Opti lube xpd vs summer blend

jdg · 10-24-2009, 11:46 PM

Ok the xpd mix ratio is 256:1 which gives you a 319 micron improvement. The cost per tank is $4.35. The opti lube rep told me you can get good results using half the recomended ratio which would cut the cost in half but I would think would also cut the micron improvement in half.

The summer blend mix ratio is 3000:1 and it gives you a 189 micron improvement. The cost for this is .68 cents per tank. If we double this ratio I would think again this would double the micron improvement which would make it a better performer than the xpd and would only cost $1.36 per tank.

They both clean injectors.

The xpd does have anti gel good down to -20 deg F (mixed at full strength 256:1)

The xpd also has cetane boost of 3 points ( I am not sure that cetane boost is a good thing tho. From what I have read it speeds up the burn and a slow burn might be better becuase is provides power longer during the power stroke)

I am sure you can all see where this is headed. Since the xpd was the best fuel additive in the lubricity study at 256:1 ratio I would think the summer blend (which ranked 4th in the study at 3000:1 ratio)
would have been well above the xpd if they would have both used the same ratio.

I am by no means an expert just sharing my thoughts and welcome any input from those of you who are more educated in this area. Also thanks to those of you who have already investigated and shared your findings on this subject.

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MikeyB · 10-25-2009, 12:09 AM

Tomorrow I'll start using the summer blend. Planning for 2oz per tank.

MikeyB

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jdg · 10-25-2009, 01:09 AM

I am going to run the same till it gets cold enough to use the xpd

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***Shup1*** · 10-25-2009, 06:14 PM

I am still running the summer blend at 2 oz to 20 (earlier thread I may have listed worng) but I find I have been getting about 1 - 1.5 mpg better (overhead stay between 26.5 * 27.2) I have started driving more consistanly also...easier takeoffs, coast to lights if in city and staying at or below 2k rpm's.

I started with the 1 oz / 20 gal and then moved up thinking the same thing you were, I have not jumped up any further since I am happy right now. Also I do believe the XPD was a experimental when that test was done, if you see the actual report I 'think' that is the way it was listed.

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jdg · 10-26-2009, 11:46 PM

Yes it was experimental but I did read that they havent changed any of the ingrediants from what was in the tested solution. The opti lube rep even offered to help fund another test with a over the counter dose of the xpd so I am thinking it must be the same as tested.

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Moparman · 10-27-2009, 03:32 AM

I run XPD and it gives me a quieter motor and 2+mpg. I'm very happy with it.

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jdg · 10-27-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moparman

I run XPD and it gives me a quieter motor and 2+mpg. I'm very happy with it.

How long have you been running the xpd?
I just got my xpd and summer blend in yesterday and I put one oz of each in and was amazed it realy does make a difference in the sound and milage must be some good stuff.

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Moparman · 10-27-2009, 11:19 PM

Since January. I use the oil additive too.

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10-24-2009, 11:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
jdg Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hays Kansas Posts: 155 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts jdg's Truck Pics	Opti lube xpd vs summer blend Ok the xpd mix ratio is 256:1 which gives you a 319 micron improvement. The cost per tank is $4.35. The opti lube rep told me you can get good results using half the recomended ratio which would cut the cost in half but I would think would also cut the micron improvement in half. The summer blend mix ratio is 3000:1 and it gives you a 189 micron improvement. The cost for this is .68 cents per tank. If we double this ratio I would think again this would double the micron improvement which would make it a better performer than the xpd and would only cost $1.36 per tank. They both clean injectors. The xpd does have anti gel good down to -20 deg F (mixed at full strength 256:1) The xpd also has cetane boost of 3 points ( I am not sure that cetane boost is a good thing tho. From what I have read it speeds up the burn and a slow burn might be better becuase is provides power longer during the power stroke) I am sure you can all see where this is headed. Since the xpd was the best fuel additive in the lubricity study at 256:1 ratio I would think the summer blend (which ranked 4th in the study at 3000:1 ratio) would have been well above the xpd if they would have both used the same ratio. I am by no means an expert just sharing my thoughts and welcome any input from those of you who are more educated in this area. Also thanks to those of you who have already investigated and shared your findings on this subject. __________________ 2005 4x4 6spd. stock Engine has also been borred and overhauled at 60,000 prevous owner cooked it.4" hushpower cat mia.

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10-25-2009, 12:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
MikeyB Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tomball, Texas Posts: 1,187 Thanks: 2 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts MikeyB's Truck Pics	Tomorrow I'll start using the summer blend. Planning for 2oz per tank. MikeyB __________________ '03 2500 QC SWB 2wd, 305/555, NV5600, 3.73 LS, Airbox mod w/Amsoil Ea, Adjustable boost elbow, PML diff cover, Westach boost/EGT gauge, Line-X, Sirius, Toyo OC AT 285/70/17 E, Daystar 1.5" lift, Monroe Reflex, Raptor RP100, Lazarsmith Intake, Smarty/Van Aaken C3.2

10-25-2009, 01:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
jdg Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hays Kansas Posts: 155 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts jdg's Truck Pics	I am going to run the same till it gets cold enough to use the xpd __________________ 2005 4x4 6spd. stock Engine has also been borred and overhauled at 60,000 prevous owner cooked it.4" hushpower cat mia.

10-25-2009, 06:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Shup1* Cummins Nut Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Apollo Beach (before it was rich) Florida Posts: 462 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Shup1's Truck Pics	I am still running the summer blend at 2 oz to 20 (earlier thread I may have listed worng) but I find I have been getting about 1 - 1.5 mpg better (overhead stay between 26.5 * 27.2) I have started driving more consistanly also...easier takeoffs, coast to lights if in city and staying at or below 2k rpm's. I started with the 1 oz / 20 gal and then moved up thinking the same thing you were, I have not jumped up any further since I am happy right now. Also I do believe the XPD was a experimental when that test was done, if you see the actual report I 'think' that is the way it was listed. __________________ 2006 2wd 2500 - CFM intake - Amsoil oil bypass -Aero 4040XL Muffler - K&N Air - Cool Blue Hose - Delvac Rotella oil, everything else Amsoil - Alpin 505 / Blackbird nav / XM (XM 202 Sirius 197 - O&A RnF) , Optilube Summer blend Future: Coolant Filter, External tranny filter

10-26-2009, 11:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
jdg Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hays Kansas Posts: 155 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts jdg's Truck Pics	Yes it was experimental but I did read that they havent changed any of the ingrediants from what was in the tested solution. The opti lube rep even offered to help fund another test with a over the counter dose of the xpd so I am thinking it must be the same as tested. __________________ 2005 4x4 6spd. stock Engine has also been borred and overhauled at 60,000 prevous owner cooked it.4" hushpower cat mia.

10-27-2009, 03:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Moparman Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: arlington tx Posts: 963 Thanks: 24 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Moparman's Truck Pics	I run XPD and it gives me a quieter motor and 2+mpg. I'm very happy with it. __________________ 2006 white quad cab Dodge dually, G56, True Flow XDI air filter system, FilterMag, am/fm/cd/sirius, Fluidampr, LineX bedliner, 3.73, gooseneck hitch, Mag-Hytec rear diff cover, rear bags w/ in-cab controls, P235/80R17 Michelin LTX M&S on stock wheels

10-27-2009, 11:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Moparman Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: arlington tx Posts: 963 Thanks: 24 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Moparman's Truck Pics	Since January. I use the oil additive too. __________________ 2006 white quad cab Dodge dually, G56, True Flow XDI air filter system, FilterMag, am/fm/cd/sirius, Fluidampr, LineX bedliner, 3.73, gooseneck hitch, Mag-Hytec rear diff cover, rear bags w/ in-cab controls, P235/80R17 Michelin LTX M&S on stock wheels