Turbo

65Catalina · 02-24-2008, 03:26 PM

Hey, im lookin into getting a turbo and i found a BD super single, w/ downpipe brand new for $1100. thats a fairly good price right? Also, Im not sure if a turbo is the next step for me. Right now i have 4" turbo back exhaust, custom 4" intake w/1200 cfm filter, Edge Juice w/ attitude, and an airdog 150 gph fuel system. Im barely blowing any smoke, and pushing 43 pounds of boost. Should I do injectors before a turbo, or can i do the turbo first?

Evil Twin · 02-24-2008, 03:29 PM

you can do the turbo first then add injectors....just remember you need fuel to spool the turbo so you may not see any power gains until you add more fuel

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65Catalina · 03-03-2008, 07:58 AM

But on the othe had woudnt bigger injectors push the stock turbo too hard? or would they just be somewhat limited by the stock turbo?

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Evil Twin · 03-03-2008, 08:00 AM

you can over drive the stocker and the EGT's will be high

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CumminsFan04 · 03-03-2008, 08:01 AM

Depending on what size you go with...Stock turbo with big injectors will equal a HOT EGT's, Smokey, and boost past the safe limit for the stock turbo most likely...

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***moparfan1234*** · 03-03-2008, 08:04 AM

get both at the same time

my .02

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***06ramcummins*** · 03-03-2008, 08:08 AM

it could be the programmer not giving you the smoke you want. every truck acts different wih each programmer.

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TerribleONE453 · 03-24-2008, 12:24 AM

yea i have a 5" exhaust and intake with the juice w/ attitude and blow smoke like crazy on level 5

65Catalina · 03-24-2008, 01:02 AM

so i ended up going with the turbo, and the hot unlock, at that fuels it plenty, right up too almost 3000 rpm but my egts hit 1450 a couple times for just a second or two...what do you guys recommend for lower egt's?

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03 3500 DRW cummins, 4" custom intake, 6" black mitre cuts, hot edge juice w/ att., Airdog 150, dps twins, SB 650 hp DD, So6, arson cp3 kit and a brand new nv5600

jd_2001 · 03-24-2008, 01:14 AM

being able to hit 1450 wont hurt. i think most trucks on here can hit 1450. if you get there real easy then there is a problem. with that turbo you should be ok. if you want to be real safe about it do water meth. im runnin jammer 3's with my stocker and it's ok. but i can hit 1600 if i get on it.

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Bandits Diesel · 03-24-2008, 01:23 AM

if i were you i would get the turbo that amount of boost is dangerous for a stock turbo. cummins says not to boost much higher than 30-35 psi with the hx-35. and trust me you dont want to see the damage a busted compressor wheel can do to a motor. and yes the bd is a great turbo for the money, i ran one on my truck for 11 months @ 45 psi. and i was at the 550 hp mark before i removed it for a much larger one. they hold up really well. but at 40+ psi you are over speeding the turbo its too small for that.

65Catalina · 03-24-2008, 12:00 PM

Well I am still worried about the egt's because i plan on getting a smarty and some injectors when the money comes, and im thinking i should do an intercooler first, or water meth, what would you guys recommend?

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03 3500 DRW cummins, 4" custom intake, 6" black mitre cuts, hot edge juice w/ att., Airdog 150, dps twins, SB 650 hp DD, So6, arson cp3 kit and a brand new nv5600

02-24-2008, 03:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
65Catalina Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 72 65Catalina's Truck Pics	Turbo Hey, im lookin into getting a turbo and i found a BD super single, w/ downpipe brand new for $1100. thats a fairly good price right? Also, Im not sure if a turbo is the next step for me. Right now i have 4" turbo back exhaust, custom 4" intake w/1200 cfm filter, Edge Juice w/ attitude, and an airdog 150 gph fuel system. Im barely blowing any smoke, and pushing 43 pounds of boost. Should I do injectors before a turbo, or can i do the turbo first?

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02-24-2008, 03:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Evil Twin Administrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga ont. Canada Posts: 7,364 Evil Twin's Truck Pics	you can do the turbo first then add injectors....just remember you need fuel to spool the turbo so you may not see any power gains until you add more fuel __________________ 2001 4X4 Q-cab Sport black, full billet DTT trans, billet F-plate Mach 7's, B1-B2 twins, Blue Chip Special X VP, Adrenaline, studded & O-ringed, BD-RAD,Flex-A-Lite electric fans, Autometer Gages, Egt, Boost,Fuel, Oil &,drive pressure, trans temp, RASP, Big line kit, Track bars 2" leveling kit, 271 T-case, DSS, 3rd gen trac bar 623 HP 1175tq with old set-up

03-03-2008, 07:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
65Catalina Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 72 65Catalina's Truck Pics	But on the othe had woudnt bigger injectors push the stock turbo too hard? or would they just be somewhat limited by the stock turbo? __________________ 03 3500 DRW cummins, 4" custom intake, 6" black mitre cuts, hot edge juice w/ att., Airdog 150, dps twins, SB 650 hp DD, So6, arson cp3 kit and a brand new nv5600

03-03-2008, 08:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Evil Twin Administrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga ont. Canada Posts: 7,364 Evil Twin's Truck Pics	you can over drive the stocker and the EGT's will be high __________________ 2001 4X4 Q-cab Sport black, full billet DTT trans, billet F-plate Mach 7's, B1-B2 twins, Blue Chip Special X VP, Adrenaline, studded & O-ringed, BD-RAD,Flex-A-Lite electric fans, Autometer Gages, Egt, Boost,Fuel, Oil &,drive pressure, trans temp, RASP, Big line kit, Track bars 2" leveling kit, 271 T-case, DSS, 3rd gen trac bar 623 HP 1175tq with old set-up

03-03-2008, 08:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
CumminsFan04 Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mt. Pleasant PA Posts: 641 CumminsFan04's Truck Pics	Depending on what size you go with...Stock turbo with big injectors will equal a HOT EGT's, Smokey, and boost past the safe limit for the stock turbo most likely... __________________ '01.5 Ram 2500 Sport Q/C S/B 6spd Cummins 4x4 -Few things...

03-03-2008, 08:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
*moparfan1234* Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: neligh nebraska Posts: 861 moparfan1234's Truck Pics	get both at the same time my .02 __________________ 99, 2500, 4x4, 5 speed, adrenaline, icebox, banks 4in turbo back, ATS intake and exhaust, banks pryo and boost gauges. dd valair clutch, airdog 150 threw jbarker best sevice ever period.

03-03-2008, 08:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
*06ramcummins* Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saginaw Posts: 578 06ramcummins's Truck Pics	it could be the programmer not giving you the smoke you want. every truck acts different wih each programmer. __________________ 06 3/4 4x4, Stage 3 ATS tranny w/ five star convertor, auto meter phantom II,aurora 3000, 3% tint all around black beauty, AFE stage II, Smarty TNT, air dog 100, camo seat covers, kicks ystem, 18's moto metal ,33x12.50 baja atz

03-24-2008, 12:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
TerribleONE453 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10 TerribleONE453's Truck Pics	yea i have a 5" exhaust and intake with the juice w/ attitude and blow smoke like crazy on level 5

03-24-2008, 01:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
65Catalina Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 72 65Catalina's Truck Pics	so i ended up going with the turbo, and the hot unlock, at that fuels it plenty, right up too almost 3000 rpm but my egts hit 1450 a couple times for just a second or two...what do you guys recommend for lower egt's? __________________ 03 3500 DRW cummins, 4" custom intake, 6" black mitre cuts, hot edge juice w/ att., Airdog 150, dps twins, SB 650 hp DD, So6, arson cp3 kit and a brand new nv5600

03-24-2008, 01:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
jd_2001 Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 798 jd_2001's Truck Pics	being able to hit 1450 wont hurt. i think most trucks on here can hit 1450. if you get there real easy then there is a problem. with that turbo you should be ok. if you want to be real safe about it do water meth. im runnin jammer 3's with my stocker and it's ok. but i can hit 1600 if i get on it. __________________ 2001 2500 white ext cab /edge comp /edge jammer 5's/nitrous/II silver62/hot rod vp44/fass150/studs-orings/ ported polished/valve springs/fluid dampr/southbend fe.

03-24-2008, 01:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bandits Diesel Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chatsworth Ga Posts: 57 Bandits Diesel's Truck Pics	if i were you i would get the turbo that amount of boost is dangerous for a stock turbo. cummins says not to boost much higher than 30-35 psi with the hx-35. and trust me you dont want to see the damage a busted compressor wheel can do to a motor. and yes the bd is a great turbo for the money, i ran one on my truck for 11 months @ 45 psi. and i was at the 550 hp mark before i removed it for a much larger one. they hold up really well. but at 40+ psi you are over speeding the turbo its too small for that.

03-24-2008, 12:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
65Catalina Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 72 65Catalina's Truck Pics	Well I am still worried about the egt's because i plan on getting a smarty and some injectors when the money comes, and im thinking i should do an intercooler first, or water meth, what would you guys recommend? __________________ 03 3500 DRW cummins, 4" custom intake, 6" black mitre cuts, hot edge juice w/ att., Airdog 150, dps twins, SB 650 hp DD, So6, arson cp3 kit and a brand new nv5600