California diese smog requirments!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS!!!

[redmonster_2005]

Originally Posted by dezl

Hey fellas another fella from dieselplace (dmax website) emailed this to me earlier. The info is about Hien T. Tran, in case you dont know who he is i will give you a bit of info. He started working with ARB 2003, in 2007 he stated that he earned a PHD from UC Davis and signed under penalty of perjury that the above info is true, which in fact it was not. He actually earned an online PHD from Thornhill.

Also, the kicker. This guy was the lead researcher in ARB's testing!!! In other words this guys findings are partly responsible for us having to smog our trucks!


http://static.tbc.zope.net/newsroom/pdfs/aircreds.pdf


Read for yourself.

i thought it was pretty bad that he lied and they are still using his test results to pass this law.

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[landworks0216]

Ive been talking to some people about it and the issue with them imposing the air regs for big trucks is that its not economically feasible, and right now the last thing we need is a bunch of trucking companies put out of business. so personally im not gonna worry until i get my smog notice in the mail

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[redmonster_2005]

Originally Posted by landworks0216

Ive been talking to some people about it and the issue with them imposing the air regs for big trucks is that its not economically feasible, and right now the last thing we need is a bunch of trucking companies put out of business. so personally im not gonna worry until i get my smog notice in the mail

If you wait that long its too late. we need to squash this thing NOW. Just because the econaomy is in the tank doesn't mean they wont make it so.

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[SmokinTheHippies]

Originally Posted by firemansdiesel

I watched on Fox 2 (SF) acouple nights back, they had a short blurb on the emissions and diesels in California. CARB relize that the prop that got passed back in 2006, the funds ran out (unavailable now) for the OTR trucks to get DPF's installed on thier trucks. To meet the 2010 emissions.

CARB wants companies like Walmart, Target, etc.., to help pay for the independent truckers emission components who hual thier merchandise. California (CARB) is unprepared for thier own emissions..lol

good luck on them trying to convince companies in this economy to pay to outfit trucks that dont belong to them.

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[firemansdiesel]

Originally Posted by SmokinTheHippies

good luck on them trying to convince companies in this economy to pay to outfit trucks that dont belong to them.

Exactly..........

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[dezl]

Originally Posted by redmonster_2005

i thought it was pretty bad that he lied and they are still using his test results to pass this law.

Also I hav read that ARB would allow any outsiders to to review the research that Tran did to make sure everything was true and correct.

Originally Posted by landworks0216

Ive been talking to some people about it and the issue with them imposing the air regs for big trucks is that its not economically feasible, and right now the last thing we need is a bunch of trucking companies put out of business. so personally im not gonna worry until i get my smog notice in the mail

Please dont take this the wrong way but people with your attitude is why ARB and other goverment agencies rule us. Your just going to wait til you get your smog notice in the mail? 1/1/10, it starts bud!

Originally Posted by redmonster_2005

If you wait that long its too late. we need to squash this thing NOW. Just because the econaomy is in the tank doesn't mean they wont make it so.

Exactly, you guys if you want to help write/email your local politicians! Ask them to appose the bill again, they are re-voting on it!

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[07Bighorn]

Originally Posted by dezl

Exactly, you guys if you want to help write/email your local politicians! Ask them to appose the bill again, they are re-voting on it!

Will do again!!! and forward this back through the chain of people

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[DLo]

Alright, I'm still new to the diesel world but I finally had the chance to read this thread from page 1 until the last post. Now I'm lost and I can't find the page of who to email to tell them that they should oppose the bill. Since this would also be my first time trying to email a representative, what exactly do you guys write? Since the passing of the ammo bill/law and now this, I've had it. I would move but my entire family is here and I refuse to leave without them. I'm sick of the politics of this state and became apathetic for a while after seeing stuff happen regardless of whether or not we wanted it to, but this is just too much.

Dezl, if there's still a petition going on, sign me up. I have quite a few friends who own diesels - I can ask them too.

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[dezl]

Originally Posted by 07Bighorn

Will do again!!! and forward this back through the chain of people

Since nobody else will say it I will, Thank YOU!

Originally Posted by DLo

Alright, I'm still new to the diesel world but I finally had the chance to read this thread from page 1 until the last post. Now I'm lost and I can't find the page of who to email to tell them that they should oppose the bill. Since this would also be my first time trying to email a representative, what exactly do you guys write? Since the passing of the ammo bill/law and now this, I've had it. I would move but my entire family is here and I refuse to leave without them. I'm sick of the politics of this state and became apathetic for a while after seeing stuff happen regardless of whether or not we wanted it to, but this is just too much.

Dezl, if there's still a petition going on, sign me up. I have quite a few friends who own diesels - I can ask them too.

Hey Dlo, First off welcome to the world of diesels!

Secondly where are you located? I see it says bay area but well its a rather large area. I would first off suggest emailing your local politician, ask them what they think about the bill, if they appose it then ask them to sign it saying that they do appose it. Lastly you can contact Betty Plowman, she is a rep for CDTOA. You can check out their website to see what they do, her email addy is:

betty@cdtoa.org

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[DLo]

Thanks for the welcome. I'm located in the San jose area. I'll go ahead and look up my local representative, and send Betty an email.

Is your petition still going on, or has that kind of become a lost cause?

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[dezl]

Originally Posted by DLo

Thanks for the welcome. I'm located in the San jose area. I'll go ahead and look up my local representative, and send Betty an email.

Is your petition still going on, or has that kind of become a lost cause?

its some what of a lost cause at this point, I tried using an online petition and was later informed that it would need to be live signatures.

I tried to talk with some local shops about setting up a table during dyno days and what not to get signature and was turned down because it would bring "negative attention" to them. Doesn't make sense to me.

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69 Chevelle, BB 427, Ported and polished heads, Custom cam, 10.5/1 compression, Forged TRW pistons, 1.7 Roller rockers, Holley 750 double pumper, Stage 2 TH 400, 12 bolt rear end

[BigFred]

I dont see how it would bring negative attention. You would think they would be willing to help keep our trucks comeing to there door step. When are they supposed to re vote? I havent kept up on this lately as ive been following the gun laws. Im about ready to move outta here.

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