Bio-Diesel Machines

Sciulli · 03-11-2008, 10:06 AM

Ok, well awhile ago I was planning on setting up my own business (Sciulli Bio-Fuels), but after talking with Larry I decided to wrap it into Discount Power Parts.

This is just a little pre-emptive post for the machines we are going to sell. We just submitted our paperwork, for the dealership rights and will be the exclusive dealer in the Pittsburgh region. In a nutshell the Machines are FULLY automated and come in three sizes (40, 50 and 100 gallon version). The prices are set by the manufacturer, but we may get to have an sale every now and again. The machines are all sold at the same price regardless of where you buy them. I own a 50 gallon version and can answer all of your questions concering that particular model. The other two are the same principles but I have not had the privilege to operate them.

Here are a couple quick pictures of each unit.

BioPro150

BioPro190

BioPro380

Thats a pretty basic overview of each machine. Tommarow I will be getting the basic outline of the website together so they can be ordered online @ DPP.com

I believe general pricing will be as follows:

(40 gallon)150 $5995
(50 gallon)190 $8395
(100 gallon)380 $12995

rufushusky · 03-11-2008, 10:12 AM

Wow they look good man!

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ponytamr2 · 03-11-2008, 10:13 AM

Any word from your supplier about highway use? I am very interested in the machine but I live in North Carolina and we have made the news for DOT fines for home made Biodiesel. Our friendly government at work, helping to solve the problem of foreign oil dependence.

Sparks280zt · 03-11-2008, 12:32 PM

Homemade Biodiesel in North Carolina for personal use in perfectly legal. For commercial use is a little stickier, solution, ask the DOT officer how he knows the b20 in your rig is homebrewed or bought at a truck stop that sells it? Like Sphinx, etc.

On the machines, look nice but awful pricey for what they are.

Sciulli · 03-11-2008, 12:52 PM

Yep, they are pricy, but you get what you pay for. There fully automaded and all you do is press a button and walk away. Very little hands on time.

txrlk · 03-11-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciulli

Yep, they are pricy, but you get what you pay for. There fully automaded and all you do is press a button and walk away. Very little hands on time.

How about a PM with pricing?
Thanks

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Sparks280zt · 03-11-2008, 02:10 PM

So let me get this correct:

this machine pre filters, de waters, converts, washes, and dries cooking oil into biodiesel with a touch of a button?

jmandrze · 03-11-2008, 02:15 PM

What type of wash cycle does your system use? Is it a mist, bubble, or water mix wash? I am concerned about the oxidazation of the fuel during brewing, as its final use would be in a common rail and thus the chance for oxidazation increase during usage. Good luck.

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Sciulli · 03-11-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

So let me get this correct:

this machine pre filters, de waters, converts, washes, and dries cooking oil into biodiesel with a touch of a button?

Pretty much. The machine requires the oil to be filtered down to 200 microns before processing. If your collecting using an 12V pump with a mesh strainer on the end.. then you should be within the range. If you plan on using the machine for dewatering, then you will need to come back to stop the cycle, Add in the chemicals and then press a button and walk away. Come back in 12hrs to drain the glycerin and then start the wash cycle. Your total time in front of the machine is about 30mins-45mins until you get comfortable.

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What type of wash cycle does your system use? Is it a mist, bubble, or water mix wash? I am concerned about the oxidazation of the fuel during brewing, as its final use would be in a common rail and thus the chance for oxidazation increase during usage.

It uses a logic controlled wash stage. It is a misting head that goes through about 5 washes. As the washes progress, there is an impeller that kicks in and assits in the washing/drying. I a week I should have the website portion for biodiesel done. Were planing on selling the machines on the site only. If you want some seconday compoentents we can direct you where to buy them.

jmandrze · 03-12-2008, 11:54 AM

Have you ran any batches through the system and had the fuel quality checked aginst US ASTM D-6751 or DIN 14214 for quality? I am just wondering, also you said it was a logic controlled wash, is it an open feedback loop or closed? What does it use to control the wash cycle? I am just courious. Thanks

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Sciulli · 03-12-2008, 06:22 PM

I personally have not, but other guys who run this machine have. I have a copy of a Full Blown ASTM report that I will post. I cannt recall the exact specification for what is the basic "guideline" for making ASTM fuel, but I'm pretty sure it is less than .5% FFA and .2%water content.. for the basic feedstock. The wash cycle is preprogramed and does not change, reguardless of good your glycerine seperation was or anything. Its set up for the worst "sanarios". To keep the water levels in-check, water float switches are used and they sense when to stop adding water and then to turn off the water draining pump. I think that may classify it as a closed loop, since it does sense some inputs and makes changes..... i did not enjoy my dynamic systems electives in college.

Last edited by Sciulli : 03-19-2008 at 01:49 PM.

BigJCTD · 03-12-2008, 06:49 PM

No offense but isn't $8,000 is kinda steep for an 50 gal unit. Several companies make these for around $3000 with steel containers. I can build one myself for less than a $1000. Looks like a real nice unit but you can buy alot of diesel for $8,000 dollars even a $4 a gal. And you still have to buy the chemicals on top of that price.

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03-11-2008, 10:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sciulli Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 197 Sciulli's Truck Pics	Bio-Diesel Machines Ok, well awhile ago I was planning on setting up my own business (Sciulli Bio-Fuels), but after talking with Larry I decided to wrap it into Discount Power Parts. This is just a little pre-emptive post for the machines we are going to sell. We just submitted our paperwork, for the dealership rights and will be the exclusive dealer in the Pittsburgh region. In a nutshell the Machines are FULLY automated and come in three sizes (40, 50 and 100 gallon version). The prices are set by the manufacturer, but we may get to have an sale every now and again. The machines are all sold at the same price regardless of where you buy them. I own a 50 gallon version and can answer all of your questions concering that particular model. The other two are the same principles but I have not had the privilege to operate them. Here are a couple quick pictures of each unit. BioPro150 BioPro190 BioPro380 Thats a pretty basic overview of each machine. Tommarow I will be getting the basic outline of the website together so they can be ordered online @ DPP.com I believe general pricing will be as follows: (40 gallon)150 $5995 (50 gallon)190 $8395 (100 gallon)380 $12995

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03-11-2008, 10:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
rufushusky Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The People's republic of Massachusetts Posts: 4,105 rufushusky's Truck Pics	Wow they look good man! __________________ Dennis 04.5 Ram 2500 Reg Cab 4x4 5.9, 48re, AEM, Smarty, TS Ramifier, Banks High Ram,FASS HPFP, Boost/pyro/trans/FP/RP gauges, 5" Exhaust, Cat 2 micron fuel filter, Amsoil Bypass Check out: Rig of the Month! http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/rig-month/

03-11-2008, 10:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
ponytamr2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 14 ponytamr2's Truck Pics	Any word from your supplier about highway use? I am very interested in the machine but I live in North Carolina and we have made the news for DOT fines for home made Biodiesel. Our friendly government at work, helping to solve the problem of foreign oil dependence.

03-11-2008, 12:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sparks280zt Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 102 Sparks280zt's Truck Pics	Homemade Biodiesel in North Carolina for personal use in perfectly legal. For commercial use is a little stickier, solution, ask the DOT officer how he knows the b20 in your rig is homebrewed or bought at a truck stop that sells it? Like Sphinx, etc. On the machines, look nice but awful pricey for what they are.

03-11-2008, 12:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sciulli Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 197 Sciulli's Truck Pics	Yep, they are pricy, but you get what you pay for. There fully automaded and all you do is press a button and walk away. Very little hands on time.

03-11-2008, 02:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sparks280zt Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 102 Sparks280zt's Truck Pics	So let me get this correct: this machine pre filters, de waters, converts, washes, and dries cooking oil into biodiesel with a touch of a button?

03-11-2008, 02:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
jmandrze Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Detroit,MI Posts: 7 jmandrze's Truck Pics	What type of wash cycle does your system use? Is it a mist, bubble, or water mix wash? I am concerned about the oxidazation of the fuel during brewing, as its final use would be in a common rail and thus the chance for oxidazation increase during usage. Good luck. __________________ Jason - 2005 5.9L 3500 SRW 2" leveling kit

03-12-2008, 11:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
jmandrze Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Detroit,MI Posts: 7 jmandrze's Truck Pics	Have you ran any batches through the system and had the fuel quality checked aginst US ASTM D-6751 or DIN 14214 for quality? I am just wondering, also you said it was a logic controlled wash, is it an open feedback loop or closed? What does it use to control the wash cycle? I am just courious. Thanks __________________ Jason - 2005 5.9L 3500 SRW 2" leveling kit

03-12-2008, 06:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sciulli Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 197 Sciulli's Truck Pics	I personally have not, but other guys who run this machine have. I have a copy of a Full Blown ASTM report that I will post. I cannt recall the exact specification for what is the basic "guideline" for making ASTM fuel, but I'm pretty sure it is less than .5% FFA and .2%water content.. for the basic feedstock. The wash cycle is preprogramed and does not change, reguardless of good your glycerine seperation was or anything. Its set up for the worst "sanarios". To keep the water levels in-check, water float switches are used and they sense when to stop adding water and then to turn off the water draining pump. I think that may classify it as a closed loop, since it does sense some inputs and makes changes..... i did not enjoy my dynamic systems electives in college. Last edited by Sciulli : 03-19-2008 at 01:49 PM.

03-12-2008, 06:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
BigJCTD Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 79 BigJCTD's Truck Pics	No offense but isn't $8,000 is kinda steep for an 50 gal unit. Several companies make these for around $3000 with steel containers. I can build one myself for less than a $1000. Looks like a real nice unit but you can buy alot of diesel for $8,000 dollars even a $4 a gal. And you still have to buy the chemicals on top of that price. __________________ Big John 2006 4X4 Quad Cab Big Horn CTD, Juice w/ Attitude, AFE Stage 2 Pro Dry S, AFE Blade Runner Intake, AFE Muffler