Everyone will need an additive SOON!!!

WorkhorseDiesel · 02-14-2006, 12:52 AM

I have been staying on top of additives, best MPG, best lubricity, etc. for some time now and was notified by a buddy that there is a new government mandate that will cut Sulphur levels in fuels by June of 2006. The new mandate will cut the current level of sulphur in diesel fuel to approximately half of what is allowed right now. So, if you're not using a fuel additive with some sort of lubricity and you're driving a 2nd gen truck, you might want to give it some hard thought and soon cause after June of this year, I have a feeling that many more VP44's are gonna go south. I am working with another friend to secure a distributorship for a new clean burning fuel treatment that in real-world field tests has provided the needed lubricity but at the same time resulted in MPG increases from 10-17% consistently. It provides for an almost 100% efficient burn of the fuel in the engine. It's still very, very new to the diesel market but we'll keep you posted as to when it's widely available to the general public.

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woodsrat · 02-14-2006, 04:16 AM

I'm going with conkiln we carry it in our shop and have seen very good things out of it.

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02-14-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WorkhorseDiesel

I am working with another friend to secure a distributorship for a new clean burning fuel treatment that in real-world field tests has provided the needed lubricity but at the same time resulted in MPG increases from 10-17% consistently. It provides for an almost 100% efficient burn of the fuel in the engine. It's still very, very new to the diesel market but we'll keep you posted as to when it's widely available to the general public.

Wow .....this would be way impressive...................do keep us posted

Grey Wolf · 03-19-2006, 07:57 AM

Here's Chevron Q&A on ULSD....

http://www.chevron.com/products/prod...sel/ulsd.shtml

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illflem · 03-19-2006, 09:18 AM

My understanding is that part of ULSD plant conversions at the refinery is the addition of lubricity additive tank and that federally mandated minimum lubricity will be the same as is it now with low sulfur diesel.
I see the worries about ULSD as a non-issue.

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'95 2500 4wd auto
'95 3500 5 speed heavy hauler
Both far from stock

Grey Wolf · 03-19-2006, 10:05 AM

Bill,

I think the fuel specialists are still not certain in this area as evidenced in the latest article from Light & Medium Truck.....

http://www.ttnews.com/lmt/Feb06/monitor.asp

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318,000 Miles.
'06 2500 SLT SRW Quad Cab 4X4, G56/6 speed, Big Horn edition.

illflem · 03-19-2006, 03:00 PM

Grey Wolf, that article sort of goes in circles.
Makes you wonder who to believe. Probably the best bet would be to use additives until they sort things out.
Personally I'll just keep on using B20 biodiesel and not worry about it.

__________________
Bill
'95 2500 4wd auto
'95 3500 5 speed heavy hauler
Both far from stock

Grey Wolf · 03-19-2006, 03:10 PM

Yeah, they are all trying to cover the unknown at this point. I'm still going to use the additives myself, at least until we some bio around here!

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'93 LE W250 5spd 3.54 White Reg Cab
318,000 Miles.
'06 2500 SLT SRW Quad Cab 4X4, G56/6 speed, Big Horn edition.

03-19-2006, 09:49 PM

Cummins and Bosch have both been testing USLD for the last couple of years to find out the long term effects that ULSD will have on the older trucks. So far they have found some leak and some don't. What they did find out though is that if you had bad seals to begin with, ie they were starting to wear out, then yes they will definatly leak. I would figure that if they just switched over to ULSD and didnt tell you, that you wouldnt notice the difference other then maybe a little power loss. I guess some of the pumps in Cali are already ULSD so it would be nice to see how the trucks are running from there. As for worrying about lubricity I wouldnt much. They have to maintain a min level any ways.

02-14-2006, 12:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
WorkhorseDiesel Tech Specialist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southwest, TX Posts: 768 WorkhorseDiesel's Truck Pics	Everyone will need an additive SOON!!! I have been staying on top of additives, best MPG, best lubricity, etc. for some time now and was notified by a buddy that there is a new government mandate that will cut Sulphur levels in fuels by June of 2006. The new mandate will cut the current level of sulphur in diesel fuel to approximately half of what is allowed right now. So, if you're not using a fuel additive with some sort of lubricity and you're driving a 2nd gen truck, you might want to give it some hard thought and soon cause after June of this year, I have a feeling that many more VP44's are gonna go south. I am working with another friend to secure a distributorship for a new clean burning fuel treatment that in real-world field tests has provided the needed lubricity but at the same time resulted in MPG increases from 10-17% consistently. It provides for an almost 100% efficient burn of the fuel in the engine. It's still very, very new to the diesel market but we'll keep you posted as to when it's widely available to the general public. __________________ 2001.5 White 2500 Reg-cab • 4x4 • NV4500 • 4.10 • BHAF • WALBRO GSL392 • Edge Juice + Attitude • VALAIR HD OFE • Scangauge II • 315 Cooper S/T's • Optimas • custom black grille & blue graphics • Diesel Fuel Treatment is here

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02-14-2006, 04:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
woodsrat Diesel Freak Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 675 woodsrat's Truck Pics	I'm going with conkiln we carry it in our shop and have seen very good things out of it. __________________ 06 MEGACAB 3500 www.runnadm.com OHIO COAL ROLLERS

03-19-2006, 07:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Grey Wolf Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Acton, CA Posts: 38 Grey Wolf's Truck Pics	Here's Chevron Q&A on ULSD.... http://www.chevron.com/products/prod...sel/ulsd.shtml __________________ '93 LE W250 5spd 3.54 White Reg Cab 318,000 Miles. '06 2500 SLT SRW Quad Cab 4X4, G56/6 speed, Big Horn edition.

03-19-2006, 09:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
illflem Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,308 illflem's Truck Pics	My understanding is that part of ULSD plant conversions at the refinery is the addition of lubricity additive tank and that federally mandated minimum lubricity will be the same as is it now with low sulfur diesel. I see the worries about ULSD as a non-issue. __________________ Bill '95 2500 4wd auto '95 3500 5 speed heavy hauler Both far from stock

03-19-2006, 10:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Grey Wolf Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Acton, CA Posts: 38 Grey Wolf's Truck Pics	Bill, I think the fuel specialists are still not certain in this area as evidenced in the latest article from Light & Medium Truck..... http://www.ttnews.com/lmt/Feb06/monitor.asp __________________ '93 LE W250 5spd 3.54 White Reg Cab 318,000 Miles. '06 2500 SLT SRW Quad Cab 4X4, G56/6 speed, Big Horn edition.

03-19-2006, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
illflem Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,308 illflem's Truck Pics	Grey Wolf, that article sort of goes in circles. Makes you wonder who to believe. Probably the best bet would be to use additives until they sort things out. Personally I'll just keep on using B20 biodiesel and not worry about it. __________________ Bill '95 2500 4wd auto '95 3500 5 speed heavy hauler Both far from stock

03-19-2006, 03:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Grey Wolf Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Acton, CA Posts: 38 Grey Wolf's Truck Pics	Yeah, they are all trying to cover the unknown at this point. I'm still going to use the additives myself, at least until we some bio around here! __________________ '93 LE W250 5spd 3.54 White Reg Cab 318,000 Miles. '06 2500 SLT SRW Quad Cab 4X4, G56/6 speed, Big Horn edition.

03-19-2006, 09:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
03CTD Posts: n/a	Cummins and Bosch have both been testing USLD for the last couple of years to find out the long term effects that ULSD will have on the older trucks. So far they have found some leak and some don't. What they did find out though is that if you had bad seals to begin with, ie they were starting to wear out, then yes they will definatly leak. I would figure that if they just switched over to ULSD and didnt tell you, that you wouldnt notice the difference other then maybe a little power loss. I guess some of the pumps in Cali are already ULSD so it would be nice to see how the trucks are running from there. As for worrying about lubricity I wouldnt much. They have to maintain a min level any ways.