Diesel Hydrogen conversion - Page 4

febrocks · 07-17-2008, 12:58 PM

The cell that I've seen work is the one that comes with a ecm fooler, gasser. They lean the fuel which is how you get the mileage increase. I don't recall any one diesel programmer does this. Without a way to cut some fuel and timing, I seriously doubt it will work.

I've finished building a smocks cell. I just don't think one cell will produce enough brown gas to help. I've email treedr at dieseltruckresource and he's using 4-5 cells in series. Yes, it's in his bed.

I'm going to try mine but I don't think it's going to work. I'm going to try it anyways.

Eugene

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jon_paulnc · 07-17-2008, 07:00 PM

So yall just have 12 volts going straight to the electrodes from your battery?

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***chefbutthead*** · 07-17-2008, 07:59 PM

I just checked out the videos on You Tube.
I did not see a resistor or a capacitor.
Check them out.
I am not saying that the thing is hooked directly to a battery.
I am just pointing out what I see in the videos.
albert

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***chefbutthead*** · 07-19-2008, 03:18 PM

I got a message from a friend who told me about a site called jeffotto.com
He says that they will sell a fuel cell kit with applications that reprogram the computer.
He says that when you add a fuel cell without reprogramming, a lot of the fuel is wasted because of the air flow and burn ratio in the motor.
I heard today that the big auto makers have been barred from producing hydrogen fuel cell vehicles by the oil companies.
I think we need to boycott the oil companies and possibly put them out of business.
They have us by the short hairs.
It is just finding a way to do it.
Veggie systems would work, but the hassle with getting the grease and filtering it is a pain.
My uncle has been pondering the idea of creating a vehicle that runs using hydraulics.
We are all smart guys, lets put our heads together.
albert

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cjdave · 07-19-2008, 03:51 PM

HHO works Awsome in gas jobs, my friend and I have several installations going now.
Have spent over 2 years perfecting electronic controlls to keep it from boiling at max output.
My 2003 CTD has been runnung screwey because i think a bad APPS. When I first installed our version I got around a 30% increase in around town, 16.5 to 19.4 mpg. Was bumping 24 highway (68mph) keep the rpm's under 2000.

robbyblv · 07-21-2008, 11:08 PM

Hey guys, yes I tried it built a few systems and I know this... I have a crap load of plans and parts if interested..

works in gassers and does not in diesels.... well mine anyway.. damn fancy 6.7L

it actually decreased the mileage in my truck!

FWIW....

NoCshNoSplsh · 07-22-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cjdave

HHO works Awsome in gas jobs, my friend and I have several installations going now.
Have spent over 2 years perfecting electronic controlls to keep it from boiling at max output.
My 2003 CTD has been runnung screwey because i think a bad APPS. When I first installed our version I got around a 30% increase in around town, 16.5 to 19.4 mpg. Was bumping 24 highway (68mph) keep the rpm's under 2000.

I get that now at 70 without a generator. I dont have a highly explosive gas under the hood.

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mawarf · 07-24-2008, 11:33 AM

go to hhoforums.com you'll find plans & people helping to get better fuel mileage

bob campbell · 08-07-2008, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjdave

HHO works Awsome in gas jobs, my friend and I have several installations going now.
Have spent over 2 years perfecting electronic controlls to keep it from boiling at max output.
My 2003 CTD has been runnung screwey because i think a bad APPS. When I first installed our version I got around a 30% increase in around town, 16.5 to 19.4 mpg. Was bumping 24 highway (68mph) keep the rpm's under 2000.

I built an HHO generator and have been testing it. It puts out 2 LPM @ 20Amps when cold and 4 LPM @ 40Amps when warm. The results are mixed on my turbocharged diesel one ton. Acceleration has improved but my MPG has decreased for both highway and city driving. I don’t know much about engines but wonder if I need to adjust something to get the MPG increase I am hoping for.

Bob

hagyjoe · 08-23-2008, 03:31 PM

A few of the guys I work with have used schedule 40 PVC pipe with AN fittings and stainless steel safety wire spun on the inside to make the generator and a fire extinguisher bracket to hold it all down. One guy gets close to 40 mpg in a ranger but says it runs hot in the city and only turns it on while on the highway. I will build one for my grease burning diesel Jetta when someone gets better than my 55 mpg.

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07-17-2008, 07:59 PM	#39 (permalink)
*chefbutthead* Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Calizona Posts: 28 chefbutthead's Truck Pics	Diesel Hydrogen Fuel Alternative I just checked out the videos on You Tube. I did not see a resistor or a capacitor. Check them out. I am not saying that the thing is hooked directly to a battery. I am just pointing out what I see in the videos. albert __________________ 07 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Diesel Superchip and stock until the warranty runs out at 75000 miles

07-19-2008, 03:18 PM	#40 (permalink)
*chefbutthead* Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Calizona Posts: 28 chefbutthead's Truck Pics	Hydrogen Diesel Alternative I got a message from a friend who told me about a site called jeffotto.com He says that they will sell a fuel cell kit with applications that reprogram the computer. He says that when you add a fuel cell without reprogramming, a lot of the fuel is wasted because of the air flow and burn ratio in the motor. I heard today that the big auto makers have been barred from producing hydrogen fuel cell vehicles by the oil companies. I think we need to boycott the oil companies and possibly put them out of business. They have us by the short hairs. It is just finding a way to do it. Veggie systems would work, but the hassle with getting the grease and filtering it is a pain. My uncle has been pondering the idea of creating a vehicle that runs using hydraulics. We are all smart guys, lets put our heads together. albert __________________ 07 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Diesel Superchip and stock until the warranty runs out at 75000 miles

07-21-2008, 11:08 PM	#42 (permalink)
robbyblv Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 6 robbyblv's Truck Pics	yup yup Hey guys, yes I tried it built a few systems and I know this... I have a crap load of plans and parts if interested.. works in gassers and does not in diesels.... well mine anyway.. damn fancy 6.7L it actually decreased the mileage in my truck! FWIW....

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07-17-2008, 12:58 PM	#37 (permalink)
febrocks Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 287 febrocks's Truck Pics	The cell that I've seen work is the one that comes with a ecm fooler, gasser. They lean the fuel which is how you get the mileage increase. I don't recall any one diesel programmer does this. Without a way to cut some fuel and timing, I seriously doubt it will work. I've finished building a smocks cell. I just don't think one cell will produce enough brown gas to help. I've email treedr at dieseltruckresource and he's using 4-5 cells in series. Yes, it's in his bed. I'm going to try mine but I don't think it's going to work. I'm going to try it anyways. Eugene __________________ 98.5 2500 slt, 24v,quad cab,2wd, longbed, auto. amsoil air filter, II stage 2 injector, VA V5, stock straight pipe, fass hpfp. FP/pryo/trans temp gauge.

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07-17-2008, 07:00 PM	#38 (permalink)
jon_paulnc Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 112 jon_paulnc's Truck Pics	So yall just have 12 volts going straight to the electrodes from your battery? __________________ 2007 2500 5.9 Larmie 4 Door long bed. 5 inch exhaust 6in tip. Putco 4in wheel to wheel nerf bars. Check out myspace page. myspace.com/jtopher03

07-19-2008, 03:51 PM	#41 (permalink)
cjdave Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Easton MA Posts: 19 cjdave's Truck Pics	HHO works Awsome in gas jobs, my friend and I have several installations going now. Have spent over 2 years perfecting electronic controlls to keep it from boiling at max output. My 2003 CTD has been runnung screwey because i think a bad APPS. When I first installed our version I got around a 30% increase in around town, 16.5 to 19.4 mpg. Was bumping 24 highway (68mph) keep the rpm's under 2000.

07-24-2008, 11:33 AM	#44 (permalink)
mawarf Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1 mawarf's Truck Pics	go to hhoforums.com you'll find plans & people helping to get better fuel mileage

08-23-2008, 03:31 PM	#46 (permalink)
hagyjoe Cummins Fan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: FL Posts: 46 hagyjoe's Truck Pics	A few of the guys I work with have used schedule 40 PVC pipe with AN fittings and stainless steel safety wire spun on the inside to make the generator and a fire extinguisher bracket to hold it all down. One guy gets close to 40 mpg in a ranger but says it runs hot in the city and only turns it on while on the highway. I will build one for my grease burning diesel Jetta when someone gets better than my 55 mpg. __________________ A DODGE TRUCK IS WHAT MY CUMMINS ENGINE CAME WITH. 2006 3500 SLT Thurnder Road QC 2WD DRW 6-Speed, Prodigy Brake Control, B&W Turnover Ball, B&W Companion 5th Wheel Hitch, Line-X, Mopar Mud Flaps, Airaid Intake, 5" Turbo Back Exhaust.