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number5 · 04-19-2008, 02:39 AM

Going with 1/4 inch now 1/8 is too small from test I did

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92 buckboard · 04-19-2008, 11:48 PM

Is this propane setup going to be safe for heavy towing? I pull a 5 horse gooseneck and I'm looking for something to gain mileage and/or decrease fuel costs. I filled up this morning and it was $4.04 for low sulphur but there is only 5 stations in the state that sell the low sulphur, the ulsd is $4.17.OUCH!!!

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**jkidd** · 04-23-2008, 04:03 PM

Diesel and Gaseous Fuels, DualFueling - Engine & fuel engineering FAQ - Eng-Tips

good info

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Hot Stuff · 04-23-2008, 04:22 PM

Man, what a way to ruin a great thread. Please delete that crap a couple posts up.

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number5 · 04-24-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Stuff

Man, what a way to ruin a great thread. Please delete that crap a couple posts up.

Whats up with this?

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syndicate · 04-24-2008, 10:16 PM

Easy number5 there was a post with a bunch of porn links in it to ta tranny site. It has been removed now.

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Glen2504 · 04-28-2008, 05:39 PM

How safe is propane for a diesel engine? im really looking for better mpg but a few hp wouldn't hurt either, im just more concerned about doing damage to my truck than anything.

451Mopar · 05-07-2008, 11:02 AM

Update on DPI.
Monday I received the controller back from MSD, and got it installed after work. Tuesday, I filled the tank with 12-gallons of propane (about 3/4 tank). The cost with tax was $28.40 or 2.27 per gallon.
I drove about 15 miles back to work, and the over head MPG was showing around 30 MPG? (unloaded.) After work, when I got home I could smell propane and started double checking the connections. I found the fitting at my propane filter was leaking (the fitting split down the side.) Thankfully the propane tank has the electrionc shut-off at the tank so when the truck (or propane system) are shut-off, it closes.
Anyhow, I am not sure how much propane the leak wasted. A trip to Lowes Hardware for a new fitting and the problem was fixed.
So far I only have about 50 miles on the system, but in combined highway and city driving, the overhead is showing an increase of around 10+ MPG over what it normally reads. This is whith the propane settings at 50%, starting at 3psi of boost.

Even at 50%, you can tell there is extra power. I set it to come in at 3psi because the truck actually gets decent fuel mialage when driven at boost levels below that.

The big question is how to setup the propane settings for best combined fuel mialage? Adding more propane, or adding it earlier will show increases in Diesel Mialage, but use more propane.

Anyhow, I should be drag racing the truck Friday, and my put a few hundred miles on it over the weekend. This should get me some more data points for comparison, and allow me to hand calculate the mialage.

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McLarenross · 05-24-2008, 01:27 AM

Kinda an old thread but I didnt wat to start a new one. Im putting together my DIY Propane kit and need to know about the kind of hose everyone is useing. Will regular fuel line work for the low pressure side? Its not the pressure I worry about. Will the propane eat the lines at all? I dont think so cause if Gasoline wont I dont think propane will. Do yall think that Fuel line will be ok? Also, how are yall connecting the propane feed nozzle to the air box? Pics would be good.

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tigerfalcon50 · 05-24-2008, 02:16 PM

propane doesn't have any corrosive properties compared to that of diesel or gas so I'm thinking your safe. How much are you building this kit for?? Share the wealth...

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McLarenross · 05-24-2008, 09:27 PM

So far, I have zero dollars in it and only still need the lines and the boost switch. I had most of the things I needed laying around. I used a spare Acetylene regulator I had, a spare propane tank I had, and pulled an electric bottle opener valve off of an old RV. 1/4" Fuel line is $0.70 per foot and the boost switch is ~$25 on E-bay.

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Tec · 05-24-2008, 09:58 PM

I kinda forgot about this thread

Are you going to try the venturi in the intake manifold?

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92 buckboard Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: helena, mt Posts: 119 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts 92 buckboard's Truck Pics	Is this propane setup going to be safe for heavy towing? I pull a 5 horse gooseneck and I'm looking for something to gain mileage and/or decrease fuel costs. I filled up this morning and it was $4.04 for low sulphur but there is only 5 stations in the state that sell the low sulphur, the ulsd is $4.17.OUCH!!! __________________ 92 clubcab 5 speed 4.10 gears, limited slip, slight pump mods. 98 quad cab 12 v long box 5 speed 3.54 gears limited slip 70 hp injectors, fuel plate, boost valve

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jkidd Diesel Auto Power Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverside California Posts: 2,184 Thanks: 37 Thanked 68 Times in 58 Posts jkidd's Truck Pics	Diesel and Gaseous Fuels, DualFueling - Engine & fuel engineering FAQ - Eng-Tips good info __________________ www.DieselAutoPower.com Call Jacob at 951-377-4844 Monday-Saturday 9AM-8PM PST SUPER DEALS on Injection pumps, Fuel systems, Turbos, Twins, Injectors & Programmers, etc. For information on new Products, Rebates, and Promotions check out: www.cumminsforum.com/forum/diesel-auto-power/

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syndicate Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 202 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts syndicate's Truck Pics	Easy number5 there was a post with a bunch of porn links in it to ta tranny site. It has been removed now. __________________ 2005 3500 HD 4x4 CDT auto/with custom TPS VB srw AFE stage II DDP injectors (70 hp )Quadzilla STD Rokktech sensor 4'' turbo back exh EGT Boost Trans guages 402 hp 749 tq on the 60hp setting w injectors

04-28-2008, 05:39 PM	#43 (permalink)
Glen2504 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Glen2504's Truck Pics	How safe is propane for a diesel engine? im really looking for better mpg but a few hp wouldn't hurt either, im just more concerned about doing damage to my truck than anything.

05-07-2008, 11:02 AM	#44 (permalink)
451Mopar Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts 451Mopar's Truck Pics	Update on DPI. Monday I received the controller back from MSD, and got it installed after work. Tuesday, I filled the tank with 12-gallons of propane (about 3/4 tank). The cost with tax was $28.40 or 2.27 per gallon. I drove about 15 miles back to work, and the over head MPG was showing around 30 MPG? (unloaded.) After work, when I got home I could smell propane and started double checking the connections. I found the fitting at my propane filter was leaking (the fitting split down the side.) Thankfully the propane tank has the electrionc shut-off at the tank so when the truck (or propane system) are shut-off, it closes. Anyhow, I am not sure how much propane the leak wasted. A trip to Lowes Hardware for a new fitting and the problem was fixed. So far I only have about 50 miles on the system, but in combined highway and city driving, the overhead is showing an increase of around 10+ MPG over what it normally reads. This is whith the propane settings at 50%, starting at 3psi of boost. Even at 50%, you can tell there is extra power. I set it to come in at 3psi because the truck actually gets decent fuel mialage when driven at boost levels below that. The big question is how to setup the propane settings for best combined fuel mialage? Adding more propane, or adding it earlier will show increases in Diesel Mialage, but use more propane. Anyhow, I should be drag racing the truck Friday, and my put a few hundred miles on it over the weekend. This should get me some more data points for comparison, and allow me to hand calculate the mialage. __________________ 2005 Ram 3500 QQ/LB, Cummins 610/48rfe, AFE2/Stg7, Edge Hot Juice, Magnaflow 5", Banks Techni-cooler/highram kit, MSD/Superchips Digital propane Injection.

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McLarenross Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Shepherd, Texas, USA!!!! (North of Houston a bit) Posts: 187 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post McLarenross's Truck Pics	Kinda an old thread but I didnt wat to start a new one. Im putting together my DIY Propane kit and need to know about the kind of hose everyone is useing. Will regular fuel line work for the low pressure side? Its not the pressure I worry about. Will the propane eat the lines at all? I dont think so cause if Gasoline wont I dont think propane will. Do yall think that Fuel line will be ok? Also, how are yall connecting the propane feed nozzle to the air box? Pics would be good. __________________ 2004.5 2500 4x4. Torque Tube/Silencer Ring MIA. Custom made 3" Intake Horn. Straight pipe'd. Edge Juice w/Attitude. 4" Superlift. H2 wheels w/ 315/70/17s. AirDog 100. Smoke Switch. PROPANE!

05-24-2008, 02:16 PM	#46 (permalink)
tigerfalcon50 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 127 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts tigerfalcon50's Truck Pics	propane doesn't have any corrosive properties compared to that of diesel or gas so I'm thinking your safe. How much are you building this kit for?? Share the wealth... __________________ 2004.5 Ram 2500 5.9L 4x4 3.73s Edge EZ, Willy's Whistler air intake, muffler MIA, lube and filter by AMSOIL, Extang Tono Cover "do yourself a favor, always get your dog or cat spade or neutered and always hand calculate your mileage"

05-24-2008, 09:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
McLarenross Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Shepherd, Texas, USA!!!! (North of Houston a bit) Posts: 187 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post McLarenross's Truck Pics	So far, I have zero dollars in it and only still need the lines and the boost switch. I had most of the things I needed laying around. I used a spare Acetylene regulator I had, a spare propane tank I had, and pulled an electric bottle opener valve off of an old RV. 1/4" Fuel line is $0.70 per foot and the boost switch is ~$25 on E-bay. __________________ 2004.5 2500 4x4. Torque Tube/Silencer Ring MIA. Custom made 3" Intake Horn. Straight pipe'd. Edge Juice w/Attitude. 4" Superlift. H2 wheels w/ 315/70/17s. AirDog 100. Smoke Switch. PROPANE!

05-24-2008, 09:58 PM	#48 (permalink)
Tec Diesel Freak Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 540 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Tec's Truck Pics	I kinda forgot about this thread Are you going to try the venturi in the intake manifold? __________________ 99 CTD DRW 4x4 Auto~ SLT Laramie quad cab~4:10's, Edge Juice w/Attitude, MBRP 4" turboback, AFE Pro Dry S Stage 2, Airdog 150, Amsoil Bypass kit, Bilstein 5100's, HBS leveling kit, upgraded IC boots, BFG commercial T/A traction's,