Adding 2 stroke oil?

Hiwayman92 · 10-24-2009, 09:03 PM

I just read an article in Diesel Power Mag. that showed a 1 mpg increase when adding ashless tcw-3 oil at a concentration of 200:1. I am looking at giving this a whorl, but I wanted to see if this will not work for cold climates. It is starting to get down into the 20's at night here, and will be getting colder soon. Is this a warm weather mod only, or does this work in any weather?

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***kulman66*** · 10-24-2009, 09:15 PM

I would think that it woudnt effect the fuel due to weather atleast here the gas stations start getting treated fuel at the end of october for cooler weather(N.Y up state)
but maybe someone knows more ?

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kaiserbailey · 10-24-2009, 11:21 PM

The two stroke oil actually has a lower pour point than diesel fuel, so you're fine.

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Hiwayman92 · 10-24-2009, 11:50 PM

Are you guys running any? At 200:1, and 10 bucks per gallon, I think it is worth the 1 mile per gallon huh? Especially when I am heading on a long trip coming up. I think I will buy a couple gallons and try in out. Sounds like better milage and quieter, smoother motor operation. Anyone care to add?

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AdamRRT · 10-25-2009, 12:00 AM

Yeah it's a GOOD Winter additive.

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2001 Corvette C5. Tuned by BLUECAT.

04Dodge · 10-25-2009, 12:13 AM

Let us know if it actually gets you a fuel mileage increase. Been running two stroke in mine for over a year, and there is no difference in fuel mileage with or without.

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Hiwayman92 · 10-25-2009, 12:20 AM

But you still run it... does it make the motor run smoother? If I don't get the milage, I probably would discontinue use..

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kaiserbailey · 10-25-2009, 01:26 AM

People don't run it for the mileage, in fact, some users report a loss of fuel economy. It is used for lubricity.

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AdamRRT · 10-25-2009, 01:34 AM

True. Even though I am friends with a chemist at an oil company that says that sulfer doesn't add lubricity (despite what we say online). Not sure how true that is. Everyone says that sulfer was a lubricant, but it COULD be just an internet myth. Message boards DO have a tendency to perpetuate such things to the point that they take on their own life. Not saying that's the case here. Just that I've seen no more valid source than him.

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2006 Mega 2500. Smarty, XZII, HOT J/A (gauges), HTS trans, Edge TC, GM gov sol, AirDog II, Silverline muffler, 35's on 18's, 4" lift, -cat, -baffles, -silencer.
2001 Corvette C5. Tuned by BLUECAT.

TJT-Rav · 10-25-2009, 01:43 AM

Do a search, there are countless threads on this.

What Anti-Gel does everyone use?

Read Mopar1973man's 2nd post on page 30 of this thread.

Used engine oil.

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AdamRRT · 10-25-2009, 01:45 AM

Yeah, threads. I'm very well aware of them. But any valid info other than one internet persona making unsubstantiated claims? Just because it's commonly parroted info doesn't mean it is - or isn't - correct.

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2006 Mega 2500. Smarty, XZII, HOT J/A (gauges), HTS trans, Edge TC, GM gov sol, AirDog II, Silverline muffler, 35's on 18's, 4" lift, -cat, -baffles, -silencer.
2001 Corvette C5. Tuned by BLUECAT.

rook1322 · 10-25-2009, 01:57 AM

Running 16 oz per full tank has improved my MPG by .5-1.0 MPG. It also runs smoother. I figure it can only help.

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10-24-2009, 09:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hiwayman92 Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Pinedale, Wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Hiwayman92's Truck Pics	Adding 2 stroke oil? I just read an article in Diesel Power Mag. that showed a 1 mpg increase when adding ashless tcw-3 oil at a concentration of 200:1. I am looking at giving this a whorl, but I wanted to see if this will not work for cold climates. It is starting to get down into the 20's at night here, and will be getting colder soon. Is this a warm weather mod only, or does this work in any weather? __________________ 2005 Dodge 2500 Crew Cab Long Box,5.9L Cummins H.O., 48RE, 295/70/17 Toyo M/T's, Silencer Ring 'MIA', 5'' TBE

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10-24-2009, 09:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
*kulman66* MUFIA ! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: up state N.Y Posts: 43 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts kulman66's Truck Pics	I would think that it woudnt effect the fuel due to weather atleast here the gas stations start getting treated fuel at the end of october for cooler weather(N.Y up state) but maybe someone knows more ? __________________ 2005 4x4 cool tube ,edge jucedw/att silencer ring stolen with muffler Afe stage1 sticker in back window.

10-24-2009, 11:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
kaiserbailey Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts kaiserbailey's Truck Pics	The two stroke oil actually has a lower pour point than diesel fuel, so you're fine. __________________ '05 2500 4x4 QC/SB, 33" BFG AT, Ranch Hands, 5" Magnaflow TBE, Banks Ram Air Intake, Banks Intercooler, Banks High Ram Intake Manifold, Fass 150gph, Smarty, MP-8, FTE Rail Cap, Autometer Phantom II: EGT, Boost, Tranny Temp, Fuel Pressure, Fumoto Valve, Amsoil

10-24-2009, 11:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hiwayman92 Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Pinedale, Wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Hiwayman92's Truck Pics	Are you guys running any? At 200:1, and 10 bucks per gallon, I think it is worth the 1 mile per gallon huh? Especially when I am heading on a long trip coming up. I think I will buy a couple gallons and try in out. Sounds like better milage and quieter, smoother motor operation. Anyone care to add? __________________ 2005 Dodge 2500 Crew Cab Long Box,5.9L Cummins H.O., 48RE, 295/70/17 Toyo M/T's, Silencer Ring 'MIA', 5'' TBE

10-25-2009, 12:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
AdamRRT Diesel Freak Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ashland, KY Posts: 788 Thanks: 54 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts AdamRRT's Truck Pics	Yeah it's a GOOD Winter additive. __________________ 2006 Mega 2500. Smarty, XZII, HOT J/A (gauges), HTS trans, Edge TC, GM gov sol, AirDog II, Silverline muffler, 35's on 18's, 4" lift, -cat, -baffles, -silencer. 2001 Corvette C5. Tuned by BLUECAT.

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04Dodge Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 284 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts 04Dodge's Truck Pics	Let us know if it actually gets you a fuel mileage increase. Been running two stroke in mine for over a year, and there is no difference in fuel mileage with or without. __________________ 2004 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4, Black, Laramie, HO 305/555, 48RE, 3.73's, American Racing Rims with 315/70-17's, Lorenz 2" leveling kit, Bilstein 5100 Shocks, Edge Juice w/ Attitude, IceBox Cold Air Intake, 4" Aero Turbine Exhaust, CFM+ Intake, FASS 95/95

10-25-2009, 12:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hiwayman92 Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Pinedale, Wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Hiwayman92's Truck Pics	But you still run it... does it make the motor run smoother? If I don't get the milage, I probably would discontinue use.. __________________ 2005 Dodge 2500 Crew Cab Long Box,5.9L Cummins H.O., 48RE, 295/70/17 Toyo M/T's, Silencer Ring 'MIA', 5'' TBE

10-25-2009, 01:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
kaiserbailey Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts kaiserbailey's Truck Pics	People don't run it for the mileage, in fact, some users report a loss of fuel economy. It is used for lubricity. __________________ '05 2500 4x4 QC/SB, 33" BFG AT, Ranch Hands, 5" Magnaflow TBE, Banks Ram Air Intake, Banks Intercooler, Banks High Ram Intake Manifold, Fass 150gph, Smarty, MP-8, FTE Rail Cap, Autometer Phantom II: EGT, Boost, Tranny Temp, Fuel Pressure, Fumoto Valve, Amsoil

10-25-2009, 01:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
AdamRRT Diesel Freak Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ashland, KY Posts: 788 Thanks: 54 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts AdamRRT's Truck Pics	True. Even though I am friends with a chemist at an oil company that says that sulfer doesn't add lubricity (despite what we say online). Not sure how true that is. Everyone says that sulfer was a lubricant, but it COULD be just an internet myth. Message boards DO have a tendency to perpetuate such things to the point that they take on their own life. Not saying that's the case here. Just that I've seen no more valid source than him. __________________ 2006 Mega 2500. Smarty, XZII, HOT J/A (gauges), HTS trans, Edge TC, GM gov sol, AirDog II, Silverline muffler, 35's on 18's, 4" lift, -cat, -baffles, -silencer. 2001 Corvette C5. Tuned by BLUECAT.

10-25-2009, 01:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
TJT-Rav Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 236 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts TJT-Rav's Truck Pics	Do a search, there are countless threads on this. What Anti-Gel does everyone use? Read Mopar1973man's 2nd post on page 30 of this thread. Used engine oil. __________________ '01 3500 Dually 6 spd, AFE stage 2 intake, AFE 4" exhaust brake back, 50hp injectors, 65hp Bulldog + boost elbow, HD clutch, AD 150 in the box in the spare bedroom..ugh, Amsoil dual bypass, NOT a 53 block, big and shiny. Last edited by TJT-Rav : 10-25-2009 at 02:11 AM.

10-25-2009, 01:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
AdamRRT Diesel Freak Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ashland, KY Posts: 788 Thanks: 54 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts AdamRRT's Truck Pics	Yeah, threads. I'm very well aware of them. But any valid info other than one internet persona making unsubstantiated claims? Just because it's commonly parroted info doesn't mean it is - or isn't - correct. __________________ 2006 Mega 2500. Smarty, XZII, HOT J/A (gauges), HTS trans, Edge TC, GM gov sol, AirDog II, Silverline muffler, 35's on 18's, 4" lift, -cat, -baffles, -silencer. 2001 Corvette C5. Tuned by BLUECAT.

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rook1322 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Woodbury, TN Posts: 137 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts rook1322's Truck Pics	Running 16 oz per full tank has improved my MPG by .5-1.0 MPG. It also runs smoother. I figure it can only help. __________________ 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Sport 6-speed with a few bolt-ons --Thanks AMJ Performance!