California Diesel Owners Need Your Help!!!!1

[dezl]

Originally Posted by SmokinTheHippies

There's not really much that can get accomplished by going at Greg tho... the only way we can get this changed is by going after the legislatures that passed this crap as law. Greg Coburn is just working on the implimentation of this, even if we changed his mind, someone else from the ARB would just take it up to finish it.

I agree, we have some members on here that have friends that work for arnold. They are trying to drop lines and help us out!!!

Originally Posted by renopker

count me out ya ll call your senators and complain and wile your at it get rid of all that smoke you dump in tha air.

???????? Are you kidding me?

Originally Posted by Reddooley

Two questions.
Is there a way to clear the computer from registering the fact you have had a programmer on the vehicle?
If you dont have a programmer on at the time of the test, but the test shows you have had one on, whos to say if you dont hook one up occasionally to use for off road motorsports?
They are legal off road. It isnt illegal to use a licsensed truck offroad.
Thoughts?
What if you have a second computer to use when you go in for a smog check? Then you wouldnt be showing any codes or ghosts from programmers.
thoughts?
O.K. I know. That was more than 2 questions

You fail, if the truck has been modified from how the factory produced it you will fail. With the exceptions of lift kits and what not.

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[SmokinTheHippies]

Originally Posted by dezl

I agree, we have some members on here that have friends that work for arnold. They are trying to drop lines and help us out!!!





???????? Are you kidding me?




You fail, if the truck has been modified from how the factory produced it you will fail. With the exceptions of lift kits and what not.

not what you know but who you know! ! go team go!!!

i think its dumb, becuase like twin turbo kits would help dissapate smoke more anyway, but unless you pay all of the money to make it good for them, its illegal. BS

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2002 2500 HO 6 spd 4x4 -433HP- Feb '09 ROTM. Gone to new home!
Thanks Holland Court Diesel!
In search of my next Pig.

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...."your half a maaaaannn!"

[dezl]

Originally Posted by SmokinTheHippies

not what you know but who you know! ! go team go!!!

i think its dumb, becuase like twin turbo kits would help dissapate smoke more anyway, but unless you pay all of the money to make it good for them, its illegal. BS

the smoke that you see coming from stack/tailpipes ect, is not the harmful smoke. In fact that dark smoke is heavy and falls back to te ground, the major concern is the amount of NOx the truck produces, unfortunately diesel's do produce quite a bit. The question is does the DPF help the amount of NOx being released.

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08 Chevy LMM 6" lift 20" monsters w/35's, other than that all stock.

69 Chevelle, BB 427, Ported and polished heads, Custom cam, 10.5/1 compression, Forged TRW pistons, 1.7 Roller rockers, Holley 750 double pumper, Stage 2 TH 400, 12 bolt rear end

[SmokinTheHippies]

Originally Posted by dezl

the smoke that you see coming from stack/tailpipes ect, is not the harmful smoke. In fact that dark smoke is heavy and falls back to te ground, the major concern is the amount of NOx the truck produces, unfortunately diesel's do produce quite a bit. The question is does the DPF help the amount of NOx being released.

but thats not what they care bout. they're worried bout visisble smoke, so moving more air would help that right? does it change pollution, ... nope. but the tree huggers arent checking for that cuz they're dumb.

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2002 2500 HO 6 spd 4x4 -433HP- Feb '09 ROTM. Gone to new home!
Thanks Holland Court Diesel!
In search of my next Pig.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAEF...=youtube_gdata
...."your half a maaaaannn!"

[Danderson]

Originally Posted by Grumpy John 4X4

From what I understand its 1998 and up, but as soon as the real estate market picks up, Im out of this state 50 years is enough!

Leave. Sell low,buy low and save yourself some taxes and commision. If you wait for the market to bounce back,you'll just pay more for your new house.

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[dezl]

Originally Posted by SmokinTheHippies

but thats not what they care bout. they're worried bout visisble smoke, so moving more air would help that right? does it change pollution, ... nope. but the tree huggers arent checking for that cuz they're dumb.

That is my point exactly, greg said that they tested 350 trucks and it showed in their tests. So im going to run my own and see what the real deal is.

Originally Posted by Danderson

Leave. Sell low,buy low and save yourself some taxes and commision. If you wait for the market to bounce back,you'll just pay more for your new house.

Ignorance is Bliss my friend.....this smog garbage will head your way aswell.

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08 Chevy LMM 6" lift 20" monsters w/35's, other than that all stock.

69 Chevelle, BB 427, Ported and polished heads, Custom cam, 10.5/1 compression, Forged TRW pistons, 1.7 Roller rockers, Holley 750 double pumper, Stage 2 TH 400, 12 bolt rear end

[jhardie]

Originally Posted by Grumpy John 4X4

From what I understand its 1998 and up, but as soon as the real estate market picks up, Im out of this state 50 years is enough!

AMEN, Bro! Wife is 7 yrs to full retirement

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'06 2500 SLT Megacab 4x4, Timbrens, Icebox, Amsoil (oil & filter), Aero 4040xl, DiPricol Optix Gauges (Trans/Boost/Pyro), Bilstein 5100's

[Walker]

Here in Ontario Canada we've had smog test for diesels for awhile now. In around 8yrs for visual and 3yrs for snap( if that's where the put the probe in the tail pipe). Just do what ford has done, put louvers in the tail pipe to bring in more fresh air. Heard Cat has been doing this for years to pass emmisions.
Good luck with your fight!

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03, 4x4, 6 speed, 305, drw, CC, Laramine, 373's, GN and Fifth wheel hitches-HE351cw turbo, TurboSmart Boost Tee,(soon to be a bd s"b"s) GDP MK-2+Big Line, BD Flow-Max LP (165 gph), Arson, K&N CAI, 2nd-Gen Intake Horn, grid heater delete, expandit 5" exhaust, SMARTY POD TNT REVO, Quad RP, Autometer EGT and Boost gauges, recon smoked cab lights: Looking for 50's and that's it!!!!
433hp/929tq(inertia dyno)

[Reddooley]

Originally Posted by SmokinTheHippies

i asked that, he said anything on the truck is off road only, cannot be used on a vehicle that is streel legal, by off road only, they mean a vehicel that never sees street, not just something that can only be used off road only. i treid that way...a spare ecm would be the only way, unless it was a smarty or mp8 that didnt stain the stock comp...either way you shake it, unless your truck is stock, your gonna spend a day or two every 2 years to return back to stock, smog, then change back....

Well, theres nothing you can do about the work you will have to do, as long as you can get around it.

[totalloser]

Fools, they are. Our economy is in the tank, and they are killing small business. I'm about to roll up my heavy equipment business (just paid the bank off last year) and try and find something else to do. It doesn't appear to be financially sound to retrofit my equipment for the offroad emissions requirements, and I am not willing to sell my soul back to the bank in rough times like this, so my previously THRIVING business will no longer be kicking into the tax coffer.

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Last edited by totalloser : 03-15-2009 at 07:47 PM.

[cumminstacker17]

PM'ed you dezl. ill also try to spread this to the local Ramrunners group in the san jose area.

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1999 2500 auto, S&B cold air intake, turbo back stacks, HPFP 95, Edge EZ 180k on a 53 block

[fjlinhares]

What I did on my truck,togetaround smog laws.right after my down pipe I installed a diverter box,its what they use on big trucks with heated dump bodies.from the diverter box witch has three holes,the hole to the back I hooked up to stock pipe with the muffler. The other hole I hooked to my 6" stacks.Then I ran a pto cable from the box lever into the cab.So at any time I can switch from stock system to my open stacks,The box is easy to make also.Just like it sounds you weld a box up with the size holes you need,with a flap inside connected to an exsternal lever.If anybody is interested in making one.pm me and I try to explain it to you better or fax you a drawing.

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'95 Dodge Ram2500 4x4 w/4" Mega Mouth Down Pipe into 5" MBRP Exhaust -silencer ring mia. just getting started but many big dreams...