Used engine oil.

**Austin The DieselTech** · 05-26-2008, 12:51 PM

Just wondering if anyone has used or heard of using used engine oil as a fuel. A buddy of mine got this idea from another guy that was running it in his PS. The mixture is 75% used engine oil, 20% diesel, and 5% gasoline. He has been slowly phasing it in and running it in his tractors and says that he hasn't noticed any performance issues. Any other thought on this??? He asked me to get some input about it before he goes and puts it in his 04. Oh and he is filtering the mix with 2 1 micron filters so it is very clean. Thanks.

Austin

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ynots57 · 05-26-2008, 01:35 PM

even with 2 micron filter i wouldnt use used oil in an electronically injected engine

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**Austin The DieselTech** · 05-26-2008, 01:38 PM

He wants to find an old Dodge to run it through just to see what it does and if it toasts the engine no loss. Just and excuse to build a pulling truck.

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DRFTR · 05-26-2008, 02:30 PM

should be fun building a pulling truck.

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oldhand10 · 05-26-2008, 03:22 PM

Frankly from what you are saying, I'd be more concerned about the gasoline than the used motor oil. Ryder Truck Rentals have for many years pumped the used lubrication oil from an engine, filtered it, and blended with fuel then pumped back into the fuel tanks of the unit it came out of. Several other of the larger freight delivery companies use a small blender which injects engine lubricating oil into the fuel system, while operating. They never change the oil, just add make up at each fuel stop, and change the oil filter. Believe me when I say neither of these companies would do this if their engineers and tests from prior years were not extremely positive in results.
If someone has a means of pumping oil through a decent filtration system, then allowed it to settle, I would have no fears concerning running such oil blended with fuel, but in a 10% or less mixture.

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**Austin The DieselTech** · 05-26-2008, 11:42 PM

You'd think that the gasoline would cause a knock due to the high compression but he says that it runs normal. No knock at all.

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e-rok · 05-27-2008, 02:49 AM

my dad runs a 50/50 blend in his 97. he has a holding tank on his flatbed so he just adds it into there first, then pumps it into the truck, so it gets filtered. he hasnt had any problems yet, and I am definately looking into making a filtration setup at my house for my truck.

Home claims to be running 95% used oil in their cummins ram. but they have a pic of a 2nd gen on the main page, but they state that they have a 92.....

edit: you can also run ATF which my dad said is better because its thinner

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**CTD03** · 05-27-2008, 09:08 AM

it shows a CR truck but how bad is used motor oil if it filtered like crazy and add diesel to it

2006 Dodge 2500 crew cab 2wd: runs a 30/70 mix, 26 mpg's
2001 Dodge 2500 2wd: runs a 50/50 mix, 22 mpg's
1995 Dodge 3500 2wd: runs a 60/40 mix, 20 mpg's
1996 Volkswagen Passat TDI: runs a 60/40 mix, 50 mpg's
1994 Ford 250 ext cab 2wd: runs a 80/20 mix winter, 90/10 summer, 20 mpg's
1992 Dodge 250 ext cab 2wd: runs a 95/5 mix year round, 25 mpg's
1985 Ford F350 2wd: runs a 70/30 mix, 16 mpg's
1982 Mercedes 300SD: runs a 70/30 mix, 30 mpg's
1985 Mercedes 300 TD: runs a 80/20 mix, 31 mpg's
1985 Mercedes 300SD: runs a 80/20 mix, 29 mpg's
Misc. farm tractors, John Deere, Massey, Kubota, Case: run 80/20 mixtures year round

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pete37922 · 05-27-2008, 09:26 AM

ive heard of ppl runnin used oil in duece&1/2's !!!

thomaswhitman · 05-31-2008, 12:10 AM

Used engine oil is saturated with metal. Even though it is filtered oil, the detergent has likely turned it black with carbon deposits. It may be a good fuel for your furnace or a waste oil burner, but I don't know if it is a good choice for this beautiful new engine. I might try in a older engine say with over 300,000 miles or in a farm tractor to test it and see what the results are.

***lvin4jc*** · 05-31-2008, 12:21 AM

75% used engine oil? How often is this guy changing his oil?

Where would you get large quantities of used engine oil? Does it matter if its oil that was used in gasoline engines (because of the lower viscosity)?

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***lvin4jc*** · 05-31-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by e-rok

my dad runs a 50/50 blend in his 97. he has a holding tank on his flatbed so he just adds it into there first, then pumps it into the truck, so it gets filtered. he hasnt had any problems yet, and I am definately looking into making a filtration setup at my house for my truck.

Home claims to be running 95% used oil in their cummins ram. but they have a pic of a 2nd gen on the main page, but they state that they have a 92.....

edit: you can also run ATF which my dad said is better because its thinner

Hmmn, I checked out the site and now i'm really curious. Would this help extend the life of my VP-44? Also, is there anything special about their "unit" because if not, i'm pretty sure I can make a filter/pump for less than $1,000.00

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Austin The DieselTech Washington Chapter Pres. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Napavine, Wa Posts: 1,783 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Austin The DieselTech's Truck Pics	Used engine oil. Just wondering if anyone has used or heard of using used engine oil as a fuel. A buddy of mine got this idea from another guy that was running it in his PS. The mixture is 75% used engine oil, 20% diesel, and 5% gasoline. He has been slowly phasing it in and running it in his tractors and says that he hasn't noticed any performance issues. Any other thought on this??? He asked me to get some input about it before he goes and puts it in his 04. Oh and he is filtering the mix with 2 1 micron filters so it is very clean. Thanks. Austin __________________ Austin Jenson - Napavine, Wa 2003 2500 6Spd QCLB 4X4 AFE, DiPricols, SBC 3600 DD, Studs, Silver Bullet, Flux 2's, Bag Of Parts, Smarty, AirDog, 6" Miters, rail capped, leveled 2" on 35's, Special Thanks to Wally @ FTE Diesel, James @ Rollin Smoke Diesel, and Nick @ Low Budget Diesel Performance Washington Chapter Last edited by Austin The DieselTech : 05-26-2008 at 12:54 PM.

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05-26-2008, 01:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
ynots57 Diesel Head Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rsbg, OR Posts: 2,567 Thanks: 8 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts ynots57's Truck Pics	even with 2 micron filter i wouldnt use used oil in an electronically injected engine __________________ 05 - 2500, 4x4x6, 48re, aero, aem & other $tuff "Many times a mans mouth broke his nose"

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Austin The DieselTech Washington Chapter Pres. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Napavine, Wa Posts: 1,783 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Austin The DieselTech's Truck Pics	He wants to find an old Dodge to run it through just to see what it does and if it toasts the engine no loss. Just and excuse to build a pulling truck. __________________ Austin Jenson - Napavine, Wa 2003 2500 6Spd QCLB 4X4 AFE, DiPricols, SBC 3600 DD, Studs, Silver Bullet, Flux 2's, Bag Of Parts, Smarty, AirDog, 6" Miters, rail capped, leveled 2" on 35's, Special Thanks to Wally @ FTE Diesel, James @ Rollin Smoke Diesel, and Nick @ Low Budget Diesel Performance Washington Chapter

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DRFTR Cummins Nut Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 368 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts DRFTR's Truck Pics	should be fun building a pulling truck. __________________ 00 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 carter lp,Super B Special, mbrp 4", juice w/att, homemade intake, 33's, three trannies later---> almost enough power

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oldhand10 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West central Georgia Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts oldhand10's Truck Pics	Frankly from what you are saying, I'd be more concerned about the gasoline than the used motor oil. Ryder Truck Rentals have for many years pumped the used lubrication oil from an engine, filtered it, and blended with fuel then pumped back into the fuel tanks of the unit it came out of. Several other of the larger freight delivery companies use a small blender which injects engine lubricating oil into the fuel system, while operating. They never change the oil, just add make up at each fuel stop, and change the oil filter. Believe me when I say neither of these companies would do this if their engineers and tests from prior years were not extremely positive in results. If someone has a means of pumping oil through a decent filtration system, then allowed it to settle, I would have no fears concerning running such oil blended with fuel, but in a 10% or less mixture. __________________ :woot

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Austin The DieselTech Washington Chapter Pres. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Napavine, Wa Posts: 1,783 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Austin The DieselTech's Truck Pics	You'd think that the gasoline would cause a knock due to the high compression but he says that it runs normal. No knock at all. __________________ Austin Jenson - Napavine, Wa 2003 2500 6Spd QCLB 4X4 AFE, DiPricols, SBC 3600 DD, Studs, Silver Bullet, Flux 2's, Bag Of Parts, Smarty, AirDog, 6" Miters, rail capped, leveled 2" on 35's, Special Thanks to Wally @ FTE Diesel, James @ Rollin Smoke Diesel, and Nick @ Low Budget Diesel Performance Washington Chapter

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e-rok Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 247 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts e-rok's Truck Pics	my dad runs a 50/50 blend in his 97. he has a holding tank on his flatbed so he just adds it into there first, then pumps it into the truck, so it gets filtered. he hasnt had any problems yet, and I am definately looking into making a filtration setup at my house for my truck. Home claims to be running 95% used oil in their cummins ram. but they have a pic of a 2nd gen on the main page, but they state that they have a 92..... edit: you can also run ATF which my dad said is better because its thinner __________________ 1995 3500 DRW Ext. Cab 2wd

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CTD03 PA VP ONE TUFF O3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Western PA Posts: 2,186 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts CTD03's Truck Pics	it shows a CR truck but how bad is used motor oil if it filtered like crazy and add diesel to it 2006 Dodge 2500 crew cab 2wd: runs a 30/70 mix, 26 mpg's 2001 Dodge 2500 2wd: runs a 50/50 mix, 22 mpg's 1995 Dodge 3500 2wd: runs a 60/40 mix, 20 mpg's 1996 Volkswagen Passat TDI: runs a 60/40 mix, 50 mpg's 1994 Ford 250 ext cab 2wd: runs a 80/20 mix winter, 90/10 summer, 20 mpg's 1992 Dodge 250 ext cab 2wd: runs a 95/5 mix year round, 25 mpg's 1985 Ford F350 2wd: runs a 70/30 mix, 16 mpg's 1982 Mercedes 300SD: runs a 70/30 mix, 30 mpg's 1985 Mercedes 300 TD: runs a 80/20 mix, 31 mpg's 1985 Mercedes 300SD: runs a 80/20 mix, 29 mpg's Misc. farm tractors, John Deere, Massey, Kubota, Case: run 80/20 mixtures year round __________________ 03 5 speed sponsors http://www.valairinc.com/ http://hamiltoncams.com/

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pete37922 Cummins Nut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: No. Brunswick, NJ Posts: 430 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts pete37922's Truck Pics	ive heard of ppl runnin used oil in duece&1/2's !!!

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thomaswhitman Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts thomaswhitman's Truck Pics	Used engine oil is saturated with metal. Even though it is filtered oil, the detergent has likely turned it black with carbon deposits. It may be a good fuel for your furnace or a waste oil burner, but I don't know if it is a good choice for this beautiful new engine. I might try in a older engine say with over 300,000 miles or in a farm tractor to test it and see what the results are.

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*lvin4jc* TECH SPECIALIST Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gillette, WY Posts: 2,301 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts lvin4jc's Truck Pics	75% used engine oil? How often is this guy changing his oil? Where would you get large quantities of used engine oil? Does it matter if its oil that was used in gasoline engines (because of the lower viscosity)? __________________ 2001 4X4 Auto SLT Laramie - DANA 60/DANA 70, 3.55's - Isspro Gauges, FP, Pyro, Boost, Trans. Temp. - HBS 2" Leveling Kit - Straight Pipe - Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 CAI - Quadzilla XZT+ - Debadged - 285/75/16 Firestone Destination M/T's 230,000 miles as of 08/09 - - All Cummins all the time! Last edited by lvin4jc : 05-31-2008 at 12:32 AM.