veggie oil

Blacksmog · 02-27-2008, 10:23 PM

a local guy tells me he'll give me all of the used veggie oil i want for free (already in containers). what do i need to do to run this? 3.59 per gallon is killing me

thanx

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rufushusky · 02-27-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacksmog

a local guy tells me he'll give me all of the used veggie oil i want for free (already in containers). what do i need to do to run this? 3.59 per gallon is killing me

thanx

well you could do one of two things:

1. Run the WVO as a fuel which would require a secondary fuel system with strainer, filters and heater. EG. Grease Car

2. Or brew your own biodiesel with it but you will need the quipment...eg. heating tank, methanol, lye etc etc...

I hope this helps.

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***Random Acts*** · 02-27-2008, 10:46 PM

Check out the Frybrid web site forums. The Frybrid system is one of the best, but lots of people make their own systems. The systems work like this. You start on diesel, the radiator fluid heats the vegi oil, once it's to temperature a three way switch changes the diesel to veggie. The veggie is kept in a tank by it self. Before you shut down, you throw switch to switch back to diesel to purge the veggie oil. There are many ways of accomplishing these basics, but they are all basically covering the above steps.

There are also people who make bio diesel out of veggie oil, Bio is made by separating the oil into two parts with lye and heat. Then one part you can pump right into your tank like diesel or in adddition to the diesel.

There are pros and cons to both Pure Veggie and Bio and you can do both if you choose. There are some concerns about corrosion, fuel gelling, and polermizorization <sp>. All the problems have work arounds.

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Blacksmog · 02-28-2008, 08:46 PM

thanx for the replies

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tjdavis · 02-29-2008, 02:22 PM

I would go with Homebrew biodiesel but I am partial to that since I run it in our 2 diesels.

Shoot me a pm and I can send you a few good links on Biodiesel.

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ram2500 · 03-01-2008, 07:39 AM

tjdavis did you buy a kit to make your own diesel? If so who did you go with? Any information would be great!!

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ram2500 · 03-01-2008, 08:28 AM

I just found this site and wanted viewers to check it out and let me know what you think about there product and if it works? There site is Diesel Secret Energy - Alternative Biofuel Biodiesel. I've read through some info and I need alot more if I went this route. Check it out.

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6.0-to-5.9 · 03-01-2008, 08:57 AM

Check out PlantDrive.com

I've been looking at this system for my PSD until I have been more interested in going Cummins! I've heard ALOT of great things - check out the testimonial section too. Also - call some of the installers (from the website) and talk to them about the systems installed. You get alot more information that way. With SVO/WVO - the systems primary expense is a seperate fuel tank ($500 - $800) and the hardware for the truck. For my PSD it would have been roughly $3000 installed by an installer in Charlotte NC. Free WVO, 2- 55 gallon drums and a few misc bits of pipe, retrofitted heater for the steel drum (one steel one poly) and I'm up and running WVO and not paying anything for diesel but once every 6 weeks. You start on Diesel and stop on diesel. Everything else is WVO/SVO. Heating systems vary from recirculating your engine coolant to seperate 12v heaters. It's best to check these systems out considerably. Call the installers - ask if they know anyone - like end users - that you could talk to.

A $3000 investment is quickly claimed back in fuel savings over 6 - 12 months! My PSD takes $120 - $140 per week to keep running on Diesel. Switching to WVO would save me roughly $500 per month in fuel savings. Within 6 months - I would have reclaimed my investment - after that its all savings.

I think there is Dino Fuel Alternative as another option too.

tjdavis · 03-03-2008, 11:25 AM

I built my own system with the help from people on the Infopop site. I suggest you read up on the process first here Welcome - Collaborative Biodiesel Tutorial Website

then get help and designs from Biodiesel & SVO Forums - Powered by eve community

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nitrorustler41 · 03-03-2008, 08:26 PM

that d.s.e. system looks killer! anyone have more info on that?

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Moparman · 03-03-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ram2500

I just found this site and wanted viewers to check it out and let me know what you think about there product and if it works? There site is Diesel Secret Energy - Alternative Biofuel Biodiesel. I've read through some info and I need alot more if I went this route. Check it out.

A lot of people say that DSE is bogus.

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ram2500 · 03-12-2008, 06:51 PM

What kind of pump/filter set up are you guys using to suck the WVO out of the resturants barrels? I need a pump that is DC and a filter that will filter water and will not get clooged for running WVO through it.

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02-27-2008, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blacksmog Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Abita Springs, LA Posts: 38 Blacksmog's Truck Pics	veggie oil a local guy tells me he'll give me all of the used veggie oil i want for free (already in containers). what do i need to do to run this? 3.59 per gallon is killing me thanx __________________ 04.5 Quad Cab 2WD SB, Air Dog, S&B Intake, 4" Exhaust, 4.10, Factory Navigation

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02-27-2008, 10:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Random Acts* Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Castro Valley CA Posts: 192 Random Acts's Truck Pics	Check out the Frybrid web site forums. The Frybrid system is one of the best, but lots of people make their own systems. The systems work like this. You start on diesel, the radiator fluid heats the vegi oil, once it's to temperature a three way switch changes the diesel to veggie. The veggie is kept in a tank by it self. Before you shut down, you throw switch to switch back to diesel to purge the veggie oil. There are many ways of accomplishing these basics, but they are all basically covering the above steps. There are also people who make bio diesel out of veggie oil, Bio is made by separating the oil into two parts with lye and heat. Then one part you can pump right into your tank like diesel or in adddition to the diesel. There are pros and cons to both Pure Veggie and Bio and you can do both if you choose. There are some concerns about corrosion, fuel gelling, and polermizorization <sp>. All the problems have work arounds. __________________ 99 2500 Banks Power Pack Isspro Fuel Pressure BHAF Quadzilla XZT A Fass 150/150 Vulcan Draw Straw

02-28-2008, 08:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blacksmog Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Abita Springs, LA Posts: 38 Blacksmog's Truck Pics	thanx for the replies __________________ 04.5 Quad Cab 2WD SB, Air Dog, S&B Intake, 4" Exhaust, 4.10, Factory Navigation

02-29-2008, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
tjdavis Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 17 tjdavis's Truck Pics	I would go with Homebrew biodiesel but I am partial to that since I run it in our 2 diesels. Shoot me a pm and I can send you a few good links on Biodiesel. __________________ 2004 2500, Red/Silver, SLT, Auto, 2x4, Quad, SWB, SRW 3.73, Magnaflow Exhaust, Banks Six-Gun(came with the truck), AFE Intake stage 1, Nerf Bars, next on the list Line-X. 2005 CRD Jeep Liberty for the wife.

03-01-2008, 07:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
ram2500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VA Posts: 67 ram2500's Truck Pics	tjdavis did you buy a kit to make your own diesel? If so who did you go with? Any information would be great!! __________________ 2005, LB, quad cab,5 inch skyjacker 37/12.5/17, weld dunes, Diablo sport combo, Nfab steps.

03-01-2008, 08:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
ram2500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VA Posts: 67 ram2500's Truck Pics	I just found this site and wanted viewers to check it out and let me know what you think about there product and if it works? There site is Diesel Secret Energy - Alternative Biofuel Biodiesel. I've read through some info and I need alot more if I went this route. Check it out. __________________ 2005, LB, quad cab,5 inch skyjacker 37/12.5/17, weld dunes, Diablo sport combo, Nfab steps.

03-01-2008, 08:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
6.0-to-5.9 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 1 6.0-to-5.9's Truck Pics	Check out PlantDrive.com I've been looking at this system for my PSD until I have been more interested in going Cummins! I've heard ALOT of great things - check out the testimonial section too. Also - call some of the installers (from the website) and talk to them about the systems installed. You get alot more information that way. With SVO/WVO - the systems primary expense is a seperate fuel tank ($500 - $800) and the hardware for the truck. For my PSD it would have been roughly $3000 installed by an installer in Charlotte NC. Free WVO, 2- 55 gallon drums and a few misc bits of pipe, retrofitted heater for the steel drum (one steel one poly) and I'm up and running WVO and not paying anything for diesel but once every 6 weeks. You start on Diesel and stop on diesel. Everything else is WVO/SVO. Heating systems vary from recirculating your engine coolant to seperate 12v heaters. It's best to check these systems out considerably. Call the installers - ask if they know anyone - like end users - that you could talk to. A $3000 investment is quickly claimed back in fuel savings over 6 - 12 months! My PSD takes $120 - $140 per week to keep running on Diesel. Switching to WVO would save me roughly $500 per month in fuel savings. Within 6 months - I would have reclaimed my investment - after that its all savings. I think there is Dino Fuel Alternative as another option too.

03-03-2008, 11:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
tjdavis Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 17 tjdavis's Truck Pics	I built my own system with the help from people on the Infopop site. I suggest you read up on the process first here Welcome - Collaborative Biodiesel Tutorial Website then get help and designs from Biodiesel & SVO Forums - Powered by eve community __________________ 2004 2500, Red/Silver, SLT, Auto, 2x4, Quad, SWB, SRW 3.73, Magnaflow Exhaust, Banks Six-Gun(came with the truck), AFE Intake stage 1, Nerf Bars, next on the list Line-X. 2005 CRD Jeep Liberty for the wife.

03-03-2008, 08:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
nitrorustler41 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: aurora, IL Posts: 134 nitrorustler41's Truck Pics	that d.s.e. system looks killer! anyone have more info on that? __________________ dsm: who needs a dog, when you can walk your crank?

03-12-2008, 06:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
ram2500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VA Posts: 67 ram2500's Truck Pics	What kind of pump/filter set up are you guys using to suck the WVO out of the resturants barrels? I need a pump that is DC and a filter that will filter water and will not get clooged for running WVO through it. __________________ 2005, LB, quad cab,5 inch skyjacker 37/12.5/17, weld dunes, Diablo sport combo, Nfab steps.