putting Cummins in 2003 Ford, HELP

Andrew Allen · 11-05-2009, 11:18 PM

here is the truck im going to buy as soon as mine sells, it has a melted 6.0 with a 6 speed manual, what all is going to be involved in puttin a common rail into it? i would LIKE to put an automatic in it! is that possible or would that be too hard? also which transfercase should i use, the one already in the ford, or get one out of a dodge to go with the motor and trans? what all needs to be done with the wiring harness, is there a way to use at least some of the factory ford gauges? i want to make this a clean swap with a common rail and auto, will that be too hard? or should i just get a cummins that has an ecm and harness for a manual and reuse the 6 speed thats already in the ford?

Thanks,
Andrew

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JakeDiesel · 11-06-2009, 08:47 AM

your best bet would be to get a donor truck so that u have everything. the easiest thing would be to keep the manual. putting the auto is possible. depending on how u hook it up will be very diddcult. If you want the shifter on the column u will need to install a steering column out of and auto, or i think that u might be able to buy a ratchet shifter for it.

I would go to destroked get and adapter plate for ur zf6 and bolt the cummins to that. Alot less headache. my $.02

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Andrew Allen · 11-06-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeDiesel

your best bet would be to get a donor truck so that u have everything. the easiest thing would be to keep the manual. putting the auto is possible. depending on how u hook it up will be very diddcult. If you want the shifter on the column u will need to install a steering column out of and auto, or i think that u might be able to buy a ratchet shifter for it.

I would go to destroked get and adapter plate for ur zf6 and bolt the cummins to that. Alot less headache. my $.02

well i wont need the truck for a while for as i can walk everywhere i need to go at school, but whats a better trans, the ford 6 speed, or the NV5600?

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JakeDiesel · 11-06-2009, 06:32 PM

i say the nv5600 is a better trans. Though a friend of mine has a zf6 with a 5.9 bolted to it with 600hp and seems to be holding fine so far. before the 5.9 he had 2 powerstrokes blowup that were putting out 450hp. The only thing he has done to the trans was a dual disk clutch with pliot and throw out bearing

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Andrew Allen · 11-06-2009, 09:37 PM

scratch the project for now! truck i was lined up to buy, the guy decided to keep it! dont blame him though, a fully loaded 03 for $5,000 so im in the hunt for another 2000+ Ford with a blown motor! if anyone knows of one let me know!

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03 Dually with Smarty W/ TNT, FASS 150/150, Stage 1 CP3, K&N, 6 speed W/ Prototype Single Disk Feramic Clutch, Boost Elbow, 2" leveling kit, 295/70/r17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, A-Pillar Triple Gauge pod

JakeDiesel · 11-07-2009, 03:58 PM

keep ur eyes open not hard to come by

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***Jcard*** · 11-07-2009, 09:17 PM

I had a nv56 for 130,000 miles in my 04 dodge, it was my favorite manual tranny and I have had a couple zf six speeds. I am using one now in my 08 550.

I have a 2000 ford short crew and a 2005 short crew I will sell, 05 has been wrecked, and the 2000 has miles on it. I have a core 2007 5.9 to help fab the mounts and both trucks have automatic trannys.
I dont have time to to the swap right now.

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08 5500 single cab 4x auto
PTO hydraulic wormdrive tulsa winch. tailroll and ginpoles,
and coulple other brand 550 trucks.

Andrew Allen · 11-08-2009, 02:23 AM

pics of the wrecked 05! ;-)

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11-05-2009, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Andrew Allen Diesel Freak Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marshall, MI Posts: 912 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Andrew Allen's Truck Pics	putting Cummins in 2003 Ford, HELP here is the truck im going to buy as soon as mine sells, it has a melted 6.0 with a 6 speed manual, what all is going to be involved in puttin a common rail into it? i would LIKE to put an automatic in it! is that possible or would that be too hard? also which transfercase should i use, the one already in the ford, or get one out of a dodge to go with the motor and trans? what all needs to be done with the wiring harness, is there a way to use at least some of the factory ford gauges? i want to make this a clean swap with a common rail and auto, will that be too hard? or should i just get a cummins that has an ecm and harness for a manual and reuse the 6 speed thats already in the ford? Thanks, Andrew __________________ 03 Dually with Smarty W/ TNT, FASS 150/150, Stage 1 CP3, K&N, 6 speed W/ Prototype Single Disk Feramic Clutch, Boost Elbow, 2" leveling kit, 295/70/r17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, A-Pillar Triple Gauge pod

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11-06-2009, 08:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
JakeDiesel Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts JakeDiesel's Truck Pics	your best bet would be to get a donor truck so that u have everything. the easiest thing would be to keep the manual. putting the auto is possible. depending on how u hook it up will be very diddcult. If you want the shifter on the column u will need to install a steering column out of and auto, or i think that u might be able to buy a ratchet shifter for it. I would go to destroked get and adapter plate for ur zf6 and bolt the cummins to that. Alot less headache. my $.02 __________________ 94 Dodge 1500 black regular cab 2wd powered by a 2005 Cummins 3.9 4BTAA 27mpg (Friends) 95 Dodge 2500 4x4 boost elbow (35psi) #6 fuel plate http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/cu...ics-truck.html

11-06-2009, 06:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
JakeDiesel Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts JakeDiesel's Truck Pics	i say the nv5600 is a better trans. Though a friend of mine has a zf6 with a 5.9 bolted to it with 600hp and seems to be holding fine so far. before the 5.9 he had 2 powerstrokes blowup that were putting out 450hp. The only thing he has done to the trans was a dual disk clutch with pliot and throw out bearing __________________ 94 Dodge 1500 black regular cab 2wd powered by a 2005 Cummins 3.9 4BTAA 27mpg (Friends) 95 Dodge 2500 4x4 boost elbow (35psi) #6 fuel plate http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/cu...ics-truck.html

11-06-2009, 09:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
Andrew Allen Diesel Freak Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marshall, MI Posts: 912 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Andrew Allen's Truck Pics	scratch the project for now! truck i was lined up to buy, the guy decided to keep it! dont blame him though, a fully loaded 03 for $5,000 so im in the hunt for another 2000+ Ford with a blown motor! if anyone knows of one let me know! __________________ 03 Dually with Smarty W/ TNT, FASS 150/150, Stage 1 CP3, K&N, 6 speed W/ Prototype Single Disk Feramic Clutch, Boost Elbow, 2" leveling kit, 295/70/r17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, A-Pillar Triple Gauge pod

11-07-2009, 03:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
JakeDiesel Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts JakeDiesel's Truck Pics	keep ur eyes open not hard to come by __________________ 94 Dodge 1500 black regular cab 2wd powered by a 2005 Cummins 3.9 4BTAA 27mpg (Friends) 95 Dodge 2500 4x4 boost elbow (35psi) #6 fuel plate http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/cu...ics-truck.html

11-07-2009, 09:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Jcard* Cummins Fanatic Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 124 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Jcard's Truck Pics	I had a nv56 for 130,000 miles in my 04 dodge, it was my favorite manual tranny and I have had a couple zf six speeds. I am using one now in my 08 550. I have a 2000 ford short crew and a 2005 short crew I will sell, 05 has been wrecked, and the 2000 has miles on it. I have a core 2007 5.9 to help fab the mounts and both trucks have automatic trannys. I dont have time to to the swap right now. __________________ 08 5500 single cab 4x auto PTO hydraulic wormdrive tulsa winch. tailroll and ginpoles, and coulple other brand 550 trucks.

11-08-2009, 02:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Andrew Allen Diesel Freak Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marshall, MI Posts: 912 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Andrew Allen's Truck Pics	pics of the wrecked 05! ;-) __________________ 03 Dually with Smarty W/ TNT, FASS 150/150, Stage 1 CP3, K&N, 6 speed W/ Prototype Single Disk Feramic Clutch, Boost Elbow, 2" leveling kit, 295/70/r17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, A-Pillar Triple Gauge pod