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pulling truck set ups??
Ok i have been building my truck for a while now and am getting ready to put the motor in it. My question is what can i do to the drive train to make it hold up? I have a dana 80 in the rear, its a standard cab long bed so the drive shaft is one peice. But i dont think it will hold very long, so what can i do to make it better? Also the truck has a 6 inch lift on it, is that going to be a big no no or is it going to be acceptable? I am buildiong it to do fairs and stuff like that but would like to get competative in the sanctioned stuff also. What do you guys recomend me to do from here? Thanks.
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first off the lift is going to cause it to bounce take the lift off 2" of suspension travel is allowed you going to need stop traction bars are a must find way to get your truck to weight as close class weight as possible get drive shaft loops make your own there easy run 33" tires bfg AT they seem to do best on any kinda track the worst thing you have going is your lift sorry to tell ya that Intro | Event Schedule | Class Rules | Point Standings | Gallery | Purse STREET LICENSED DIESEL 4x4 TRUCKS 2007 RULES AT FULL PULL PRODUCTIONS’ EVENTS [ms word] THIS IS AN OPEN STREET LEGAL 4X4 TRUCK CLASS AVAILABLE TO CURRENTLY LICENSED OWNERS OF TRUCKS THAT ARE LEGAL FOR HIGHWAY USE. IF YOUR TRUCK IS STREET LEGAL AND IS BUILT TO THE RULES SET FORTH HEREIN, YOU CAN ENTER THIS CLASS. REGISTRATION PAPERS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVE THAT THE TRUCK IS LICENSED FOR STREET USE. A LICENSE PLATE WITH A CURRENT STICKER TAG IS REQUIRED TO BE AFFIXED TO THE TRUCK. REGISTRATION PAPERS AND LICENSE PLATE AND STICKER TAG MUST MATCH. IF APPLICABLE, A CURRENT INSPECTION STICKER IS REQUIRED. TRUCKS MAY BE HAULED TO THE PULL. WEIGHT CLASS IS 8000 pounds. No weight brackets or hanging weights allowed on front of vehicles. Weights must be in cargo area only and securely fastened or contained safely therein. No weights allowed under hood OR IN THE WHEEL WELLS. NO WEIGHTS MAY BE SUSPENDED UNDER THE BODY/CHASSIS OR BEHIND PANELS/PARTS. WEIGHT CLASS MAY BE INCREASED AT THE OPTION OF THE HEAD OFFICIAL, BUT MAY NOT BE DECREASED. SINGLE TURBO CHARGER ONLY PERMITTED. THE EXHAUST SIDE - MEASURED AT OR NEAR THE TURBO WHEEL - MAY BE NO LARGER THAN THREE (3”) INCHES IN DIAMETER AND WILL BE CHECKED AT THE OFFICIAL’S DISCRETION WITH A 3.05” SLUG OR CALIPERS AT THE OFFICIALS DISCRETION. FAILURE TO ALLOW FOR TURBO INSPECTION AND MEASUREMENT WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE DISQUALIFICATION WITHOUT A REFUND. ANY TRUCK DISQUALIFIED FOR THIS REASON WILL BE REQUIRED TO UNDERGO A COMPLETE TECH INSPECTION, INCLUDING TURBO MEASURING, PRIOR TO ANY FURTHER PARTICIPATION. MOTOR CHANGES THAT INCREASE HORSEPOWER OVER AND ABOVE THE FACTORY RATED HORSEPOWER OR THAT INCREASE RPMs OVER AND ABOVE THE FACTORY RATED RANGE WILL REQUIRE FULL SAFETY EQUIPMENT AS NORMALLY WOULD BE FOUND WITH PRO STREET DIESEL. DRIVERS MAY BE REQUIRED TO SIGN A ‘WAIVER’ THAT STATES THAT THEIR TRUCK HAS NOT BEEN ‘ENHANCED’ OVER AND ABOVE THE FACTORY RATED HORSEPOWER and/or RPM. FAILURE TO SIGN THE WAIVER WOULD EXCLUDE THE TRUCK FROM PARTICIPATION. NO STUDDED TIRES, TIRE CHAINS OR ANY TIRE NOT SPECIFICALLY INTENDED FOR STREET USE ARE PERMITTED. ALL TIRES MUST CARRY A D.O.T. NUMBER ON THE SIDEWALL. NO CUT, ALTERED OR SHARPENED TIRES. TRUCKS WITH DUAL REAR WHEELS MAY ENTER AND RUN IN THIS CLASS BUT TIRES MAY NOT EXTEND BEYOND THE OUTER EDGE OF THE FACTORY FENDER WELL. TRUCKS USING DUAL REAR WHEELS MUST HAVE A FACTORY BED WITH FACTORY FENDER WELLS. FRONT BUMPERS MUST BE UNALTERED FACTORY STOCK. NO WEIGHTED FRONT DEVICES ARE PERMITTED - THIS INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO: HOMEMADE BUMPERS, BRUSH GUARDS AND WINCHES. LOWER BRACKETS (ONLY) FOR SNOW PLOW FRAMES ARE PERMITTED SO LONG AS NO MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD ADD WEIGHT ARE DETERMINED. AN UNALTERED DECORATIVE BRUSH GUARD MAY BE PERMITTED AT THE OPTION OF THE HEAD OFFICIAL. A TRUCK IS PERMITTED TO COMPETE WITHOUT A FRONT BUMPER. THE HITCH POINT WILL BE FROM THE REAR BUMPER ONLY OR FROM A “REESE TYPE” HITCH ON A LEVEL PLANE WITH THE POINT OF ATTACHMENT TO THE TRUCK’S FRAME BEHIND THE PUMPKIN OF THE REAR END. NO OTHER TYPES OF HITCHES ARE PERMITTED. HITCH POINT MAY NOT BE MORE THAN 26" FROM GROUND. HITCH POINT MUST BE HORIZONTAL – PARALLEL TO THE GROUND. NO ANGLED, LEVER, PIVOT, AXIS OR OTHER TYPES OF ‘TRICK’ HITCHES ARE ALLOWED AND THE HITCH MUST BE STATIONARY IN ALL DIRECTIONS. THE HOOK POINT MUST BE THE FURTHEST POINT TO THE BACK OF TRUCK. HOOK POINT MUST BE PAST THE BED OF THE TRUCK IF THERE IS NO BUMPER, OR PAST THE END OF THE BUMPER. SHORTENING OF THE BED IN ORDER TO SHORTEN THE HOOK POINT IS NOT PERMITTED. EACH TRUCK DRIVER MUST SUPPLY A TWISTED CLEVIS WITH A HOOKING HOLE A MINIMUM OF 3.5 INCHES ACROSS. NO ALUMINUM ENGINE BLOCKS ARE PERMITTED UNLESS O.E.M. NO OPEN HEADERS WILL BE ALLOWED. PUMP DIESEL IS THE PRIMARY FUEL PERMITTED. ABSOLUTELY NO ALCOHOL, NITROUS OXIDE, PROPANE OR OTHER OXYGEN EXTENDERS. HEADERS ARE APPROVED. APPROVED CROSS BOLTS - NEAREST TO THE CHARGER ARE REQUIRED IF NO MUFFLER IS USED. NO SUPERCHARGERS ARE ALLOWED. EXHAUST MAY NOT EXIT TO THE SIDE OF THE VEHICLE (TOWARDS THE GRANDSTAND AREA) AND MAY NOT EXIT STRAIGHT DOWN TOWARD THE TRACK. TURNOUTS ARE PERMITTED SO LONG AS APPROVED CROSS BOLTS ARE IN PLACE WITHIN THE EXHAUST SYSTEM. ENGINE SWAPS BETWEEN MANUFACTURERS ARE NOT PERMITTED. DUALLIES USING GASOLINE AS FUEL AND/OR A STREET LICENSED HEAVY GASOLINE TRUCK THAT CANNOT MAKE WEIGHT FOR THE STREET LICENSED GASOLINE CLASS MAY ENTER WITH PERMISSION OF THE HEAD OFFICIAL. THIS IS A COURTESY EXTENDED TO LOCAL COMPETITORS THAT WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR HOME TOWN EVENT AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS OPENING THE CLASS TO GASOLINE TRUCKS. NO SOLID SUSPENSIONS ARE PERMITTED. SUSPENSION MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO INCHES OF MOVEMENT AT ALL TIMES. NO BLOCKS ARE ALLOWED BETWEEN AXLE HOUSING AND TRUCK FRAME THAT WOULD RESTRICT THE NECESSARY TWO INCHES OF MOVEMENT. LIFT KITS ARE ACCEPTABLE. TRUCK MUST BE STOCK IN APPEARANCE. FLOOR IN BED MUST BE SOLID. THE WHEELBASE MAY NOT BE CHANGED FROM ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER. WOODEN FLATBEDS ARE PERMITTED WITH SINGLE REAR WHEELS. TRANSMISSION & TRANSFER CASE MUST BE O.E.M. AND AVAILABLE IN ONE TON (OR SMALLER) PICK-UP TRUCKS. DRIVER’S WINDOW MUST BE ROLLED COMPLETELY UP WHILE COMPETING. DRIVERS ARE URGED TO WEAR A SEATBELT or SHOULDER HARNESS AND A MOTOR SPORT TYPE HELMET WHEN HOOKED TO THE SLED. NO PASSENGERS ARE PERMITTED AT ANY TIME. NO MEMBERSHIPS ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO ENTER AND PARTICIPATE. A CURRENT AND VALID 2007 MEMBERSHIP WITH THE USA-EAST SANCTIONING BODY IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO COLLECT POINTS. |
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Thanks for your help, so i have to have 2 inches of rear suspension travel? And then i can block it? Am i understabding it right? Thanks.
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06 ctd,lb,qc,dually,48re,red,all isspro guages,mrbp exhaust. 95 ctd,lb,sc,5 sp,5" stack,8" lift,38" tires, gonna throw some hp this things way. |
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you can have more if need to if you would like but pretty much you don't want your suspension to move at all so i would say you can block it the rule are off of full pull productions this is the organization i am building my truck for in PA but most of the pulling rules i have looked up are very similar |
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Loose the lift. Upgrade the rear driveline to 1480 series universal and yokes and then upgrade the front to the 1410's. Solid rear suspension if allowed. BBD
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I am not sure if napa sells them, i bought some but cant remember where i got it from. If you do it you have to get your drive shafts modified to accept the bigger u-joints. So try a local driveshaft shop.
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06 ctd,lb,qc,dually,48re,red,all isspro guages,mrbp exhaust. 95 ctd,lb,sc,5 sp,5" stack,8" lift,38" tires, gonna throw some hp this things way. |
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Your in pennsylvania, do a search for greensburg machine
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the lift kit wont make it bounce i have a 4 inch and my buddy has a 7 inch we pulled at three diffrent pulls this year no problems with bounce he has been pulling for the last four years with a lift
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06 Flame Red 4x4 quad cab sb,30% tint,step bars,Recon clear cab lights,third brake light,Fass,Bully Dog,straight pipe,Superlift,35bfgs,isspro gauges,tst,ats flex plate,ats torque converter,full built trans,Van Aaken,more to come,Auburn IN |
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