Is your truck on the pill?

[Jakey's'01H.O.]

send me a blank check and ill experiment alot!

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So the TAG isnt Snake Oil ???

DM

according to illflem the TAG is actually good if ya tow.....thats when ya see the milage go up

News to me Thanks

I dont Tow so Im not in the need of wanting a Bee Hive in me Turbo inlet ,,, whew

DM

[cummin69]

anyone broke down & tried it yet? a friend had some of it & it had the very distinct odor of moth balls.

[WorkhorseDiesel]

Originally Posted by cummin69

anyone broke down & tried it yet? a friend had some of it & it had the very distinct odor of moth balls.

OK guys, I actually found something elsewhere about this new little miracle pill but it wasn't until I saw this on here that I decided to do some research. Well, you know, it doesn't take long to smell a rat! Or, in this case, moth balls. Some research on the company that "produces" these pills comes back with the President being a Minister-turned-Multi-level marketing guru . Now how many REAL ministers do you know that would support or better yet, lead a pyramid type scheme. The company website spends about 40% of it's content on this product and about 60% trying to suck you into it's marketing program where you can purchase $149 worth of pills to become a rep and then only have to pay $59 a month for 80 pills for your own personal use. If anyone beyond moronic intelligence does the math, there's NO WAY ON EARTH you could sell additional product and use the ones that you're being charged for every month, even if you have AMAZING mileage gains. Several chemists also chimed in pointing out how the notion of adding a simple additive could realign the hydrocarbon chains in your tank and bring the efficiency of a gas engine beyond even that of a diesel. Further research shows that the President and his partner in "crime", the guy who supposedly developed the additive (funny how his bio doesn't show any type of scientific education or training, all marketing mumbo-jumbo) own 51% and 49% of this publicly traded company. Oh, and their goal on the site is not to change the way fuel is consumed on the Earth, which I would probably be looking at if I had come up with something that could do what they claim, but to create 1,000 millionaires in this company. Furthermore, a chemical engineer did some looking into and pretty much said their explanation for the process by which the pills work is nothing more than psycho-bable. Claims of mileage increases started at the 20% mark and are now being touted at 35%. You'd think if this was such an incredible break-through product they would have tested it to know EXACTLY what kind of results to expect on a consistent basis. The EPA number for their product that's listed on their site is for ANOTHER product, not these pills. Likewise, certified mechanics, old & new, both have warned that similar products surfaced in the 70's and lots of people fell pray to those back then. Remember the magnet on the gas line that was supposed to give you better mileage. Tons were sold but you don't hear about them anymore. Another scientist looking into this stated that the make-up of the pills when analyzed came back reading as identical to camphor i.e. compressed moth balls. FYI, moth balls WILL increase mileage, but the downside is clogged injector pumps, fuel lines, injectors, etc. So, to all those pushing this product, and believe me there are already THOUSANDS of believers out there (think about it, the leader's a minister who knows how to convince people to BELIEVE) STAY OFF THIS FORUM!!! Common sense would tell you that if there WAS a breakthrough like this, the inventor would be recognized with a Nobel Prize and they wouldn't have to market it themselves, cause there would be offers in the millions & possibly billions of dollars from oil companies and the like to either mass market or buy out their rights. Remember the guy with the 200 mile per gallon carburetor, and yes, it did work. He sold his blueprints to ExxonMobil I believe for an undisclosed amount. Lastly, when you do some simple thinking about how this product works. You go to the filling station and drop in anywhere from 2-14 pills for the first two tanks (this is based on a Cummins with a 35 gallon tank). Then you add 6 pills per tank for every tank thereafter. If these pills aren't dissolving completely, or at all (read below), at some point, the bulk of putting all this material in your tank would take up space in the tank and you'd see it like your mileage was going up with each tank. Til the tank gets clogged or full at some point. From the last things I read on the net, the company is now recommending that customers crush the pills before they put them in. This is just so disturbing to me. That there's so much potential for this thing to be a BIG GIANT SCAM and those using the pills don't see anything wrong because most have become part of the company. If anyone is curious, the pills are being sold for anywhere from $1 to $1.50 EACH!!! So, even if you're seeing an increase n mileage, you're putting a lot of extra money into the pill box as far as I can see. As a born skeptic, all I can say to my friends on here is BUYER BEWARE!!! My $8000 Cummins is a bit too expensive to be using as a guinea pig and besides, with modifications, we've still got the most economic train-pulling beasts on the road. Oh, and by the way, there IS a new fuel treatment coming (see my signature below) but it doesn't work via smoke and mirrors....LOL

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[dodge*this]

i believe that is a world record for the longest post ever

[WorkhorseDiesel]

Originally Posted by dodge*this

i believe that is a world record for the longest post ever

Sorry about the SUPER-LONG post but if it helps anyone on here from losing their hard earned money or worst yet, destroying their Cummins engines then it's worth it to me. I'll be posting more on this as facts become available. ** NEWEST UPDATE ** 2/18/06 - The company is now changing their policy so that all new orders have a 21-day waiting period. Furthermore, the company doesn't accept credit card orders, ONLY check or money orders made out to the President of the company??? This is starting to look creepier by the minute.

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[Rattler]

of this additive, which you mention in your sig. What co. is the research & developer? Inquiring minds wanna know.

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[WorkhorseDiesel]

Originally Posted by Rattler

of this additive, which you mention in your sig. What co. is the research & developer? Inquiring minds wanna know.

Unfortunately RATTLER, a friend and I are currently trying to secure a distributorship so I can't really give you details other than the ones posted in the sig. But, rest assured AS SOON as we do get set up, we'll give you MUCH MORE information. I can tell you it's NOT some fly-by-night additive that someone came up with by dropping something in their tank. And, it DOESN'T come in pill form It's been tested on a wide array of vehicles in a number of differing applications and so far the tests have come back with consistent results. There will be plenty of spec sheets and hard evidence to support how it works and the benefits it provides. Additionally, I think the most impressive evidence to support it is the testimony of the test users to date. They're not just JOE BLOW from Peoria, but truck fleets, bus fleets, engine manufacturers, and city fleet vehicles with well-kept records (i.e. mileage, emissions, cost-efficiency data). I'm sorry that I can't say more than what I have but we WILL post links as soon as our situation will allow.

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Could we get a hint as to when you plan to uvail the new product???

[WorkhorseDiesel]

Thanks for the interest Whitmore. I am now an authorized distributor for the product and am testing it in several vehicles. We're currently working on the website where we'll give you the opportunity to find out how it works, what benefits you can expect, and plenty of testimonials from users. So far, I'm pretty impressed with the results. I'm also working to get together enough trial runs personally to give you guys an idea of what a 2nd gen Cummins can see when running it. I'm thinking probably sometime within the next 2 weeks I'll post more info and get it going. Stay tuned!!!

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