My Magdrive HHO test Results - Page 3

johntf · 01-17-2008, 09:41 AM

Thanks one of the themes in these posts , that hasn't sounded right to me either , but I'm still watching to find more info .

Tree DR · 01-19-2008, 06:49 AM

This is good stuff. Now that I have been building my own hydrogen cells for about 4yrs. Not selling them either just my own interests. I have seen 15% improvements on my 97dodge and lots of gas engines.
On my 04 and my current 05 I can not say for sure that I'm getting any improvements. I think on the third gen trucks the pilot injection is burning the H before it can do any good. On a side note they say the pilot injection shuts off at higher rpms, my truck sure pulls hard from about 2700-3200rpms. Maybe H?
I have always put the H in before the air filter and this is the first I've heard of putting it in after the intercooler. I don't know why it would make any differance but lets find out for sure if possible.

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deerefanatic · 01-21-2008, 05:06 AM

I agree, pre-turbo...... Best spot........ The suction between the turbo and the air filter creates a (very) small vacuum that helps the cell generate more hydrogen............ That's why they work SOOO well on gasser's..............

1dodge1 · 01-21-2008, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree DR

This is good stuff. Now that I have been building my own hydrogen cells for about 4yrs. Not selling them either just my own interests. I have seen 15% improvements on my 97dodge and lots of gas engines.
On my 04 and my current 05 I can not say for sure that I'm getting any improvements. I think on the third gen trucks the pilot injection is burning the H before it can do any good. On a side note they say the pilot injection shuts off at higher rpms, my truck sure pulls hard from about 2700-3200rpms. Maybe H?
I have always put the H in before the air filter and this is the first I've heard of putting it in after the intercooler. I don't know why it would make any differance but lets find out for sure if possible.

I read a rumor that EFILive was working on a system for the Cummins. Sounds like that system has the ability to adjust the timing and pilot ignition on the duramax from some comments on people who were adjusting for it. Would be interesting to shut down/minimize the pilot injection and make up for it with hydrogen and delayed timing...

eslfuzzy · 01-21-2008, 09:20 PM

Just a FYI, mine quit working right after I mixed a bunch of alcohol in the water to keep it from freezing. It did work for a short time as I was increasing the mixture of alcohol. It didn't freeze at zero but you could tell the thing didn't make as many bubbles. the temps have been around 15 above to 10 below for a while now. It's a hassle to mess with the water freezing. One of the warmer days I did clear out the alcohol and reintroduce water, that's when I found it to not work at all. Everything appeared to be powered. I have given up on the unit until it warms up outside. hopefully it will be warming in a few weeks. I plan on cleaning the unit with CLR. maybe that with get it working again. I also need to get a amp meter.

Fuzzy

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Tree DR · 01-25-2008, 04:20 PM

With just bakeing soda my cell will partially freeze never gets solid down to 0deg. I don't have all the pumps and such though.

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Breadman03 · 02-17-2008, 11:27 AM

What about tapping onto a coolant or oil line and wrapping the cell with it, or using some of electric tape, like what you can use on your outdoor plumbing to keep it from freezing?

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eslfuzzy · 02-18-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree DR

With just bakeing soda my cell will partially freeze never gets solid down to 0deg. I don't have all the pumps and such though.

Tree DR, What model do you have?

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Tree DR · 02-20-2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eslfuzzy

Tree DR, What model do you have?

I build my own. Right now I'm useing a container I got from W-mart. Clear plastic about a half gal. Copper plates for the negative and stainless for the pos. I'd post pics it may or may not work with my snail dial up.

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bbraden · 03-04-2008, 06:41 PM

any updates?

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Tree DR · 03-04-2008, 07:52 PM

I've put HHOO in my cell and so far can't really tell any difference. I wish I had a lab to work in. HHOO hydrogen peroxide.

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65Catalina · 03-24-2008, 01:34 AM

if the hydrogen is introduced pre-turbo, then the heat from the turbo will make the H2 expand, therefore you wont have the density of hydrogen going in the engine as you would introducing it after the turbo and intercooler

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01-17-2008, 09:41 AM	#25 (permalink)
johntf Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ham Lake ,MN Posts: 164 johntf's Truck Pics	Thanks one of the themes in these posts , that hasn't sounded right to me either , but I'm still watching to find more info .

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01-19-2008, 06:49 AM	#26 (permalink)
Tree DR Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 111 Tree DR's Truck Pics	This is good stuff. Now that I have been building my own hydrogen cells for about 4yrs. Not selling them either just my own interests. I have seen 15% improvements on my 97dodge and lots of gas engines. On my 04 and my current 05 I can not say for sure that I'm getting any improvements. I think on the third gen trucks the pilot injection is burning the H before it can do any good. On a side note they say the pilot injection shuts off at higher rpms, my truck sure pulls hard from about 2700-3200rpms. Maybe H? I have always put the H in before the air filter and this is the first I've heard of putting it in after the intercooler. I don't know why it would make any differance but lets find out for sure if possible. __________________ 05 3500 4x4

01-21-2008, 05:06 AM	#27 (permalink)
deerefanatic Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 106 deerefanatic's Truck Pics	I agree, pre-turbo...... Best spot........ The suction between the turbo and the air filter creates a (very) small vacuum that helps the cell generate more hydrogen............ That's why they work SOOO well on gasser's..............

01-21-2008, 09:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
eslfuzzy Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 13 eslfuzzy's Truck Pics	Just a FYI, mine quit working right after I mixed a bunch of alcohol in the water to keep it from freezing. It did work for a short time as I was increasing the mixture of alcohol. It didn't freeze at zero but you could tell the thing didn't make as many bubbles. the temps have been around 15 above to 10 below for a while now. It's a hassle to mess with the water freezing. One of the warmer days I did clear out the alcohol and reintroduce water, that's when I found it to not work at all. Everything appeared to be powered. I have given up on the unit until it warms up outside. hopefully it will be warming in a few weeks. I plan on cleaning the unit with CLR. maybe that with get it working again. I also need to get a amp meter. Fuzzy __________________ 2006 Ram 2500, SB, 4X4, Auto, Edge, 5" home made air tube, Magdrive HHO, stock exhaust.

01-25-2008, 04:20 PM	#30 (permalink)
Tree DR Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 111 Tree DR's Truck Pics	With just bakeing soda my cell will partially freeze never gets solid down to 0deg. I don't have all the pumps and such though. __________________ 05 3500 4x4

02-17-2008, 11:27 AM	#31 (permalink)
Breadman03 Cummins Fan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: White Haven, PA Posts: 78 Breadman03's Truck Pics	What about tapping onto a coolant or oil line and wrapping the cell with it, or using some of electric tape, like what you can use on your outdoor plumbing to keep it from freezing? __________________ 03 3500 SRW 250 Horse 47re 4x4 QCSB Bone stock except for the trac-rac. AMSoil HDD 5W30, Amsoil oil, air filter

03-04-2008, 06:41 PM	#34 (permalink)
bbraden Diesel Head Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,078 bbraden's Truck Pics	any updates? __________________ 99 dodge 4x4 13" Proluk Gold clutch, BHAF-K&N combo, Super X VP44, FASS, Edge comp, MODIFIED Super B Turbo, RV 275's, Quick spool manifold, 4" MBRP straight back, 3.55's, BFG A/T 285's!, somewhere north of 400 hp

03-04-2008, 07:52 PM	#35 (permalink)
Tree DR Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 111 Tree DR's Truck Pics	I've put HHOO in my cell and so far can't really tell any difference. I wish I had a lab to work in. HHOO hydrogen peroxide. __________________ 05 3500 4x4

03-24-2008, 01:34 AM	#36 (permalink)
65Catalina Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 53 65Catalina's Truck Pics	if the hydrogen is introduced pre-turbo, then the heat from the turbo will make the H2 expand, therefore you wont have the density of hydrogen going in the engine as you would introducing it after the turbo and intercooler __________________ 2003 3500 DRW cummins, 4" custom intake, 4" turbo back to 6" black mitre cuts, edge juice w/ attitude hot, Airdog 150, BD super single, SBC 650 hp dual-disk, Smarty #9, and a brand new tranny