Black Paint And Swirl Marks

Boosted99.5 · 04-22-2008, 07:36 PM

I have had it with the swirl marks i wash the truck once a week and have them wax it with 100% carnuba wax what the hell also i dont dry the truck with a shammy or a towel i use a blower so nothing touches the paint. i also use micro towels for the wax on wax off process what give how do i get the swirl marks to hide at least.

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24v auto, cai,100hp diry sticks, dirty bumper,gutted heater spacer, banks intake, waste gate unplugged, 3.54's,edge comp/drag box, "53" BLOCK, 5% tints,4'' exhaust,Alcoa 16'' rims w/ michelin rubber, boost and fuel gauges liquid filled extang cover.

moody6.7 · 04-23-2008, 05:03 AM

Dark colors, especially black, really show swirl marks. There is an excellent sticky above on how to wash your truck and what gear to use. Swirl marks can be put into the paint when washing improperly just one time.

Who is waxing your truck? And how are they waxing it? I have seen several "detail shops" that I would not let wash my riding lawn mower.

The only way to get the swirls out is to polish them out.

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At an Auction Site Near You 2007.5 2500 SLT QC, 6.7L, 6 Spd Auto, SWB, ECM reprogrammed 4 times.....

Boosted99.5 · 04-23-2008, 05:48 AM

i wax it and i wash it at my warehouse in the shade. also i hand wax it with 100% carnuba wax everytime i wash it.

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24v auto, cai,100hp diry sticks, dirty bumper,gutted heater spacer, banks intake, waste gate unplugged, 3.54's,edge comp/drag box, "53" BLOCK, 5% tints,4'' exhaust,Alcoa 16'' rims w/ michelin rubber, boost and fuel gauges liquid filled extang cover.

moody6.7 · 04-23-2008, 06:52 AM

I would definitely suggest you use the 2 bucket wash method outlined in the sticky by smokindiesel. I use sheepskin mitts. They do not last as long as some other mitts but can be bought locally.

To get the swirls out will take some polishing. Use will need a polisher. There is another thread ongoing that has a link to a good deal on a UDM bundled with polishing pads.

With darker color paint washing technique is crucial in preventing swirl mark.

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2008 2500 Laramie QC, SWB, Silver, 68rfe,
At an Auction Site Near You 2007.5 2500 SLT QC, 6.7L, 6 Spd Auto, SWB, ECM reprogrammed 4 times.....

boogy886 · 04-23-2008, 07:25 AM

Turtle wax makes a product, it comes in a black bottle, I can't remember the name of it. But, essentially its a colored wax. I used to use it on my 2001, wax with that and then do your carnuba, or just the turtle wax, it will look great! it's just that extra step takes a while. and make sure to use microfiber cloths that are going to be designated for that wax bc that stuff DOES NOT wash out...

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Boosted99.5 · 04-23-2008, 07:37 AM

cool thanks.

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24v auto, cai,100hp diry sticks, dirty bumper,gutted heater spacer, banks intake, waste gate unplugged, 3.54's,edge comp/drag box, "53" BLOCK, 5% tints,4'' exhaust,Alcoa 16'' rims w/ michelin rubber, boost and fuel gauges liquid filled extang cover.

TDI · 04-23-2008, 07:43 AM

Buy a product called Zaino Pro #5. You can get it here: Zaino Store I nearly always tend to buy dark colored cars (except for this silver truck), and I can tell you swirl marks are a PITA. Zaino products are nearly perfect as far as I can tell. My black Volkswagen looks like liquid glass when I'm finished. I have spent a LOT of time applying applying carnuba waxes, and have decided it's a waste of time. I believe it actually makes the swirl marks pop out even more a few weeks after it's applied. The Zaino products are the best I've ever used, and I've tried nearly everything. They are a bit more expensive in the beginning, but you actually use less of the product. Best of all my black VW & the wife's midnight blue Odyssey still look great 6 months after the zaino is applied. Water still beads up very nicely too. I doubt you'd be disappointed with the result. I've come to the conclusion that there is nothing I will use on my vehicles that is sold in Wal-Mart or some discount auto parts place

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2002 Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI 5sp (Yes, it's a DIESEL)
2005 Honda Odyssey Touring (wife's)

boogy886 · 04-23-2008, 07:46 AM

zaino is awesome too. It just takes forever and is a multi-step process with multiple coats of different zaino products, if you really want to do it right. But TDI is right it does work great.

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moody6.7 · 04-23-2008, 06:07 PM

I have never seen Zaino cover any swirl marks. Zaino is a fine sealant that lasts a long time. It is not the easiest product to apply. It does look good if the paint is properly prepared (free of swirls). Zaino will not cover even small blemishes in paint. I think the blemishes are even more noticable when Zaino is applied.

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2008 2500 Laramie QC, SWB, Silver, 68rfe,
At an Auction Site Near You 2007.5 2500 SLT QC, 6.7L, 6 Spd Auto, SWB, ECM reprogrammed 4 times.....

HoofPower · 04-23-2008, 06:16 PM

For starters never use a circular motion...that comes straight from an amazing body shop down here. Always go front to back motion. Also, use a claybar kit to really get down and clean the truck after you hand wash it. if the claybar doesnt get out the swirls, try using meguires swirl remover..works great. Front to back on everything though. And if all else fails...for a couple hundred bucks, take it to a good body shop, and have them cut and buff it...its worth it, it will look better than new!

HoofPower · 04-23-2008, 06:19 PM

I had a blck dodge dually for about 2 years, and it had bad swirls in it. I always waxed with a circular motion. I used a clay bar, washed it really good going straight back to fron motion, and took it down and had a custom body shop cut and buff the whole truck. That thing was a show stopper!!

TDI · 04-23-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moody6.7

I have never seen Zaino cover any swirl marks. Zaino is a fine sealant that lasts a long time. It is not the easiest product to apply. It does look good if the paint is properly prepared (free of swirls). Zaino will not cover even small blemishes in paint. I think the blemishes are even more noticable when Zaino is applied.

Then you've never used Zaino products correctly. I've owned 5 black vehicles, and I won't use anything else. Swirl marks are history if you do it right.

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2002 Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI 5sp (Yes, it's a DIESEL)
2005 Honda Odyssey Touring (wife's)

04-22-2008, 07:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Boosted99.5 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: miami,florida Posts: 160 Boosted99.5's Truck Pics	Black Paint And Swirl Marks I have had it with the swirl marks i wash the truck once a week and have them wax it with 100% carnuba wax what the hell also i dont dry the truck with a shammy or a towel i use a blower so nothing touches the paint. i also use micro towels for the wax on wax off process what give how do i get the swirl marks to hide at least. __________________ 24v auto, cai,100hp diry sticks, dirty bumper,gutted heater spacer, banks intake, waste gate unplugged, 3.54's,edge comp/drag box, "53" BLOCK, 5% tints,4'' exhaust,Alcoa 16'' rims w/ michelin rubber, boost and fuel gauges liquid filled extang cover.

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04-23-2008, 05:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
moody6.7 Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE Louisiana Posts: 35 moody6.7's Truck Pics	Dark colors, especially black, really show swirl marks. There is an excellent sticky above on how to wash your truck and what gear to use. Swirl marks can be put into the paint when washing improperly just one time. Who is waxing your truck? And how are they waxing it? I have seen several "detail shops" that I would not let wash my riding lawn mower. The only way to get the swirls out is to polish them out. __________________ 2008 2500 Laramie QC, SWB, Silver, 68rfe, At an Auction Site Near You 2007.5 2500 SLT QC, 6.7L, 6 Spd Auto, SWB, ECM reprogrammed 4 times.....

04-23-2008, 05:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Boosted99.5 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: miami,florida Posts: 160 Boosted99.5's Truck Pics	i wax it and i wash it at my warehouse in the shade. also i hand wax it with 100% carnuba wax everytime i wash it. __________________ 24v auto, cai,100hp diry sticks, dirty bumper,gutted heater spacer, banks intake, waste gate unplugged, 3.54's,edge comp/drag box, "53" BLOCK, 5% tints,4'' exhaust,Alcoa 16'' rims w/ michelin rubber, boost and fuel gauges liquid filled extang cover.

04-23-2008, 06:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
moody6.7 Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE Louisiana Posts: 35 moody6.7's Truck Pics	I would definitely suggest you use the 2 bucket wash method outlined in the sticky by smokindiesel. I use sheepskin mitts. They do not last as long as some other mitts but can be bought locally. To get the swirls out will take some polishing. Use will need a polisher. There is another thread ongoing that has a link to a good deal on a UDM bundled with polishing pads. With darker color paint washing technique is crucial in preventing swirl mark. __________________ 2008 2500 Laramie QC, SWB, Silver, 68rfe, At an Auction Site Near You 2007.5 2500 SLT QC, 6.7L, 6 Spd Auto, SWB, ECM reprogrammed 4 times.....

04-23-2008, 07:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
boogy886 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 155 boogy886's Truck Pics	Turtle wax makes a product, it comes in a black bottle, I can't remember the name of it. But, essentially its a colored wax. I used to use it on my 2001, wax with that and then do your carnuba, or just the turtle wax, it will look great! it's just that extra step takes a while. and make sure to use microfiber cloths that are going to be designated for that wax bc that stuff DOES NOT wash out... __________________ BLAKE: 2005 2500 CTD QC SB 4x4 Auto

04-23-2008, 07:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Boosted99.5 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: miami,florida Posts: 160 Boosted99.5's Truck Pics	cool thanks. __________________ 24v auto, cai,100hp diry sticks, dirty bumper,gutted heater spacer, banks intake, waste gate unplugged, 3.54's,edge comp/drag box, "53" BLOCK, 5% tints,4'' exhaust,Alcoa 16'' rims w/ michelin rubber, boost and fuel gauges liquid filled extang cover.

04-23-2008, 07:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
TDI Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southern Oregon Coast Posts: 22 TDI's Truck Pics	Buy a product called Zaino Pro #5. You can get it here: Zaino Store I nearly always tend to buy dark colored cars (except for this silver truck), and I can tell you swirl marks are a PITA. Zaino products are nearly perfect as far as I can tell. My black Volkswagen looks like liquid glass when I'm finished. I have spent a LOT of time applying applying carnuba waxes, and have decided it's a waste of time. I believe it actually makes the swirl marks pop out even more a few weeks after it's applied. The Zaino products are the best I've ever used, and I've tried nearly everything. They are a bit more expensive in the beginning, but you actually use less of the product. Best of all my black VW & the wife's midnight blue Odyssey still look great 6 months after the zaino is applied. Water still beads up very nicely too. I doubt you'd be disappointed with the result. I've come to the conclusion that there is nothing I will use on my vehicles that is sold in Wal-Mart or some discount auto parts place __________________ 2004 Quad Cab 4X4 HO 6 speed manual 2002 Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI 5sp (Yes, it's a DIESEL) 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring (wife's)

04-23-2008, 07:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
boogy886 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 155 boogy886's Truck Pics	zaino is awesome too. It just takes forever and is a multi-step process with multiple coats of different zaino products, if you really want to do it right. But TDI is right it does work great. __________________ BLAKE: 2005 2500 CTD QC SB 4x4 Auto

04-23-2008, 06:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
moody6.7 Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE Louisiana Posts: 35 moody6.7's Truck Pics	I have never seen Zaino cover any swirl marks. Zaino is a fine sealant that lasts a long time. It is not the easiest product to apply. It does look good if the paint is properly prepared (free of swirls). Zaino will not cover even small blemishes in paint. I think the blemishes are even more noticable when Zaino is applied. __________________ 2008 2500 Laramie QC, SWB, Silver, 68rfe, At an Auction Site Near You 2007.5 2500 SLT QC, 6.7L, 6 Spd Auto, SWB, ECM reprogrammed 4 times.....

04-23-2008, 06:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
HoofPower Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 467 HoofPower's Truck Pics	For starters never use a circular motion...that comes straight from an amazing body shop down here. Always go front to back motion. Also, use a claybar kit to really get down and clean the truck after you hand wash it. if the claybar doesnt get out the swirls, try using meguires swirl remover..works great. Front to back on everything though. And if all else fails...for a couple hundred bucks, take it to a good body shop, and have them cut and buff it...its worth it, it will look better than new!

04-23-2008, 06:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
HoofPower Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 467 HoofPower's Truck Pics	I had a blck dodge dually for about 2 years, and it had bad swirls in it. I always waxed with a circular motion. I used a clay bar, washed it really good going straight back to fron motion, and took it down and had a custom body shop cut and buff the whole truck. That thing was a show stopper!!