The bad of biodiesel?

[vic777]

Originally Posted by elephantrider

extremem 4x4 on spike tv took a vw tdi and put it in a sammi off road rig. thing was awesome. they ran pure clean veggie oil in it and said they had no issues at all, ran like a champ.

That was a great episode! They had a fuel heater, (pipes running thru fuel tank) however, to keep "pure vegitable oil" from gelling.

[ak_cowboy]

hipsi i am glad I could count on someone to be an inteligent backside...lol

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[ffpaulen]

I only run my own B100 through my 6.7. Love it! Since i have a new, common rail truck i go through extra steps in my process and lots of testing to make sure my bio is high quality. I get a little less mileage but i make each batch for around $1.05 a gallon. And no money for terrorists!

Give it a try but do alot of research and dont rush batches!

The best website for info is: biodiesel discussion forum

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[smokeater]

Me too,running b100 love it , making it for about $.65 (a guy hooked me up with some cheap methanol)

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[totalloser]

Originally Posted by hipsi

Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon, Suncor, BP..

I have to chuckle.

Biocide is a good product for dino, too. For the same reasons. This is kind of a rough thread, info wise. I second Sparks280zt. Great book. No net "wisdom". You should really get a book if you are thinking about it anyhow. Most people who are thinking about it will be entertained by a book, and will learn all they need to know, without any disinformation. It's a really light read, too.

From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank
Joshua Tickell

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[antwan718]

I ran my first tank of b99 from a station near where i live about a month ago, not a single problem. I got an extra filter on hand and everything i would need to change the filter out on the side of road in the event of an emergency. it WILL drop your MPG a bit from the lower BTU of bio vs petrol and it will make your engine run with less knock

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[dezl]

alright to address a few things, firstly, I have run bio in my old CR and it ran amazing. I had zero issues with it once so ever. I ran it for 20k or so which isnt all that many miles but again I had zero problems. I sold that truck and now have a 94 f350 with a 95 12valve in it. The only problems that I have had nothing to with the biodiesel at all.

I know that there hasnt been a million tests and all that type of stuff saying that bio is 100% full proof but based on my experience I wouldnt hesitate to run it in any of my trucks. My friends run the same bio in a 7.3, 6.0, 6.5, and 6.6 all diesels from different companies. I can also say that I am by no means a chemist, the stuff just isnt that hard to make! Also i believe that its a great idea to get a book and read about everything before you start dumping bio in, personally I did. I read how to make it and went for it, I learn alot quicker from hands on experimenting.

So you want to know the bad of biodiesel????

1) i drive and am constantly hungry
2) its messy as crap!


thats all

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[bcfitzsimons]

I hear you with the constantly hungry! I fill up at a station around where I live that carries B20, and it always smells like donuts when I start my truck up!

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[dezl]

Originally Posted by bcfitzsimons

I hear you with the constantly hungry! I fill up at a station around where I live that carries B20, and it always smells like donuts when I start my truck up!

my largest source of oil is from a local hotel, I have a mix of burgers,fries and mexican food....MY FAVORITES!

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[totalloser]

Biodiesel will soften some fuel lines BEWARE THIS CAN GET BAD. And it will eat paint. I get less fuel efficiency (1.5 to 2mpg) and more lag, but significantly less smoke. I plugged up the first filter, and changed the second just to make sure as the bio cleaned the deposits out of my tank. I also got a smoother idle and more power as it cleaned out my injector tips, but this didn't make much difference as I did 100 hp sticks not too long after that. I have noticed that in non-turbo trucks, there seems to be no noticeable loss of power-but my assessment is based on an IDI truck which runs MUCH higher compression.

My power/efficiency losses may in part be due to the wvo the bio is made from. Longer chain triglycerides make longer chain hydrocarbon biodiesel. Which like petro, means lower cetane rating. I am sure it still is much higher cetane than petro, but maybe not as high as bio made from virgin oil. (Waste oil "hydrogenates" making the chains longer)

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[Biodieselman]

Originally Posted by ffpaulen

I only run my own B100 through my 6.7. Love it! Since i have a new, common rail truck i go through extra steps in my process and lots of testing to make sure my bio is high quality. I get a little less mileage but i make each batch for around $1.05 a gallon. And no money for terrorists!...]

Amen! to the "... no money for terrorists..".

I started brewing in 2005 for my 1990 Cummins, with no problems. I've burned 100% biodiesel in my 2007 6.7 since day one. I also take extra care to produce quality fuel. I stopped mist washing fuel with the new truck & bought a ion resign filtration system instead. My last 100 gal batch cost me $1.24/gal to brew.

The only down side I've seen is that it takes a little work & time. But it feels good not buying bullets & bombs for terrorists to kill our sons & daughters fighting in the Middle East each time we fill up.

[halbritt]

I run whatever in my truck, a 2nd gen. I've not problems with fuel filter clogging, though I did replace it recently nor fuel lines.

The bad about biodiesel:
There's a bit less energy, specifically btu/gallon is less. Fuel economy goes down a bit.
It's a solvent, can harm paint
It can free up gook in your fuel tank and clog your fuel filter
Rubber fuel lines can be degraded. Most modern diesels have viton.

The good:
The engine runs more smoothly
Smells like french fries, atleast the stuff made from waste oil does. The virgin soy oil based B20 I run smells weird and not like french fries at all. Still smells better than #2
Political benefits, if you're into that sort of thing.
Environmental benefits, if you're into that sort of thing.

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