Dodge Cummins or Ford Powerstroke

[Smourj21]

we have all 6.0 Strokes at work they are 3 years old all 4 have been in the shop blowin oil pumps apart. we have had one new motor replaced at 30,000. another truck cant get over 40, replaced injectors 3 times in last 2 weeks still doesnt do over 40. They dont put a V8 in tractors for a reason. Strokes are the worst of the 3 id get a d-max over a stroke any day but cummins is far superior

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[danecoast]

Powerhoax is soft like that blouse up in Bloomingdales......

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[Chopperhead]

diehard GM fan here but I don't know what the hell the folks in their design depatment are thinking latley.

the new trucks are butt ugly, their way to low and the huge chunk of plastic on the front practically scapes the ground.

plus for whatever reason they discontinued the manual tranny so it's auto's only now and the suspension I dont even know where to start, IFS on a 1ton? what the hell are they thinking. Chevys have become the yuppie soccer mom truck of the year. can't 4x4 worth a damn, way to much plush luxery crap, ugly bodystyle, no manual, everythings all electronic controled etc etc Chevy diesels for the longest time where terrible but the trucks themselves were great, they finally bring a real deisel (arguably the best available) and they stick it in a truck thats just dissapointing.

with the dodge you can still get a real truck if you want one. solid axles, maunal tranny, I think you can still get stick shifted transfer cases as well,good looks etc etc. when you add the cummins into the equation there simply is NOTHING that even comes close the cummins/dodge.

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Last edited by Chopperhead : 02-16-2008 at 12:15 AM.

[Burgundy Bomber]

D-Max's are extremely tough!!! I saw one bone stock "AUTO" pull 84k up a grade and down the road a mile, never spun a tire, never strained, It cruises at 70 with 20k on a cattle trailor and you can't even tell it's there!
I love my truck but d-max's are catching up fast if they haven't already
as far as the options (masculine manual 4x4 shifter) why would I want a bare bones rattler shell when you could order luxury and workability? if it wasn't for the Cummins I would have never owned a Dodge...

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[Chopperhead]

Originally Posted by Burgundy Bomber

as far as the options (masculine manual 4x4 shifter) why would I want a bare bones rattler shell when you could order luxury and workability? if it wasn't for the Cummins I would have never owned a Dodge...

personal prefrence I guess but I feel the manual shifter is more reliable and consistant, pplus it "feels" better to me.

I do alot of 4x4ing and those electronic/vacum actuated 4wd setups just dont cut it. Ive seen them fail multiple times in all diffrent types of vehciles, and short of the Transfer case breaking there's virtually no way your manualy controled setup can fail, it's just a stick basically.

all the elctronic crap you put into a truck is there to make it look nicer or be easier/more comfortable to drive they dont do it for strength or reliablity. the simpler the setup the less there is that can go wrong. when your 100miles in the bush upto your knees in mudd is not the time to have worry about whether your 4x4 is gonna engage or not.

but thats just me.

Kyle.

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[breadfather]

Wow! Let me just say do not by a ford. I have alot of friends who drive ford service trucks with various equipment rental companies. They all tell me that about every 20000 miles or sooner the injectors go out. Not to mention the gas milage is terrible in the powerstrokes. If the ford engine was as good as they claim it be, then why would they change the design of it so many times in the last 10 years.

Now I am not just saying all of this because I love my dodge and will never buy anything else. I used to work at a performance shop that was dedicated to the powerstroke. I was convinced after a couple of months at this shop that the powerstroke was the best there was. Boy was I wrong. Trust me when I say that they earned there nick name of the powerchoke.

With that being said I will addmit that the ford interior is better then the dodge. However I think that it is not worth the extra money it costs to buy a ford.

[breadfather]

Wow! Let me just say do not buy a ford. I have alot of friends who drive ford service trucks with various equipment rental companies. They all tell me that about every 20000 miles or sooner the injectors go out. Not to mention the gas milage is terrible in the powerstrokes. If the ford engine was as good as they claim it be, then why would they change the design of it so many times in the last 10 years.

Now I am not just saying all of this because I love my dodge and will never buy anything else. I used to work at a performance shop that was dedicated to the powerstroke. I was convinced after a couple of months at this shop that the powerstroke was the best there was. Boy was I wrong. Trust me when I say that they earned there nick name of the powerchoke.

With that being said I will addmit that the ford interior is better then the dodge. However I think that it is not worth the extra money it costs to buy a ford.

[rufushusky]

Originally Posted by breadfather

If the ford engine was as good as they claim it be, then why would they change the design of it so many times in the last 10 years.

The 7.3 and 6.0 both had to be ditched due to stricter emissions standards.

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[plow king]

Originally Posted by Burgundy Bomber

D-Max's are extremely tough!!! ...

The second newer Chevy I've owned is sitting in my back yard, broke down again. The first one, 2001 Silverado 2500HD, the trasfer-case blew up, the rear-end made a terrible noise, and the tranny slipped. I traded it for the one that's broke down now, 2004 Express van, 3500.

Originally Posted by Burgundy Bomber

Isaw one bone stock "AUTO" pull 84k up a grade and down the road a mile, never spun a tire, never strained, It cruises at 70 with 20k on a cattle trailor and you can't even tell it's there!...

I never would even dream of putting a trailer behind either one of these so-called 1-tons. Wouldn't dream of it!!
And, I've towed a 14x65 single-wide mobile home with my Dodge. Even took it baja-ing through the trees (putting it where they wanted it). Didn't even flinch.

Originally Posted by Burgundy Bomber

I love my truck but d-max's are catching up fast if they haven't already
as far as the options (masculine manual 4x4 shifter) why would I want a bare bones rattler shell when you could order luxury and workability? if it wasn't for the Cummins I would have never owned a Dodge...

I have to agree there!. I really don't care much for the Dodge truck itself. It's not very comfortable, the dash isn't very appealing, and many other little details that would fill up a page.
But, with the drivetrain this truck has, it continues to impress me. This truck rocks!! It has done things for me that are just incredible.
I used to be a Chevy fan, but now they are totaly disappointing.
Oh, and by the way, I would never buy a Ford. It's just out of the question for me.

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[plow king]

Originally Posted by rufushusky

The 7.3 and 6.0 both had to be ditched due to stricter emissions standards.

Wasn't it the 6.0 that you have to remove the whole cab just to get to the turbo. Talk about a repair bill!!!

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[rufushusky]

Originally Posted by plow king

Wasn't it the 6.0 that you have to remove the whole cab just to get to the turbo. Talk about a repair bill!!!

I think that is 6.4. But I think you need to remove the body to do the head studs...no fun.

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[plow king]

Originally Posted by rufushusky

I think that is 6.4. But I think you need to remove the body to do the head studs...no fun.

I heard it was the turbo. Either way, doesn't sound like fun, at all. I think I would just sell it. That makes it disposable, right?

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