BD vs Smarty Jr

consumed · 07-12-2008, 11:05 PM

I was 98% sure of getting a Smarty Jr to bump up the TQ and get better MPG for towing my 10k TT, but a buddy of mine who really like your products said to do a little research on BD, and he is the lead TC of a huge Ford (sorry guys) dealer here in SA. The main reason I lean to the Smarty is I have an 07 with a 5.9 and I like the fact that is will not erase the codes when I have to take it back to the dealer ( like I do this week), and a lot of good feedback form others who have it.

Can you give me any comparisons to do a BD vs Smarty?

Last edited by consumed : 07-12-2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason: Change title

**dave@BD Power** · 07-14-2008, 09:46 AM

When you say comapred to a BD I am not sure if you mean the BD X-Tuner, Ultra X-Tuner, BD X-Power or BD X-Power Plus.

For comparison I am going to use the X-Power and X-Power Plus.

The Smarty is a great product because it allows the ability to turn the timing off which makes it great for stacking or a stand alone product.

The main comparison between the The X-Powers and Smarty is that they both products have a "no timing" option so are both good for stacking with another product. The X-Power is a module/chip so can be stacked with a tuner while the Smarty is a tuner so can be stacked with a module/chip.

For a stand alone BD product I would recommend the 180HP X-Power "Plus" instead of the X-Power (non plus) or BD X-Tuner.

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BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power
BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust
BD Max Flow Lift Pump
Ice Box Cold Air Intake

Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave
www.dieselperformance.com
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**Bob Wagner** · 07-14-2008, 11:06 AM

The Smarty Jr. does offer timing on all 3 hp levels which decrease egt's and improve fuel economy.

The Smarty Jr. is also 100% undetectable once your truck is returned to stock software.

The Smarty Jr comes with a 30 day money back guarantee.

And a Revolution software option will be offered in the near future.

Fully updatable via home computer.

Thanks

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**dave@BD Power** · 07-14-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Wagner

The Smarty Jr. does offer timing on all 3 hp levels which decrease egt's and improve fuel economy.

The Smarty Jr. is also 100% undetectable once your truck is returned to stock software.

The Smarty Jr comes with a 30 day money back guarantee.

And a Revolution software option will be offered in the near future.

Fully updatable via home computer.

Thanks

The Smarty JR would be more comparable to our X-Tuners

-Internet Upgradable
-No Foot Print
-Cooler EGT's and better Fuel economy though timing increase.
-ALL BD products come with a 30 day money back.

__________________
03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab
BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power
BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust
BD Max Flow Lift Pump
Ice Box Cold Air Intake

Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave
www.dieselperformance.com
dave@bd-power.com

FullOutPwr · 07-14-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave@BD Power

-ALL BD products come with a 30 day money back.

This is one reason I love your products.

surfram · 07-15-2008, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave@BD Power

When you say comapred to a BD I am not sure if you mean the BD X-Tuner, Ultra X-Tuner, BD X-Power or BD X-Power Plus.

For comparison I am going to use the X-Power and X-Power Plus.

The Smarty is a great product because it allows the ability to turn the timing off which makes it great for stacking or a stand alone product.

The main comparison between the The X-Powers and Smarty is that they both products have a "no timing" option so are both good for stacking with another product. The X-Power is a module/chip so can be stacked with a tuner while the Smarty is a tuner so can be stacked with a module/chip.

For a stand alone BD product I would recommend the 180HP X-Power "Plus" instead of the X-Power (non plus) or BD X-Tuner.

What are the specs on the new Ultra X-Tuner?

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**dave@BD Power** · 07-15-2008, 09:45 AM

Dodge 2003-2007
140hp-280ftlbs

Dodge 2007.5-2008
115hp-250ftlbs

Both have Tires Size Calibrator feature.

__________________
03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab
BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power
BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust
BD Max Flow Lift Pump
Ice Box Cold Air Intake

Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave
www.dieselperformance.com
dave@bd-power.com

FullOutPwr · 07-15-2008, 10:34 AM

Is it just me... or can I NOT get to your shopping cart to look at prices/purchase? It always says its forwarding me and nothing happens.

***BBRam*** · 07-15-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullOutPwr

Is it just me... or can I NOT get to your shopping cart to look at prices/purchase? It always says its forwarding me and nothing happens.

Same here.

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**dave@BD Power** · 07-15-2008, 10:47 AM

I just tried it and the same thing happened, so I called the IT guy down and when he was standing here guess what... it worked 10 out of 10 times.

Try it now guys

__________________
03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab
BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power
BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust
BD Max Flow Lift Pump
Ice Box Cold Air Intake

Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave
www.dieselperformance.com
dave@bd-power.com

***BBRam*** · 07-15-2008, 10:59 AM

Fire Him, still not right.

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03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

**dave@BD Power** · 07-15-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBRam

Fire Him, still not right.

It is working on our end but I have him looking into it, maybe we are not selling to the US anymore

__________________
03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab
BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power
BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust
BD Max Flow Lift Pump
Ice Box Cold Air Intake

Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave
www.dieselperformance.com
dave@bd-power.com

07-12-2008, 11:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
consumed Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 24 consumed's Truck Pics	BD vs Smarty Jr I was 98% sure of getting a Smarty Jr to bump up the TQ and get better MPG for towing my 10k TT, but a buddy of mine who really like your products said to do a little research on BD, and he is the lead TC of a huge Ford (sorry guys) dealer here in SA. The main reason I lean to the Smarty is I have an 07 with a 5.9 and I like the fact that is will not erase the codes when I have to take it back to the dealer ( like I do this week), and a lot of good feedback form others who have it. Can you give me any comparisons to do a BD vs Smarty? Last edited by consumed : 07-12-2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason: Change title

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07-14-2008, 09:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
dave@BD Power Sales Rep For BD Power Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 1,297 dave@BD Power's Truck Pics	When you say comapred to a BD I am not sure if you mean the BD X-Tuner, Ultra X-Tuner, BD X-Power or BD X-Power Plus. For comparison I am going to use the X-Power and X-Power Plus. The Smarty is a great product because it allows the ability to turn the timing off which makes it great for stacking or a stand alone product. The main comparison between the The X-Powers and Smarty is that they both products have a "no timing" option so are both good for stacking with another product. The X-Power is a module/chip so can be stacked with a tuner while the Smarty is a tuner so can be stacked with a module/chip. For a stand alone BD product I would recommend the 180HP X-Power "Plus" instead of the X-Power (non plus) or BD X-Tuner. __________________ 03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust BD Max Flow Lift Pump Ice Box Cold Air Intake Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave www.dieselperformance.com dave@bd-power.com

07-14-2008, 11:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bob Wagner Wagner & Associates Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,154 Bob Wagner's Truck Pics	The Smarty Jr. does offer timing on all 3 hp levels which decrease egt's and improve fuel economy. The Smarty Jr. is also 100% undetectable once your truck is returned to stock software. The Smarty Jr comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. And a Revolution software option will be offered in the near future. Fully updatable via home computer. Thanks __________________ http://smartypower.com Toll Free 1-888-225-7637

07-15-2008, 09:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
dave@BD Power Sales Rep For BD Power Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 1,297 dave@BD Power's Truck Pics	Dodge 2003-2007 140hp-280ftlbs Dodge 2007.5-2008 115hp-250ftlbs Both have Tires Size Calibrator feature. __________________ 03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust BD Max Flow Lift Pump Ice Box Cold Air Intake Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave www.dieselperformance.com dave@bd-power.com

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FullOutPwr Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 82 FullOutPwr's Truck Pics	Is it just me... or can I NOT get to your shopping cart to look at prices/purchase? It always says its forwarding me and nothing happens.

07-15-2008, 10:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
dave@BD Power Sales Rep For BD Power Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 1,297 dave@BD Power's Truck Pics	I just tried it and the same thing happened, so I called the IT guy down and when he was standing here guess what... it worked 10 out of 10 times. Try it now guys __________________ 03 Dodge Ram 2500 2WD Reg Cab BD X-Tuner stacked with BD X-Power BD Super-B Turbo & Dual X-Hale Exhaust BD Max Flow Lift Pump Ice Box Cold Air Intake Toll Free 800-887-5030 ext 105 Dave www.dieselperformance.com dave@bd-power.com

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