Poor mans propane setup, help needed

[patracy]

Originally Posted by Mopar1973Man

Figures you would snag pics from my web site...

But this has been a very interesting thread and I've considered adding propane a few times but always worried about doing damage to the engine...

As for propane it boils at about -40*F so there is no need to worry about it coming out liquid...

Propane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey now, I gave credit where credit was due.

Honestly though I've not been playing with it anymore. I've got my truck running on dewatered/filtered WVO. However I'll keep it on the truck. I'm thinking another reason why my truck started to pick up more mileage is by the propane cleaning the combustion chambers/injectors of any deposits. It'll be a good idea to keep doing that every now and then with the WVO. (Course I'm still going to dump 1-2gallons of diesel in my WVO tank as well.)

I've got to help a friend install this on his powerstroke as well.

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Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[rufushusky]

Originally Posted by patracy

I've got to help a friend install this on his powerstroke as well.

Man this thread has me looking into it too!


By the way how did the wife like the Duramax Suburbans??

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[patracy]

Originally Posted by rufushusky

Man this thread has me looking into it too!


By the way how did the wife like the Duramax Suburbans??

It's not that much It's the "poor mans" remember?

Xnay on Dmaxnay.

"It's too big too"

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Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[Mopar1973Man]

After reading over the propane and its burn characteristics I notice no matter what when propane is burned you'll get water as a side effect of burning propane. So the water is you cleaning agent for the carbon build up and such...

Like when I poped a head gasket on the Goldwing the cylinder that got hit with the coolant was nearly spotless...

As for my comment I had to yank your chain a bit there...

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[tigerfalcon50]

Love this thread but Patracy, I think the most efficient way to measure efficiency would be to calculate cost/mile with and without the addition of propane. That way the number can be expanded up to any number of miles. Also, it does not reduce fuel consumption, in fact, from what you said, it probably actually increases it a little because it cleans out the injectors a little bit giving them a better chance to spray. Keep up the good work though man. I, along with everyone else, appreciates your knowledge...oh, and testing this moving bomb out on your truck. takes a crazy SOB to do this but hey, Patton thought he was reincarnated. I'll take the risk.

Originally Posted by patracy

Well if it makes you happy then better to you. It's a very flaky number if you ask me. I view the propane as a power adder/additive. Do you factor your mpg on a tank of fuel with a quart extra of additive, or do you do it by total cost? Here's the breakdown.

Let's break down the numbers on traveling 400 miles. Basing 18mpg on diesel.

400 /18 = 22.222 gallons of diesel

22.222 at $4.75 a gallon = $105.56 to travel 400 miles.

We know it burns a tank of propane in 400 miles. So we've got a $16 cost to factor in. HOWEVER, we get 29mpg on diesel during that span. So our diesel consumption is reduced.

400 /29 = 13.8 gallons of diesel

13.8 at $4.75 a gallon = $65.55

$65.55 + $16 = $81.55

$105.56 - $81.55 = $24.01 saved.

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[Cummins6speed]

Originally Posted by dezl

Its a fat ticket, at least in california

What isn't a fat ticket in Ca?

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[tigerfalcon50]

bump...anything been going on with you guys running propane??

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[patracy]

Truck is in the shop. (unrelated, getting trans stuff put in)

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Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[j-fox]

See following post.

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Last edited by j-fox : 08-15-2008 at 09:53 AM.

[j-fox]

Originally Posted by Mopar1973Man

Figures you would snag pics from my web site...

But this has been a very interesting thread and I've considered adding propane a few times but always worried about doing damage to the engine...

As for propane it boils at about -40*F so there is no need to worry about it coming out liquid...

Propane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is not true. If liquid LP splashes to the outlet and gets into the regulator it can stay liquid until the manifold and cause damage or run away. Just be careful.

[patracy]

Originally Posted by j-fox

This is not true. If liquid LP splashes to the outlet and gets into the regulator it can stay liquid until the manifold and cause damage or run away. Just be careful.

I doubt that it'll have a chance to stay liquid for the 15ft it needs to travel before it gets to the intake...

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Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[DORKWEED]

Bump. Any new info????

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