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stevewix · 11-21-2007, 11:32 PM

interested in hearing more Dodgerep!

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dodgerep · 11-22-2007, 01:35 AM

Yes, those are gains that I have seen. I do tow, every day and I disclosed those results to. I opted to go with a 12a System and 3 addittional bricks, which is what is used on a big rig. The reason being is I needed to be able to go 2-3 months between cleaning the system. I am still required to flush the system every couple thousand miles, takes about 15 mintues and just requires water. I can do it while fueling up. Then every couple months I have to pull the system off and thoroughly clean it.

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josterbauer · 11-22-2007, 11:16 AM

You should take some pics, so the rest of us can see how you ran your system. How does that work with the grid heaters? Where do you put the tubing into the intake of your truck? Any problems with the system yet? This is very interesting.

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dodgerep · 11-22-2007, 11:43 AM

The system is fairly small, and can be mounted a number of places on the truck, mine is mounted under the hood and on the right side firewall. The system is completely self contained and is fed into the intake just prior to the intake manifold, where the rubber boot is.

The system does not effect your truck no matter how you have it set up, it does not store Hydrogen and it produces it as it is needed based on the vacuum created by your intake. There are several web sites that can explain how this works, I have the MagDrive system and am very happy with it, not a single problem.

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josterbauer · 11-22-2007, 12:07 PM

How does that work with the grid heaters? I'm just kind of cautious about putting an explosive gas into the intake before the heaters. Also what about freezing? Today it is only 29 degrees here this morning.

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DNRCUSTOMS · 11-22-2007, 12:59 PM

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How does that work with the grid heaters? I'm just kind of cautious about putting an explosive gas into the intake before the heaters. Also what about freezing? Today it is only 29 degrees here this morning.

Well, Nitrogen in a pure state has a autoignition point of 1000 degrees, So Being there is only a small percentage in the air stream I believe we are ok. I talked to a rep and he said the system will not freeze until 10 below. But I believe you can wrap the units with something to maintain the temp better.

Dodgerep.. What kind of boost #'s are you running towing. Also, running three bricks should be drawing a substantial amount of amps. compared to just one. So because you are running three bricks does that mean you are producing 3 times the hydrogen of one brick? If that is the case, mpg results will be much less with just a single unit. How many miles are you traveling before you need to refill with water supplu tank? thanks

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dodgerep · 11-22-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by josterbauer

How does that work with the grid heaters? I'm just kind of cautious about putting an explosive gas into the intake before the heaters. Also what about freezing? Today it is only 29 degrees here this morning.

Perhaps I was not clear... You are not storing an hydrogen! The hydrogen is actually produced just breif milliseconds before it is pulled via vaccumm into your intake system. A grid heater would have no effect on the system or vice a versa.

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dodgerep · 11-22-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DNRCUSTOMS

Well, Nitrogen in a pure state has a autoignition point of 1000 degrees, So Being there is only a small percentage in the air stream I believe we are ok. I talked to a rep and he said the system will not freeze until 10 below. But I believe you can wrap the units with something to maintain the temp better.

Dodgerep.. What kind of boost #'s are you running towing. Also, running three bricks should be drawing a substantial amount of amps. compared to just one. So because you are running three bricks does that mean you are producing 3 times the hydrogen of one brick? If that is the case, mpg results will be much less with just a single unit. How many miles are you traveling before you need to refill with water supplu tank? thanks

I usually try t okeep my boost between 7-10 as that is the most efficient boost level, but that is under ideal conditions. I usually end up with a 100 mile average of 13.6 PSI. The system is a 12a system, the additional bricks only allow me to increase the intervals for maintenance, this is usually the system that would be used on a big truck, and the increase in mileage is teh same whether running 1 brick or 4. I have the system, that comes with one brick, and I added 3 more at acost of about 200 per brick. cost me about 1600 per truck. The water and bicarbonate is checked at every fill up as Idrive a lot of miles each day 700+, I just do it when I fuel, so Icould not tel lyou how far I could make it if I stretched it, the system will shut down if it runs out.

Soemone was worried about freezing, when you start the truck, let them run up to normal temperature, and then turn the system on. (mine is in the engine compartment) the electrical charge will thaw any ice almost immediately as the system comes on line.

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DNRCUSTOMS · 11-22-2007, 01:40 PM

Sounds good, that is what I am going to do when I get mine. Have it set to ignition pwr, but on a switch so I can turn it on and off when I want. So running empy, no load. you went from say 20mpg to the mid 30's? Also you plumbed it right before the intake horn, wouldn't it be eiser to drill and tap the manifold insted of the intercooler boot. Plus it would be closer to the motor. Just my thought. What do ya think. there must be a reason why you put yours where you did??

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92 4X4 cummins 4" lift, 47rh trans, custom flip shacles in the rear, ,

megadually · 11-22-2007, 02:03 PM

Hopefully there is more than one positive feedback on this. I have become leary about things that sound to good to be true by learning the hard way. If this did what it said why doesn't everyone have them? Hopefully some more people will try this with good results. I have about gone broke trying things that people told me I coulndn't live without. I heard the good side of the propane issue and tried it and didn't see the gains I was told I was going to get and I ended up getting my money back. All I got was a bad cylinder that was blamed on the use of propane. I have ruined 2 CR's listening to other peoples advice so I think it is someone elses turn.

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DNRCUSTOMS · 11-22-2007, 02:28 PM

Yup, I here ya. Cummins dont like propane. They like water. But I;m sure you know that by now. I am gonna get one as soon as the distributer gets the parts in.

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92 4X4 cummins 4" lift, 47rh trans, custom flip shacles in the rear, ,

MNRAM · 11-22-2007, 02:31 PM

I wonder how dealers would view this as far as a warrenty issue on our trucks?

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dodgerep Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 384 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts dodgerep's Truck Pics	Yes, those are gains that I have seen. I do tow, every day and I disclosed those results to. I opted to go with a 12a System and 3 addittional bricks, which is what is used on a big rig. The reason being is I needed to be able to go 2-3 months between cleaning the system. I am still required to flush the system every couple thousand miles, takes about 15 mintues and just requires water. I can do it while fueling up. Then every couple months I have to pull the system off and thoroughly clean it. __________________ Tim Blondin Taylor, Texas...Ya'll!! www.giddyupngo.com

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josterbauer Cummins Nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monticello, MN Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts josterbauer's Truck Pics	You should take some pics, so the rest of us can see how you ran your system. How does that work with the grid heaters? Where do you put the tubing into the intake of your truck? Any problems with the system yet? This is very interesting. __________________ 04.5 ctd cc, auto, 4x4, 2" leveling kit, Quad Commander, Walbro 392 Custom, Smarty Programmer SW3, Afe torque tube, EAAU 4090 air filter, All lubes synthetic amsoil, Muffler gone, Nasta s.s. nerf bars, Access Tonneau Cover NEWEST ADDITION - 2001 qc, auto, 4x4 lb

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dodgerep Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 384 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts dodgerep's Truck Pics	The system is fairly small, and can be mounted a number of places on the truck, mine is mounted under the hood and on the right side firewall. The system is completely self contained and is fed into the intake just prior to the intake manifold, where the rubber boot is. The system does not effect your truck no matter how you have it set up, it does not store Hydrogen and it produces it as it is needed based on the vacuum created by your intake. There are several web sites that can explain how this works, I have the MagDrive system and am very happy with it, not a single problem. __________________ Tim Blondin Taylor, Texas...Ya'll!! www.giddyupngo.com

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josterbauer Cummins Nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monticello, MN Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts josterbauer's Truck Pics	How does that work with the grid heaters? I'm just kind of cautious about putting an explosive gas into the intake before the heaters. Also what about freezing? Today it is only 29 degrees here this morning. __________________ 04.5 ctd cc, auto, 4x4, 2" leveling kit, Quad Commander, Walbro 392 Custom, Smarty Programmer SW3, Afe torque tube, EAAU 4090 air filter, All lubes synthetic amsoil, Muffler gone, Nasta s.s. nerf bars, Access Tonneau Cover NEWEST ADDITION - 2001 qc, auto, 4x4 lb

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DNRCUSTOMS MXer Turned Diesel Nut Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond Mi Posts: 415 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts DNRCUSTOMS's Truck Pics	Sounds good, that is what I am going to do when I get mine. Have it set to ignition pwr, but on a switch so I can turn it on and off when I want. So running empy, no load. you went from say 20mpg to the mid 30's? Also you plumbed it right before the intake horn, wouldn't it be eiser to drill and tap the manifold insted of the intercooler boot. Plus it would be closer to the motor. Just my thought. What do ya think. there must be a reason why you put yours where you did?? __________________ 2006 3500 Mega Cab, S&B intake, Tripple guage cluster, Line X, Skyjacker 2.5 lift, 5100 shocks, Aero Turbine 5" turbo back, bully dog , 305 Mckys on 20" moto metal's, EMS off road Free Spin Kit, Mag Hytec Diff cover, Amsoil Sythetic , Bushwacker fender flares, Custom mud flaps, 92 4X4 cummins 4" lift, 47rh trans, custom flip shacles in the rear, ,

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DNRCUSTOMS MXer Turned Diesel Nut Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond Mi Posts: 415 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts DNRCUSTOMS's Truck Pics	Yup, I here ya. Cummins dont like propane. They like water. But I;m sure you know that by now. I am gonna get one as soon as the distributer gets the parts in. __________________ 2006 3500 Mega Cab, S&B intake, Tripple guage cluster, Line X, Skyjacker 2.5 lift, 5100 shocks, Aero Turbine 5" turbo back, bully dog , 305 Mckys on 20" moto metal's, EMS off road Free Spin Kit, Mag Hytec Diff cover, Amsoil Sythetic , Bushwacker fender flares, Custom mud flaps, 92 4X4 cummins 4" lift, 47rh trans, custom flip shacles in the rear, ,

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