Poor mans propane setup, help needed

[McLarenross]

Originally Posted by gfyrasng

Forget about the HHO setup, the only people who see any results are the one's selling the units.

Do you have any personal experiance with it? I have just recently built a HHO generator and saw fantastic results with the production of the gas in a very simple unit. I will make a much more efficient unit soon and try that on the truck. If you dont have any personal experiance with a product you shouldn't say it dosent work.

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2004.5 2500 4x4. Torque Tube gutted and Silencer Ring removed. Grid Heater gutted. Custom made 3" Intake Horn. Straight pipe'd. Edge Juice w/Attitude. 4" Superlift. H2 wheels w/ 315/70/17 BFGs. Smoke Switch. PROPANE!!!!

[patracy]

Ok just bought the ebay stuff you listed. Looking for a regulator now. I'm going to get them to set the hobbs switch to 4psi. What are you doing on fuel lines? I can setup hardlines for the tank-reg-solenoid. Would some of this spare 1/2" fuel hose be ok? (good to 35 or 40psi if I remember correctly, but I should only see ~4psi tops feeding through this section) Also what about the nozzle? I've got a BHAF so I'm going to have to install the tap into the tube between the filter and turbo. Here's a pic of a nozzle someone else built I was thinking about...

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1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. ADRENALINE/pulse BHAF, full set of gauges, FP light, Holley Blue pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, 3" glasspack, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, Heated WVO setup, poor man's 'pane setup, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan.
Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[wjbell]

One thing I was just reading was that propane along with a timing box is a no-no. The propane itself advances the timing, then if you have a timing box you could have too much timing and that could be disastrous (so I've read)

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[patracy]

Originally Posted by wjbell

One thing I was just reading was that propane along with a timing box is a no-no. The propane itself advances the timing, then if you have a timing box you could have too much timing and that could be disastrous (so I've read)

Good point. I know my XZT+ does some timing. Should I only use the propane setup with the XZT+ off?

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1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. ADRENALINE/pulse BHAF, full set of gauges, FP light, Holley Blue pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, 3" glasspack, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, Heated WVO setup, poor man's 'pane setup, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan.
Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[wjbell]

Originally Posted by patracy

Good point. I know my XZT+ does some timing. Should I only use the propane setup with the XZT+ off?

I would turn it off or unplug it just to make sure while experimenting with the propane. I'm sure others that know more will chime in with advice but that's just what I would do. I can't afford a blown head gasket or worse trying to save a couple bucks at the pump.

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[McLarenross]

Originally Posted by patracy

Ok just bought the ebay stuff you listed. Looking for a regulator now. I'm going to get them to set the hobbs switch to 4psi. What are you doing on fuel lines? I can setup hardlines for the tank-reg-solenoid. Would some of this spare 1/2" fuel hose be ok? (good to 35 or 40psi if I remember correctly, but I should only see ~4psi tops feeding through this section) Also what about the nozzle? I've got a BHAF so I'm going to have to install the tap into the tube between the filter and turbo. Here's a pic of a nozzle someone else built I was thinking about...

Im still not sure what Im gonna do with the nozzle actually. I have a lathe so I made a special part that attached to the air box through a 1/2" hole I drilled. My part has 1/8" pipe threads on the ID both inside and out of the air box. As for hose, propane has no corrosive properties or anything like that so regular air hose will work just fine. I got 20' of 1/4" air hose at Lowes for $0.27 per foot. I am gonna try my propane setup with my X2 off to begin with but will see what the gauges show when I turn it on to level 1.

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2004.5 2500 4x4. Torque Tube gutted and Silencer Ring removed. Grid Heater gutted. Custom made 3" Intake Horn. Straight pipe'd. Edge Juice w/Attitude. 4" Superlift. H2 wheels w/ 315/70/17 BFGs. Smoke Switch. PROPANE!!!!

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Last edited by McLarenross : 05-28-2008 at 11:21 AM.

[bob4x4]

Please explain to me what happens in the case of an accident where you are knocked out or for what ever reason you can not turn off the ignsw ?

Bob

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[patracy]

Originally Posted by bob4x4

Please explain to me what happens in the case of an accident where you are knocked out or for what ever reason you can not turn off the ignsw ?

Bob

With the hobbs switch the system doesn't activate unless there's more than 4psi of boost. So it shouldn't be an issue. Course if you're knocked out with your foot on the peddle, you've got other issues coming.

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1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. ADRENALINE/pulse BHAF, full set of gauges, FP light, Holley Blue pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, 3" glasspack, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, Heated WVO setup, poor man's 'pane setup, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan.
Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[flubyux2]

im signing up to follow this one... id like to see how it turns out and wht kind of results you realize. also, post up what tank you decide to use... if its going to be a normal BBQ tank or some kinda slim line camper tank under the bed or whatever.

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[patracy]

Normal BBQ tank. Just going to hide it in the toolbox.

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1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. ADRENALINE/pulse BHAF, full set of gauges, FP light, Holley Blue pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, 3" glasspack, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, Heated WVO setup, poor man's 'pane setup, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan.
Parts to come: 150hp sticks, turbo, and bigger exhaust.

[McLarenross]

Yea. If done this way the system is automatic and wont work unless you are seeing the amount of boost you set the switch to activate at. Mine is at 2psi. Im just using a BBQ tank for now but i will go ahead and get a under truck mounted propane tank later once I have completed the testing.

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2004.5 2500 4x4. Torque Tube gutted and Silencer Ring removed. Grid Heater gutted. Custom made 3" Intake Horn. Straight pipe'd. Edge Juice w/Attitude. 4" Superlift. H2 wheels w/ 315/70/17 BFGs. Smoke Switch. PROPANE!!!!

[Begle1]

For a science project in high school, I ran my truck on a smog dyno with a propane tank putting propane directly into the air intake.

Since propane is a relatively low-pressure gas, I don't see why people use nozzles and try to adjust flow rate with nozzle size. I just used a 0-5 LPM flow meter on my jury rig.

It felt like it added a lot of power on my truck, but that was back when it was stock. And 5 liters per minute was really, really putting out a lot of unburned hydrocarbons. Made your eyes sting like a nitro car with a dead cylinder...

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