My Magdrive HHO test Results

eslfuzzy · 12-22-2007, 11:14 PM

Ok I made the trip home with the new Magdrive HHO installed. The injection point was the cold air tube before the turbo. Here is how it went. I received the unit and quickly installed it. I only had a couple of hours on Wednesday and took another hour and a half on Thursday to finish it. I installed it in the parking lot where I’m staying. It was a little cold out so I didn’t spend the time on it as I should have and the facilities wasn’t the best garage for installing but it’s on.
The unit was producing a lot of bubbles so it appeared to be working well. On Friday I drove the truck to work which was about 25 miles. Noticed the rust looking water already.
After work we headed home for the holiday, around 1000 miles. Ran down the interstate at between 65 and 70, No wind, High humidity (foggy), temp 38 to 40F. The first tank of Diesel took us 478 miles on 25 gallons of fuel. That was 19+ mpg.:thumbsup The truck has never got over 15mpg. The truck has about 16,000 miles on it so it’s not broke in yet. After we filled up the fuel tank I started the truck and looked at the tube that the hydrogen exits the brick which was really rusty (thick) looking. I didn’t see any bubbles any more so I thought I would drain the circulator trap a lot of dirty water came out. I let it drain until clear. I then refilled the water reservoir. I didn’t see any bubbles (the hose seemed very stained) was eager to get going so we headed down the road. After 200 miles it was looking like the fuel was going fast. We stopped for a rest break and looked for a possible problem. Found the fuse was blown. Changed the fuse and the bubbles were back. Filled up the truck to get a fresh mpg reading. It was 16. Don’t know why so good (relatively speaking). I’m pretty sure now, that the fuse was blown out when I checked at the first fill up. Now on the road again. The mileage didn’t get any better as we ended up with a 30 mph head wind and I sped up to between 75 and 80mph. The last time I topped off the tank the truck got 14.6 mpg. It was making bubbles so it should have been working. That’s back to what I normally get. The first 500 miles was done in perfect weather conditions for testing this unit (no weather changes). I was very impressed with the 19 mpg. That’s more than 30% improvement. I think the washer motor went out as it won’t pump today. I don’t know when it went out but it was working during the last fill. I will be working on the system to get it setup better on the truck during the next couple of days. I hope this helps some. I'm very upbeat about this...I believe it does work and quite well. More time will tell.
Fuzzy

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DNRCUSTOMS · 12-22-2007, 11:31 PM

sounds pretty good, A headwind will kill mpg. So you think the unit works good, but it needs a little attention as far as ?? Why didn't you put in the intake plenium, I heard that is the optimium spot. Too much is lost through the turbo. Sounds good though

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eslfuzzy · 12-23-2007, 11:42 AM

I do think the unit works good. I just need to do a more perminate and cleaner install. I couldn't place it in the plenum because the of the pressure provided by the turbo. I need to either build a venturi or buy one. The venturi that comes with the unit is not a true venturi, more like an injector that places the gas in the center of the cold air stream. The unit needs a vacuum to pull the hydrogen into the engine. I also didn't get teh right water. I grabbed the drinking water instead of the distilled. That may be where the larger amount of rusty water is coming from.

Scott

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johntf · 12-23-2007, 12:29 PM

Posting to see results .

penche07 · 12-23-2007, 01:02 PM

There is a disributor in AK that sells the venturis. He is very informative.

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eslfuzzy · 12-23-2007, 01:25 PM

pblankenship, on another post here, posted the phone number to the Arkansas dealer with the venturies. I do plan on checking them out.

it is here, http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/ge...-gains-15.html.

I hope I did the link right.

Thanks, Fuzzy

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2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

dakota001 · 12-23-2007, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eslfuzzy

Ok I made the trip home with the new Magdrive HHO installed. The injection point was the cold air tube before the turbo. Here is how it went. I received the unit and quickly installed it. I only had a couple of hours on Wednesday and took another hour and a half on Thursday to finish it. I installed it in the parking lot where I’m staying. It was a little cold out so I didn’t spend the time on it as I should have and the facilities wasn’t the best garage for installing but it’s on.
The unit was producing a lot of bubbles so it appeared to be working well. On Friday I drove the truck to work which was about 25 miles. Noticed the rust looking water already.
After work we headed home for the holiday, around 1000 miles. Ran down the interstate at between 65 and 70, No wind, High humidity (foggy), temp 38 to 40F. The first tank of Diesel took us 478 miles on 25 gallons of fuel. That was 19+ mpg.:thumbsup The truck has never got over 15mpg. The truck has about 16,000 miles on it so it’s not broke in yet. After we filled up the fuel tank I started the truck and looked at the tube that the hydrogen exits the brick which was really rusty (thick) looking. I didn’t see any bubbles any more so I thought I would drain the circulator trap a lot of dirty water came out. I let it drain until clear. I then refilled the water reservoir. I didn’t see any bubbles (the hose seemed very stained) was eager to get going so we headed down the road. After 200 miles it was looking like the fuel was going fast. We stopped for a rest break and looked for a possible problem. Found the fuse was blown. Changed the fuse and the bubbles were back. Filled up the truck to get a fresh mpg reading. It was 16. Don’t know why so good (relatively speaking). I’m pretty sure now, that the fuse was blown out when I checked at the first fill up. Now on the road again. The mileage didn’t get any better as we ended up with a 30 mph head wind and I sped up to between 75 and 80mph. The last time I topped off the tank the truck got 14.6 mpg. It was making bubbles so it should have been working. That’s back to what I normally get. The first 500 miles was done in perfect weather conditions for testing this unit (no weather changes). I was very impressed with the 19 mpg. That’s more than 30% improvement. I think the washer motor went out as it won’t pump today. I don’t know when it went out but it was working during the last fill. I will be working on the system to get it setup better on the truck during the next couple of days. I hope this helps some. I'm very upbeat about this...I believe it does work and quite well. More time will tell.
Fuzzy

What are you using with the distilled water, salt?...If you are then the water will turn brown very fast.. don't worry about the sludge...it's normal with salt.....also, your mileage will die if you're not using distilled water

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eslfuzzy · 12-23-2007, 02:40 PM

Using 1/2 teaspoon of Baking soda per gallon. The instructions also discuss using distilled white vinegar (5% solution) to keep the unit clean. It says no mixing Just pour it in full strength and go. Has anyone tried this yet?

Fuzzy

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2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

dakota001 · 12-23-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eslfuzzy

Using 1/2 teaspoon of Baking soda per gallon. The instructions also discuss using distilled white vinegar (5% solution) to keep the unit clean. It says no mixing Just pour it in full strength and go. Has anyone tried this yet?

Fuzzy

I have tried pure vinegar to make HHO...it worked, but the output I thought was low. Went back to using baking soda but will try adding a tablespoon or two of vinegar to the mix. Also, how large is the hose coming from the unit to the injection point pre-turbo and what amp load are you drawing at 1/2 teaspoon baking soda?

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socal2ks · 12-24-2007, 12:55 AM

This is interesting stuff, do you have any pictures of your setup?

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2001.5CTD2500 · 12-24-2007, 09:35 PM

Anybody else have this setup, you guys almost have me convinced on buying one. Overall, how satisfied would you say you are with the system.

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Ram04SLT · 12-27-2007, 03:43 PM

Well from what I am reading thus far, it sounds promising!!!
But it sounds like it still needs some fine tuning of sorts
Anyone else have any reports on there findings? Please enlighten us!!!

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12-22-2007, 11:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
eslfuzzy Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts eslfuzzy's Truck Pics	My Magdrive HHO test Results Ok I made the trip home with the new Magdrive HHO installed. The injection point was the cold air tube before the turbo. Here is how it went. I received the unit and quickly installed it. I only had a couple of hours on Wednesday and took another hour and a half on Thursday to finish it. I installed it in the parking lot where I’m staying. It was a little cold out so I didn’t spend the time on it as I should have and the facilities wasn’t the best garage for installing but it’s on. The unit was producing a lot of bubbles so it appeared to be working well. On Friday I drove the truck to work which was about 25 miles. Noticed the rust looking water already. After work we headed home for the holiday, around 1000 miles. Ran down the interstate at between 65 and 70, No wind, High humidity (foggy), temp 38 to 40F. The first tank of Diesel took us 478 miles on 25 gallons of fuel. That was 19+ mpg.:thumbsup The truck has never got over 15mpg. The truck has about 16,000 miles on it so it’s not broke in yet. After we filled up the fuel tank I started the truck and looked at the tube that the hydrogen exits the brick which was really rusty (thick) looking. I didn’t see any bubbles any more so I thought I would drain the circulator trap a lot of dirty water came out. I let it drain until clear. I then refilled the water reservoir. I didn’t see any bubbles (the hose seemed very stained) was eager to get going so we headed down the road. After 200 miles it was looking like the fuel was going fast. We stopped for a rest break and looked for a possible problem. Found the fuse was blown. Changed the fuse and the bubbles were back. Filled up the truck to get a fresh mpg reading. It was 16. Don’t know why so good (relatively speaking). I’m pretty sure now, that the fuse was blown out when I checked at the first fill up. Now on the road again. The mileage didn’t get any better as we ended up with a 30 mph head wind and I sped up to between 75 and 80mph. The last time I topped off the tank the truck got 14.6 mpg. It was making bubbles so it should have been working. That’s back to what I normally get. The first 500 miles was done in perfect weather conditions for testing this unit (no weather changes). I was very impressed with the 19 mpg. That’s more than 30% improvement. I think the washer motor went out as it won’t pump today. I don’t know when it went out but it was working during the last fill. I will be working on the system to get it setup better on the truck during the next couple of days. I hope this helps some. I'm very upbeat about this...I believe it does work and quite well. More time will tell. Fuzzy __________________ 2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

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12-22-2007, 11:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
DNRCUSTOMS MXer Turned Diesel Nut Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond Mi Posts: 427 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts DNRCUSTOMS's Truck Pics	sounds pretty good, A headwind will kill mpg. So you think the unit works good, but it needs a little attention as far as ?? Why didn't you put in the intake plenium, I heard that is the optimium spot. Too much is lost through the turbo. Sounds good though __________________ 2006 3500 Mega Cab, S&B intake, Tripple guage cluster, Line X, Skyjacker 2.5 lift, 5100 shocks, Aero Turbine 5" turbo back, bully dog , 305 Mckys on 20" moto metal's, EMS off road Free Spin Kit, Mag Hytec Diff cover, Amsoil Sythetic , Bushwacker fender flares, Custom mud flaps, 92 4X4 cummins 4" lift, 47rh trans, custom flip shacles in the rear, ,

12-23-2007, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
eslfuzzy Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts eslfuzzy's Truck Pics	I do think the unit works good. I just need to do a more perminate and cleaner install. I couldn't place it in the plenum because the of the pressure provided by the turbo. I need to either build a venturi or buy one. The venturi that comes with the unit is not a true venturi, more like an injector that places the gas in the center of the cold air stream. The unit needs a vacuum to pull the hydrogen into the engine. I also didn't get teh right water. I grabbed the drinking water instead of the distilled. That may be where the larger amount of rusty water is coming from. Scott __________________ 2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

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penche07 Cummins Nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Padre Island TX Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts penche07's Truck Pics	There is a disributor in AK that sells the venturis. He is very informative. __________________ 2007 5.9 4x4 6 speed Lone Star Quad cab. Equipped with Hot Edge Juice/Att straight piped. Isspro Fuel, Egt, Boost With Cool Blue hose, Amsoil 4091 and an IceBox

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eslfuzzy Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts eslfuzzy's Truck Pics	pblankenship, on another post here, posted the phone number to the Arkansas dealer with the venturies. I do plan on checking them out. it is here, http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/ge...-gains-15.html. I hope I did the link right. Thanks, Fuzzy __________________ 2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

12-23-2007, 02:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
eslfuzzy Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts eslfuzzy's Truck Pics	Using 1/2 teaspoon of Baking soda per gallon. The instructions also discuss using distilled white vinegar (5% solution) to keep the unit clean. It says no mixing Just pour it in full strength and go. Has anyone tried this yet? Fuzzy __________________ 2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

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socal2ks Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts socal2ks's Truck Pics	This is interesting stuff, do you have any pictures of your setup? __________________ 07 classic lbz. Whats next? Southern Cal to Kansas

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Ram04SLT Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Litchfield IL Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Ram04SLT's Truck Pics	Well from what I am reading thus far, it sounds promising!!! But it sounds like it still needs some fine tuning of sorts Anyone else have any reports on there findings? Please enlighten us!!! __________________ Corey...... Proud member of the ICC Silver, 04.5, CTD, 325/600, Quad Cab, SB, 4x4 S-Ring removed, all current flash updates...Of course all Mods and subject to FINAL APPROVAL by Higher Headquarters!!