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Old 11-10-2009, 01:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So either the salesman I talked to today was on crack, or our society has hit the crack pipe one too many times. I have been drivin past our local dodge dealer for the last month and there is a sharp 6.7 out front. I'm not interested in buyin a new truck one bit....I just bought my new one but I still wanted to drive a 6.7 and I dont know anyone with one, so I went in and acted interested.

For once, I actually talked to a salesman who seemed to be pretty sharp and knew everything about the cummins engines. every question I asked, he knew the answer. So as we were sittin there shootin the sht about these trucks he asked me if I had heard about the urea issue....yes, urea issue. And I hadnt heard anything about it and he starts off by telling me, "this is going to be the most fuc*ed up thing you hear all day." and he goes on to tell me that ford and chevy will be requred to have two fuel tanks in 2010 and later on their diesels and one is diesel and one is full of pig urine..... dodge doesnt have to do it until 2015. He told me that the urine was used to treat the noxious fumes in the exhaust system. He then told me that this tank lasted for 8-10 fill ups of diesel and then you had to refill with urine for 80 dollars.
So was he on crack or is our society going down hill quickly......
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yep that is true, I dont know how long the urea tank is supposed to last, and pig urine is a stretch but close. All urea is, is nitrogen.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So either the salesman I talked to today was on crack, or our society has hit the crack pipe one too many times. I have been drivin past our local dodge dealer for the last month and there is a sharp 6.7 out front. I'm not interested in buyin a new truck one bit....I just bought my new one but I still wanted to drive a 6.7 and I dont know anyone with one, so I went in and acted interested.

For once, I actually talked to a salesman who seemed to be pretty sharp and knew everything about the cummins engines. every question I asked, he knew the answer. So as we were sittin there shootin the sht about these trucks he asked me if I had heard about the urea issue....yes, urea issue. And I hadnt heard anything about it and he starts off by telling me, "this is going to be the most fuc*ed up thing you hear all day." and he goes on to tell me that ford and chevy will be requred to have two fuel tanks in 2010 and later on their diesels and one is diesel and one is full of pig urine..... dodge doesnt have to do it until 2015. He told me that the urine was used to treat the noxious fumes in the exhaust system. He then told me that this tank lasted for 8-10 fill ups of diesel and then you had to refill with urine for 80 dollars.
So was he on crack or is our society going down hill quickly......
Hes telling the truth sir. The new 4500/5500's have to start running this model year and the regular 2500 and 3500's dont have to for a few years. As far as the costs of urea, I think it depends on where you are buying it from. It sure sucks too, this is what the market and world has come to....
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hot dam. He said dodge doesnt have to start with the 2500 and 3500 til 2015.
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From what I've heard it is actually better than the DPF system, Nothing to clog and it is supposed to increase the horsepower and mileage as well. Their already running it on commerical trucks and have seen 30 to 40 percent better mileage.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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He's correct, and when the urea tank runs out the truck will be in limp mode until you fill it back up.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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wow. That sucks. Where exactly to you buy pig piss?
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Just get your self some pigs, keep them in the truck bed and presto! No fear of limping your truck!
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Not to sound crazy (although I'm an engineer) but, is pig urine much different than human urine. Seems like taking the truck to the bar on Friday nights (with a big funnel) could save you the 80 bucks! Seriously though, there has got to be an alternative to pig urine (since urine is mostly water, is there a ph tester in the tank?). Please keep posting updates as info becomes available (my biggest concern would be freezing). Thanks, Dave.
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Urea, not pig urine, and not even a derivative there of.

More commonly called Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) is a solution of 2/3s water and 1/3 automotive grade urea. Urea is a compound of nitrogen that turns to ammonia when heated. It is most commonly made from natural gas.

You will need to fill your DEF tank on your ford or chevy every 5-8K miles depending on driving loads similar to how the number of regens varies on a 6.7L truck today. They've sized the tanks so the service interval is almost in tune with an oil change so they can both be done at the dealer at the same time.
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Not to sound crazy (although I'm an engineer) but, is pig urine much different than human urine. Seems like taking the truck to the bar on Friday nights (with a big funnel) could save you the 80 bucks! Seriously though, there has got to be an alternative to pig urine (since urine is mostly water, is there a ph tester in the tank?). Please keep posting updates as info becomes available (my biggest concern would be freezing). Thanks, Dave.
little known fast fact that urea in a pellet form is one of the most environmentally friendly road deicers on the market. Typically not used because of its cost in relation to NaCl but an option none the less.
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i think i need so smoke some crack after reading this all i know is that im pumped i got the last year of the 5.9 motor!


pig piss huh, i'll just piss on some liberals.....
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