Used engine oil.

[ISX]

I remember the days of passing people when it was stock, felt like I had a 5k lb trailer on it all the time compared to now..

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[rock mafia]

Originally Posted by Challenger

By all means then share your opinion with us,don't be shy,do you run wmo?why or why not? Is a stock 1964corvette 327 4spd fuelie convertible,black on black, lame for you as well? You know i have tried to give the odd bit of advice to people over the years on collectible muscle cars.The ones that listened did very well.The ones that didn't,now wished they did.I consider myself to have done alright as well. This truck fad thing we are going through right now reminds me of the eighties when a guy would buy a brand new black full size van put huge boots on it and have a airbrush artist paint a full size mural of a fire breathing dragon on both sides,they didn't THINK AT THAT TIME that eventually they were going to have to sell that turkey,but when they tried they found no one else shared their taste in art,for the most part you will find that lesson out with your jacked up truck with fancy wheels,smarties farties and all the rest on, is so personalized that few other than you, have your taste or want your truck,once all those add ons are passe.Have you noticed how many people are trying to buy back their stock parts on this forum?I wonder why?Have you noticed how truck prices,new and used are plummeting. I dunno I guess I just have so much to learn from guys like you and the guys burning wmo,keep up the good work

Every heard of paragraphs?

This being a cummins forum would generaly mean I'd be talking about your dodge with "no mods". Diesel hp mods are nothing new, and hardly a fad.

[Desert Dually]

Originally Posted by MikeyB

So what are you trying to say Challenger??

MikeyB

I was wondering the same thing!

Challenged, I respect the fact that you think you are only trying to help, but repeatedly bashing the whole idea of WMO as an alternative fuel isnt helping anybody learn anything, and only making yourself resented for the repetitiveness. If you dont like the idea of WMO, simply ignore those threads that deal with it and everyone, including you, will be happier.:thumbsup

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[Challenger]

Hi Mikey,ISX I'm not in that much of a hurry,Mafia good point on the paragraphs and I was answering you on your no mods comment,truck fad, even the big three are abandoning ship, you just aren't looking down the road very far or over your shoulder to the past, for playing in the bush i much prefer a dirt bike over a 8000lb truck,for performance and handling the vette, to me this thread has my attention because you rarely get the opertunity to actually watch people shoot themselves in the foot and discuss it with them, knowing you will never be able to reach them, future members might see it if they see a dissenting opinion it may give them pause to think and consider a better option,but who knows, mafia do you burn wmo?

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[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Desert Dually

I was wondering the same thing!

Challenged, I respect the fact that you think you are only trying to help, but repeatedly bashing the whole idea of WMO as an alternative fuel isnt helping anybody learn anything, and only making yourself resented for the repetitiveness. If you dont like the idea of WMO, simply ignore those threads that deal with it and everyone, including you, will be happier.:thumbsup

Dessert Dually couldn't be happier thanks, semantics and a good debate are something i enjoy. About six months ago I read an article about purifying WMO by "cracking" the oil,heating the oil to above 700 degrees to an oil vapor,thus changing it on a molecuar level and distilling it back into an uncontaminated substance in my opinion this might be how you could bring wmo back from highly contaminated substance to a clean substance on a level of diesel fuel,but there still could be viscosity issues and others,and it's probably a dangerous and technical process as well,say as opposed to bio, am interested in your thoughts on wmo and hope this helps cheer you up a little and makes you feel happier:thumbsup

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[iowacummins]

i have ran wmo in my 93 for a litttle while now adn its doin great. i run it through a screen filter first then in to a magnetic filter then a 1mic and another mag filter then pump her in to the truck. i have ran 60/40 mix but normaally around 40/60 mix. i have been able to get around 24-25mpg in town and bout the same on the highway. blows a ilttle bit more smoke but ehh thats wat ricer want anyway, right? lol

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[Desert Dually]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Dessert Dually couldn't be happier thanks, semantics and a good debate are something i enjoy. About six months ago I read an article about purifying WMO by "cracking" the oil,heating the oil to above 700 degrees to an oil vapor,thus changing it on a molecuar level and distilling it back into an uncontaminated substance in my opinion this might be how you could bring wmo back from highly contaminated substance to a clean substance on a level of diesel fuel,but there still could be viscosity issues and others,and it's probably a dangerous and technical process as well,say as opposed to bio, am interested in your thoughts on wmo and hope this helps cheer you up a little and makes you feel happier:thumbsup

thank you for the reply:thumbsup I enjoy a good debate too, and I will freely admit I have been schooled on certain things during debates. But there is a way to have a polite debate without sounding condescending or holier than thou. Just my 2 cents. :thumbsup

BTW, I too have heard about that 700 degree cracking by some guy on the BITOG forums, and the process and its final result appears to be the real deal, but a bit more complicated than I am willing to step into at this point. As for now, I am enjoying my own forays into using WMO as fuel, building my own high efficiency filtration system, making new connections for WMO acquisition, etc. Seems a heckuva lot less work than making biodiesel and the cost per gallon is literally next to nothing once the filtration system is constructed. Since motor oil contains over 10 thousand more BTU's per gallon than diesel fuel itself, it actually adds noticeably to the power my truck makes. It's a seat-of-the-pants difference.

How long have you owned that 64 'vette? Is it a drum braked car? I drove one of those for a while. For having drums and not discs, the brakes were surprizingly effective

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[rollxman]

Was curious if anyone has heard of diesel secret energy. They claim making bio diesel by just adding their additive and running the used veggie oil thru a filter. The kit would be rather in-expensive to make,less than 300.00 investment and they claim the end cost is 40 cents a gallon providing the used oil is free.

[Desert Dually]

Originally Posted by rollxman

Was curious if anyone has heard of diesel secret energy. They claim making bio diesel by just adding their additive and running the used veggie oil thru a filter. The kit would be rather in-expensive to make,less than 300.00 investment and they claim the end cost is 40 cents a gallon providing the used oil is free.

how about keeping this thread on topic? By the way, familiarize yourself with the search function and you can have many pleasurable hours of reading about diesel secret on this site and several others.

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[kstinson]

You could centrifuge the oil to remove the particulate matter, however the deposits left from burning WEO would worry me. Another thing is looking at various oil manufactures websites the flash point of motor oil (i was looking at 5W-30 because of how common it is) you see the flash point is between 440-450*F, where as diesel sits around 146*F, and biodiesel coming in at about 266*F. Biodiesel has been shown to cause fuel/oil dillution due to an incomplete burn, more prominent in common rail engines using multiple injections however present in all diesel engines. This tells me that if biodiesel isn't burning completely because of flash point and viscosity then motor oil is going to be even worse. So in the long run your probably going to end up with a crankcase filled with various types and viscosities of oil rather than the 15W40 you originally filled it with. However this is just my theory i would love to see an oil analysis from an engine that has been running WEO for sometime, and even more so a tear down of an engine that has been running it.

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[MikeyB]

Diesel fuel flash point can vary from 125-200F using the Cleveland Open Cup test with a flame. But since diesels uses compression ignition everything changes due to the pressures involved. The auto ignition from pressure is around 400F.

I don't have a auto ignition number for motor oil but Bunker C fuel oil(which is nastier than refined motor oil) is around 500F.

MikeyB

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[Jameson Bearden]

i run 50% burnt motor oil..as long as its pure with no debris or water in it it will run fine..just smells kinda like a car thats needs rings and is usin oil..i run mine through a filter before i put it in my tank. You can also use used hydraulic oil but i wouldnt run anything higher than 50%

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