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| Cummins Pulling Discussion Pertaining to Cummins Transfer Sled Pulling |
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2wd sled pulling tips
I have received alot of emails on the 2wd sled pulling topic. So for those of you that are wanting to give it a shot i will post some of my expericense Step 1 (set up) Setups may vary according to horsepower and vehicle u are using. I have found that using something that stiffing the rear end creates weight transfer quicker into the pull. You want something to block the rear end solid so that one or both back tires will lift off the ground appox 2-4 inchs. If the front end lifts any higher then this point u are basically killing your self. U want to make sure to have a good locker in the rear end. If not when your tires raise off the ground your truck will want to go where the power is. Step 2 ( Hitch) The hitch is extremely important in hooking. U want to be sure to lift your rear end as high as rules allow. When setting up the hitch go 2 inchs past your mark. When u add weight to the bed of your truck and drop tires pressure to 25psi ( Does the best for me Others may vary) then u will drop 2 inchs of hitch height with all weight in the bed. This will allow u to be dead on the money when the tech checks your hitch height. Step 3 ( Setting up weight ) Weight is the second biggest factor with a 2wd truck. U want to get all your weight about half way from the fender wheels and tail gate. This will allow your front end to pick up ( I run 770 pounds right over there rear tires. And 420 On the tail gate.) This allows for weight transfer very rapid during the hook. The 770 pound helps u get out of the whole and get the sled moving while the 420 pounds helps your front end raise up And both work with each other to get the ground speed that u need. Results may very according to power that u have. My truck is a estimated 530 hp So if u are in that neighbor hood this set up should also work for you. Step 4 ( Front end ) I know dodge and ford do not have torsion bars. Put if there is a way u can set the front end down as low as u can get it that to will also help in pulling. If you have a leveling kit your rear tires will not plant until appox 1/4 or 1/2 way down the track. With lowering the front end on the vehicle almost as soon as u come out of the whole the back tires are planted and front tires are off the ground. Also run stock size tires on front and run 33- 35 on rear ( Rear tires may differ accodring to power levels. Step 5 ( FAQ's) I have received some emails from differnt people interested in the sport and here are some of the question. Q. What kinda tires do you run anything speical? A. I have 2 differnt set of tires i have a set of 315/75/16 procomp M/T's i run on are harder clay tracks. And i have a set of 33/14.50/16.5 boggers for are softer tracks. Q. What gear ratio do you have? A. I have stock 3.73 gearing with a g-80 locker Q. Would u suggestion using a 5 speed or 6 speed for pulling? A. My self i like to use a automatic. Reason being Some tracks u can only run first gear others u can catch second. With a 2wd if u shift from 1st to 2nd on advarage you lose 2-4 mph. With that being the case u can not afford to loose ground speed in a 2wd or your night is done. Also you will have to ride the clucth alot to get the weight moving after letting out of the clucth fully most trucks start to hop. Q. Is there any speical way u wanna stage " spot " the sled when hooking? A. Some organazation allow u to hook to the sled how u want to and others wont allow u. If there is a possible way to stage "spot" the sled to the left or to the right from where everyone eles is hooking then do it. If not as soon as u come out of the hole look at the track and make your best judgement on what path u should take to the flag guy. Q. Do u have traction bars? A. Currently i do not have traction bars i have never needed them yet the truck does not hop coming out. I am currently in the process of getting some to put on my truck to see what kinda differnce if any they make. Q. What kinda tranny work do u have done? Would u reccomend any? A. I started off pulling with a stock ally and she did not like it very well. 2high is to big of a gear to pull with. it makes alot of heat for the torque converter seal. I now have a transgo tranny with a stock converter. I strongly reccomend a billet converter. As they can handle more heat then stock
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Snow flake 2004.5 D/A Efi live, And way to many other mods. 2wd sled puller K&P Diesel House Last edited by duramaxin14 : 05-10-2008 at 11:34 PM. |
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For all the guys that are intersted i started my own 2wd sled pulling forum. www2wdsledpullingforumcom :: Index You can come here and we will share tips and ideas on it and plus talk about diesel stuff. ITs free to become a member so if u would like join up Please keep in mind i just started it so it will take a couple days to get it working proplery
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I dont want no BS in my sticky. im trying to keep this more technical terms then BS. Also this place is not a drama house like you are used to on compd so please keep out
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Hopefully a moderator can delete inlines post and mine as well to clean up this very informative and well thought through thread... I think it's a great idea to help 2wd guys get competitive.
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any 2wd events going on in march? just curious... i enjoy watching you guys be competitive as much or more than as us 4 wheel guys.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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can a 2wd even hang with the 4wd guys?
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trying not to be bias but are you saying a 2wd can be competetive with 4wd as placing once in a while or is it possible to dominate over 4wds with enough hp and right set up.
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So with the alison do you put it in 2nd or D?
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Put the ally in first. If u fill u are pulling enought rpms to for it to slam in second then shift. Put chances are you wont. I was only able to do it one time and are tracks down here in florida are sugar sand. So it takes a very very loose track and alot of horsepower to catch 2nd gear
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