Arizona law on smoke?

[Begle1]

Anybody here have any experience with the Arizona law on smoke?


California law allows a groovy ten seconds of any opacity, and it's only a $100 fix-it ticket otherwise.

Arizona law, from what I see, is a lot more vague.

Originally Posted by Section 28-955

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C. The engine and power mechanism of a motor vehicle shall be equipped and adjusted to prevent the escape of excessive fumes or smoke.
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E. A person who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of at least one hundred dollars.
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Arizona Revised Statutes

So Arizona doesn't bother to define time limits, altitude limits, or opacity limits... We just can't make "excessive" smoke, lest it's "at least" $100.

Anybody have any experience with smoke tickets? Are they even fixable tickets here??

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[Gixxer_750]

i would like to get some clarification as well...about a month ago a car was tailgating me so i laid down a cloud and turns out it was an undercover cop...when the smoke cleared he was still there and he was calling in my plate (or so im guessing)...i turned at the first street i found and he turned with me but i kept going around in circles around the neighborhood and he finally left...id say that law leaves a lot to the cops descression (spelling?) so it might just depend on how they feel that day.

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[nfkfirefighter]

yeap... i think its all on what they feel like...

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[Steveo24]

Pretty much is all about the person, or police officer that see's it, and what type of mood there in. I lived in Tucson/Vail area for the better part of 21 years, and in that time, that's what I was witness to. It used to be that another person driving down the road (civilian) could report your vehicle for excessive emissions if it did smoke for longer than 10 seconds. But I am pretty sure the actual law in writing is wide open, and it is not clarical enough. I got harassed for years about excessive noise, liscense plate lights being out, and the good old tire tread check by DPS. Almost always beat them if I just went to court, the officer almost always didn't show up.
I suppose it didn't help that I used to get alot of minor consuming tickets either THe sheriffs department really liked me!!!

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[Morgan]

Ive been pulled over in Tucson half a dozen times or so, they run the plates, and ask if its a diesel, and then I go on my merry way. Theres not really anything they can do. I was pulled over by the U of A and the cop told me my muffler was not in working order and my truck was smoking, I just chuckled.

The way that the ordinance is written is "They understand that diesels smoke under accleration and heavy load, but should not smoke when crusing speed is reached"

Ive layed down some big time smoke when people wont let me over, but then again I had to acclerate to get over.

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[nfkfirefighter]

im right with you on that one... morgan do you live in tucson.. if so we have to meet up sometime...

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[Morgan]

Originally Posted by nfkfirefighter

im right with you on that one... morgan do you live in tucson.. if so we have to meet up sometime...

Yeah I drive the red Gen 2 you saw by the U of A.

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[shelbuilt]

im not sure the law but when my hx35 was headed south a big truck was head east on ten over litchfield and stopped traffic with so much smoke trying to run in the fast lane i felt obligatted to go from 4th to 6th then to the floor head west over dysart and we blacked out the whole half mile stretch lol no cops around i guess but my dad was behind said traffic stopped for about 30 sec to let the smoke settle

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[shelbuilt]

any of you guys smoke out big trucks that run in the fast lane??? I do

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[Begle1]

Originally Posted by shelbuilt

im not sure the law but when my hx35 was headed south a big truck was head east on ten over litchfield and stopped traffic with so much smoke trying to run in the fast lane i felt obligatted to go from 4th to 6th then to the floor head west over dysart and we blacked out the whole half mile stretch lol no cops around i guess but my dad was behind said traffic stopped for about 30 sec to let the smoke settle

The Diesel community at large thanks you for your responsibility.

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[Steveo24]

Originally Posted by Begle1

The Diesel community at large thanks you for your responsibility.

I second that notion

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[shelbuilt]

well i can promise you one thing i dont go around smoking people out it was just a bad day halfly because i lost my turbo about 30 minutes before i am not irresponisble with who smoken ya my truck can flat roll coal but i also pride myself on getting 26 miles to the gallon and can drive with out blowing any smoke at all with a single trubo with a 74mm compressor wheel its a hybrid and at wot at 60+ psi my smoke is clean is yours? I appologize if i made myself sound like a dumb kid but reasonably my post went with the thread and as i mentioned my dad was behind me he almosted beat my @ss for that so if its any conslilation i dont need the gilt i have been repermaned for my stupidity with all due respect the post is to reasure the diesel community i leave my heavy foot to the track or the farm and have grown up I am not ill towards anyone and do not want to start any un easyness

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