2010 Diesel Smog Inspection for 1998 and up/under 14,500 GVW Trucks

Johnny-Law · 01-09-2009, 04:32 PM

Hear is the latest updates from the California BAR.

Hear is what they are testing for:

-Visual Inspection of Smog Components
-OBD II Check with scan tool, "three monitors must run to completion"
-Visual Smoke Check, "most likely at idle and 2500 RPM"
-Probably EVAP (Fuel Cap) Test

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/80_BARRe...les/frame.html

Much of the confusion on GVW has come form the DMV's website, but the BAR website is more accurate as they provide the update training for the smog techs and distribute licences and so on. Slide 6 of the above BAR powerpoint presentation for the Smog techs says 14,500 and under GVW will be tested? The DMV website below is wrong in stating less than 8501 lbs:

Vehicle Registration for 2008

Colorado is said to be doing the same thing along with other Green states like NY and so on. Just look at the retrofitting for the Big Rigs! Every state that currently smogs gas cars will eventually smog Diesels. It looks like I need to move to Hawaii or Montana

Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 04:59 PM.

Johnny-Law · 01-09-2009, 04:35 PM

I called Jerry from the BAR in Fresno CA and he said the BAR information is more up to date than the DMV info. Anything over 14,500 GVW or older than 1998 is considered HD and thus will not need to be tested. He said they are working on some tail pipe parameters, but it is unlikely the test will up until 2011, but they are hoping for 2010.

DCA/BAR Field Offices Answer general consumer questions and complaints and help identify locations of licensed Smog Check stations.
Bakersfield: 3331 N. Sillect Avenue, (661) 335-7400
Culver City: 6035 Bristol Parkway, (310) 410-0024
Fresno: 4152 W. Swift Ave., Suite 104, (559) 445-5015
Oceanside: 1310 Union Plaza Court, Suite 100, (760) 439-0942
Placentia: 701 Kimberly Ave., Suite 120, (714) 961-7940
Richmond: 625 Alfred Nobel Drive, Suite A, Hercules, CA, (510) 243-9410
Riverside: 3737 Main Street, Suite 850, (951) 782-4250
Sacramento: 10220 Systems Parkway, (916) 255-4200
San Jose: 1361 South Winchester Blvd., Suite 206, (408) 277-1860
South El Monte: 1180 Durfee Ave., Suite 120, (626) 575-6934
South San Francisco: 395 Oyster Point, Suite 102, (650) 827-2074
Valencia: 27202 Turnberry Lane, Suite 250, (661) 702-6600

Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 04:43 PM.

Johnny-Law · 01-09-2009, 04:39 PM

I wonder what they are going to do regarding the first half of 1998 Cummins, as they are mechanical and do not have an ECM/PCM? I might just have to enter N/A for that part of the test.

Be sure and keep you old Cat's, intakes, exhaust manifolds and the like as any aftermarket part without a CARB sticker results in automatic failure! Even a FASS pump results in failure due to the visual check, as I do not think they are CARB certified. If you have an Air Dog do not worry as they are CARB certified

Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 09:52 PM.

thethrill · 01-09-2009, 09:16 PM

I am glad to be in Arkansas where we don't even have inspections! knock on wood!!

fordassassin · 01-09-2009, 09:38 PM

I guess its time for me to move out of the Ghetto West Coast and go to somewhere in Canada. I hate all this Emission crap that we are going to have to deal with. Its going to be a lot of labor taking off the parts and putting the stock back on. Then after the inspection, putting the parts back on. That equals a lot of $$$$$ going to use there.

How often are we going to have to smog our trucks?Is it identical to cars?Where they put them on a roller.
When you say Visual, do you mean what they can see? Cause I have a Glacier system and 2 Micron Pump hidden on the inside of the frame on the drivers side.

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Johnny-Law · 01-09-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordassassin

How often are we going to have to smog our trucks?Is it identical to cars?Where they put them on a roller.
When you say Visual, do you mean what they can see? Cause I have a Glacier system and 2 Micron Pump hidden on the inside of the frame on the drivers side.

They haven't stated yet, but I assume it would be the same as cars. Every two years in basic areas or every year on a dyno in Enhanced areas like the Bay Area.

Visual is just a visual inspection where the technician looks under the vehicle for the cat, muffler and under the hood for the EGR and all stock emission components. If anything is added to any emission related part and is not CARB approved you fail the test, even if the tail pipe numbers are good. Emission related parts cover the following:

Computers
Fuel System
Air Intake System
Majority of the Exhaust (not the tip or muffler)
Any internal Mechanical Parts that relate to combustion efficiency ( They will not pull off the valve cover, but if it smokes more due to internal parts it will fail )

Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 09:47 PM.

Danderson · 01-09-2009, 09:46 PM

Currently in Ca. you don't need to smog your new car until the fifth year of ownership. I wonder if my '07 will be exempt until 2011-2012? I've been feeling this coming,so mine is essentially stock. All you out of state guys,get ready to sell us your stock parts for a premium.

Boy,its getting tough here! We currently don't have lift laws like a few states. I can see laws next prohibiting lift kits and oversized tires because they cut into fuel economy and enlarge our "carbon footprint". Jeeez!

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08 Black Cummins · 01-09-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrill

I am glad to be in Arkansas where we don't even have inspections! knock on wood!!

me too!

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Johnny-Law · 01-09-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danderson

Currently in Ca. you don't need to smog your new car until the fifth year of ownership. I wonder if my '07 will be exempt until 2011-2012? I've been feeling this coming,so mine is essentially stock. All you out of state guys,get ready to sell us your stock parts for a premium.

Boy,its getting tough here!

I was thinking that might be the key. Buy a new truck and trick it out for the first 5 years and then sell it, but with a change of ownership it is the responsibility of the owner to SMOG the vehicle for the sale to be valid. That means you have to take off all the good stuff and install all the old

Johnny-Law · 01-12-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrill

I am glad to be in Arkansas where we don't even have inspections! knock on wood!!

Yea, just the supper Green States

Chevy-Eater · 01-12-2009, 09:14 PM

Hmmmmmmmm, thank god I got a 94 but im sure my time will come! good thing im firends with my smog guy!

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94 regular cab 4x4 Lowered , no plate, 90hp sticks, 191's, 2095 rack plug, 20* timing , Modded AFC, 5000gsk, Goerend Trans, Lockup switch, WH1C/HT60 Twins 34mm internal gate

btolenti · 01-12-2009, 09:32 PM

This state can kiss my ........

So, anyone want to buy a slightly used '06? Looking for a nice first gen....

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-4" Rancho Lift w/Superlift Traction Bars & Defiant Steering Support, 315 MTZ's on H2's
-Smarty, AFE Intake, Muffler Delete, Airdog100/Liberty Setup, ISSPRO Gauges, Amsoil BMK-11

01-09-2009, 04:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Johnny-Law Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 155 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Johnny-Law's Truck Pics	2010 Diesel Smog Inspection for 1998 and up/under 14,500 GVW Trucks Hear is the latest updates from the California BAR. Hear is what they are testing for: -Visual Inspection of Smog Components -OBD II Check with scan tool, "three monitors must run to completion" -Visual Smoke Check, "most likely at idle and 2500 RPM" -Probably EVAP (Fuel Cap) Test http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/80_BARRe...les/frame.html Much of the confusion on GVW has come form the DMV's website, but the BAR website is more accurate as they provide the update training for the smog techs and distribute licences and so on. Slide 6 of the above BAR powerpoint presentation for the Smog techs says 14,500 and under GVW will be tested? The DMV website below is wrong in stating less than 8501 lbs: Vehicle Registration for 2008 Colorado is said to be doing the same thing along with other Green states like NY and so on. Just look at the retrofitting for the Big Rigs! Every state that currently smogs gas cars will eventually smog Diesels. It looks like I need to move to Hawaii or Montana Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 04:59 PM.

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01-09-2009, 04:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Johnny-Law Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 155 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Johnny-Law's Truck Pics	I called Jerry from the BAR in Fresno CA and he said the BAR information is more up to date than the DMV info. Anything over 14,500 GVW or older than 1998 is considered HD and thus will not need to be tested. He said they are working on some tail pipe parameters, but it is unlikely the test will up until 2011, but they are hoping for 2010. DCA/BAR Field Offices Answer general consumer questions and complaints and help identify locations of licensed Smog Check stations. Bakersfield: 3331 N. Sillect Avenue, (661) 335-7400 Culver City: 6035 Bristol Parkway, (310) 410-0024 Fresno: 4152 W. Swift Ave., Suite 104, (559) 445-5015 Oceanside: 1310 Union Plaza Court, Suite 100, (760) 439-0942 Placentia: 701 Kimberly Ave., Suite 120, (714) 961-7940 Richmond: 625 Alfred Nobel Drive, Suite A, Hercules, CA, (510) 243-9410 Riverside: 3737 Main Street, Suite 850, (951) 782-4250 Sacramento: 10220 Systems Parkway, (916) 255-4200 San Jose: 1361 South Winchester Blvd., Suite 206, (408) 277-1860 South El Monte: 1180 Durfee Ave., Suite 120, (626) 575-6934 South San Francisco: 395 Oyster Point, Suite 102, (650) 827-2074 Valencia: 27202 Turnberry Lane, Suite 250, (661) 702-6600 Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 04:43 PM.

01-09-2009, 04:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Johnny-Law Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 155 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Johnny-Law's Truck Pics	I wonder what they are going to do regarding the first half of 1998 Cummins, as they are mechanical and do not have an ECM/PCM? I might just have to enter N/A for that part of the test. Be sure and keep you old Cat's, intakes, exhaust manifolds and the like as any aftermarket part without a CARB sticker results in automatic failure! Even a FASS pump results in failure due to the visual check, as I do not think they are CARB certified. If you have an Air Dog do not worry as they are CARB certified Last edited by Johnny-Law : 01-09-2009 at 09:52 PM.

01-09-2009, 09:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
thethrill Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 111 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts thethrill's Truck Pics	I am glad to be in Arkansas where we don't even have inspections! knock on wood!!

01-09-2009, 09:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
fordassassin Diesel Head Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fresno,CA Posts: 3,265 Thanks: 21 Thanked 57 Times in 55 Posts fordassassin's Truck Pics	I guess its time for me to move out of the Ghetto West Coast and go to somewhere in Canada. I hate all this Emission crap that we are going to have to deal with. Its going to be a lot of labor taking off the parts and putting the stock back on. Then after the inspection, putting the parts back on. That equals a lot of $$$$$ going to use there. How often are we going to have to smog our trucks?Is it identical to cars?Where they put them on a roller. When you say Visual, do you mean what they can see? Cause I have a Glacier system and 2 Micron Pump hidden on the inside of the frame on the drivers side. __________________ Early 2004 that has a 120 speedo.Not doing anything Dodge didn't want (2003 Sled Puller)E.D Air, Flux/Wicked Fueling,Kenny Trans http://www.youtube.com/user/gooodyboyz559

01-09-2009, 09:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Danderson Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Darn near the Mexican border. Posts: 2,174 Thanks: 3 Thanked 46 Times in 44 Posts Danderson's Truck Pics	Currently in Ca. you don't need to smog your new car until the fifth year of ownership. I wonder if my '07 will be exempt until 2011-2012? I've been feeling this coming,so mine is essentially stock. All you out of state guys,get ready to sell us your stock parts for a premium. Boy,its getting tough here! We currently don't have lift laws like a few states. I can see laws next prohibiting lift kits and oversized tires because they cut into fuel economy and enlarge our "carbon footprint". Jeeez! __________________ '07 2500 SLT,5.9,reg.cab.,G-56, 4wd,8' Northstar popup 24/7. Carli,Defiant,Thuren,King. Last edited by Danderson : 01-09-2009 at 11:16 PM.

01-12-2009, 09:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chevy-Eater Diesel Freak Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Jose Posts: 906 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Chevy-Eater's Truck Pics	Hmmmmmmmm, thank god I got a 94 but im sure my time will come! good thing im firends with my smog guy! __________________ 94 regular cab 4x4 Lowered , no plate, 90hp sticks, 191's, 2095 rack plug, 20* timing , Modded AFC, 5000gsk, Goerend Trans, Lockup switch, WH1C/HT60 Twins 34mm internal gate

01-12-2009, 09:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
btolenti Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 1,103 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts btolenti's Truck Pics	This state can kiss my ........ So, anyone want to buy a slightly used '06? Looking for a nice first gen.... __________________ 06 Silver Quad Cab 4x4 Automatic -4" Rancho Lift w/Superlift Traction Bars & Defiant Steering Support, 315 MTZ's on H2's -Smarty, AFE Intake, Muffler Delete, Airdog100/Liberty Setup, ISSPRO Gauges, Amsoil BMK-11