed up with. I hear from Ford guys that the Cummins diesel is the best of the big 3, but it comes wrapped in a Dodge truck. The only Dodge I ever had was an 87 D150 with slant 6 and 4 sd OD.

Well we have a 7.3 powerstroke and a 5.9 Cummins sitting in my drive way. The 7.3 powerstroke, which ran from 1994.5-2003, is a very reliable and solid engine. However stock for stock the 7.3 can not hold a candle to my newer 5.9, my Cummins gets better fuel economy i get about 18.5 mpg to the heavier Ford's 16.2mpg. Either one is not bad for over three tons. As far as a daily driver my dodge is better, my dad's ford does a little better doing work such as plowing towing etc. Personally, I think a Chevy with a Dmax and allison would be the best daily driver, with the smoother ride and the most fuel efficient engine, based on reputation.

Bottom line you don't hear about people swapping powerstrokes into Dodges but on the other hand:

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Last edited by Ruckuz : 08-21-2007 at 11:49 PM.

wewille · 07-12-2007, 09:50 PM

I got one of each, love em both, they both pull great, no matter what anybody says. If you go ford watch out for the 03 and 04 6.0 they had hit or miss problems, by 05 and later the 6.0 was great. The 7.3 has always been rock solid. The cummins is easier to make big power because ford has hydraulic operated injectors witch will require more money to go fast. I think it is personal preferance, either way you will be happy.

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02_laramie · 07-12-2007, 10:23 PM

The cummins engine is built tougher it uses alot of the technolgy that they use for their big diesels. 1. cummins engines use grid heaters instead of glow plugs and therefore when its 50 degrees outside u dont have to crank on your truck for an hour 2. ease of under the hood access minor stuff on a powerstroke can be a nightmare they do all they can to cram that big pile of crap under the hood and u cant hardly get to anything on a powerstroke, look under the hood of a dodge and it looks like an 81 chevy 350 wide open bay, where as a powerstroke looks like the hood under a mini van u cant have easy access to anything. 3. you can get alot more power out of a cummins peformance wise... and lastly international uses cats cummins and detroits in semi's because well they make junk

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07-12-2007, 10:45 PM

Here's what I thought:

Ford - International diesel
Dodge - Cummins (of course)
Chevrolet - Isuzu Diesel

02_laramie · 07-12-2007, 10:48 PM

that is correct

gm uses iszu and before the duramx used detroit diesels a sub company gm owns.

ford uses navistar(crapistar) aka international

and dodge uses cummins, used in everything from pickups to semis to house boats to trains to generators

in the house

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Last edited by Ruckuz : 08-21-2007 at 11:51 PM.

rufushusky · 07-12-2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiftyfourf100

Here's what I thought:

Ford - International diesel
Dodge - Cummins (of course)
Chevrolet - Isuzu Diesel

Yeah that is right, in larger trucks f650 and up ford offers a Cummins motor...along with a Cat, C7 I think. None of the "big" three make their own diesel. Chevy is the closest owning a significant chunk of the DMAX engine project made in joint venture with Isuzu, who I think they either own a significant part, if not all of.

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07-12-2007, 06:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Fiftyfourf100 Posts: n/a	Dodge Cummins or Ford Powerstroke Why should I buy a Dodge Cummins instead of the Ford Powerstroke. I am going to buy a diesel truck in the near future. I am wondering if this forum is nearly as busy as FTE. I have a Chevy daily driver and am totally dissappointed in the truck and the Chevy forum I signed up with. I hear from Ford guys that the Cummins diesel is the best of the big 3, but it comes wrapped in a Dodge truck. The only Dodge I ever had was an 87 D150 with slant 6 and 4 sd OD.

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07-12-2007, 06:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
*Ruckuz* Ontario Chapter VP Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newmarket, Ontario Posts: 1,251 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Ruckuz's Truck Pics	Cummins. inline 6, less moving parts, great reputation for reliability, and power. Actually classified as a light medium duty engine, easy to get lots of power, powerstruggle..... where do i begin. V8, sounds like crap, much harder to pull big power out of. Blow parts like crazy. Tell us what years you are looking at for dodges, and i can give you some specific details, as well as problems to look for. __________________ 1996 2500 4X4 Auto CC LB Banks Power Pack, Boost, Pyro & Oil Temp, 3k GSK, BHAF, #0 Plate Full Forward, Low Stall Triple Disc TC, TST Valve Body, Mystery Switch, Rancho RS9000's, MTX MZS1204'2/Alpine MRD M501, Viper Alarm & Remote Start, Dual 5" Grand Rock Turnouts, Rickson 19.5"s

07-12-2007, 06:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
BossHawg600 THE Hood Stack Guy! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Monticello,In Posts: 2,338 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts BossHawg600's Truck Pics	I have dirive both and just the get up and go of a Cummins is worth the price. A for may say they have more HP and TQ but look were it lands in the RPM range. Up in 2500 to 3500 RPM! What good does that do pulling a trailer? I will admit the interior of a Ford does fit me a bit better but I still like the interior of all the dodges. Plus a CTD gets better gas mileage, cant beat that! __________________ Jeff Faker 2006 Mega Cab, 37" KM2's, Twin Turbos, 6sp......stock Injectors, CP3, TST Turned Off Dont Make Diesel the New Rice!!!

07-12-2007, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
TrueValue Truck Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,191 Thanks: 31 Thanked 38 Times in 24 Posts TrueValue Truck's Truck Pics	The Ford guys are right on the Cummins being the best of the three engines. As far as the rest of the truck , I was told when I bought my first one that the tranny would puke on me....it never did , but I only ran it up to 40k and traded last June on this one. I have 25k on this truck with no tranny issues. Both trucks tow.....alot....the 04 had the Bully Dog pup programmer , this one has the Quad race box. There are some things that I like above the Dodge , like the interior of the Ford , but as far as exterior , I think the Dodge looks awesome....the Fords not to bad on looks.....but the Chevy GMC stuff is just to "boxy" looking for me. The only other weak link I can think of in the Dodge is the LP if you start adding fueling mods.The carter LP seems to have a little trouble feeding the rail if you add much fueling. __________________ 06 3500 SRW Mega Limo ,Smarty REVO TNT,Quad Commander,CFM Intake,Quad Monster Air COI,AFE Torque tube,II Silver 62/74/14,FASS 150 HPFP ,Straight Piped,BD Flex Plate,Goerend Triple Disc Converter and VB.Billet Input,Banks Power Brake with Smart lock Ohio Coal Rollers *Cumminsforum.com* "The dogs hunger for the flesh of our enemies" Last edited by TrueValue Truck : 07-12-2007 at 09:36 PM.

07-12-2007, 09:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fiftyfourf100 Posts: n/a	Chevrolet is not in the equation. The Duramax might be good, but the truck is buttugly. Did I mention the Chevy forum - stinks. This one has given me several posts already. I have been on the Ford Truck Enthusiast (fordtrucks.com) for years with my old trucks. That forum will post you to death. I've been asking about the differences of the 7.3 and 6.0s and I have a mailbox full. I never get more than 2 posts on the Chevy forum with little help in them. That makes a big difference. How many generations do the Cummins have? What is an LP? (New to the diesel world).

07-12-2007, 09:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
wewille Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts wewille's Truck Pics	I got one of each, love em both, they both pull great, no matter what anybody says. If you go ford watch out for the 03 and 04 6.0 they had hit or miss problems, by 05 and later the 6.0 was great. The 7.3 has always been rock solid. The cummins is easier to make big power because ford has hydraulic operated injectors witch will require more money to go fast. I think it is personal preferance, either way you will be happy. __________________ 2005 Ford F-250 Powerstroke. 1999 2500 extended cab short bed, edge ez, staight piped, silencer ring removed, walbro fuel pump, Diprocol fuel, boost, and pyro. gooseneck, 15% tint, transgo kit, a new western mvp v plow on order!!! and a 53 block

07-12-2007, 10:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
02_laramie Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: new mexico Posts: 120 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts 02_laramie's Truck Pics	The cummins engine is built tougher it uses alot of the technolgy that they use for their big diesels. 1. cummins engines use grid heaters instead of glow plugs and therefore when its 50 degrees outside u dont have to crank on your truck for an hour 2. ease of under the hood access minor stuff on a powerstroke can be a nightmare they do all they can to cram that big pile of crap under the hood and u cant hardly get to anything on a powerstroke, look under the hood of a dodge and it looks like an 81 chevy 350 wide open bay, where as a powerstroke looks like the hood under a mini van u cant have easy access to anything. 3. you can get alot more power out of a cummins peformance wise... and lastly international uses cats cummins and detroits in semi's because well they make junk __________________ 02 2500 4x4 Laramie pkg. mbrp 4 inch stainless turbo back exhaust. Edge juice with attitude. K&N cold air. Fuel Boss mechanical fuel pump.

07-12-2007, 10:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Fiftyfourf100 Posts: n/a	Here's what I thought: Ford - International diesel Dodge - Cummins (of course) Chevrolet - Isuzu Diesel

07-12-2007, 10:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
02_laramie Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: new mexico Posts: 120 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts 02_laramie's Truck Pics	that is correct gm uses iszu and before the duramx used detroit diesels a sub company gm owns. ford uses navistar(crapistar) aka international and dodge uses cummins, used in everything from pickups to semis to house boats to trains to generators in the house __________________ 02 2500 4x4 Laramie pkg. mbrp 4 inch stainless turbo back exhaust. Edge juice with attitude. K&N cold air. Fuel Boss mechanical fuel pump. Last edited by Ruckuz : 08-21-2007 at 11:51 PM.