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Old 10-18-2012, 08:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The pump noise is normal.

Only thing I would add is if youhave removed your OEM lift pump do not mess withthe gasket that is behind the mounting bracket. I did and the first time I put it together it didn't seal right. Ticked me off.
I have an AD 165, I removed all of the old fuel system. The old filter housing is gone, along with the mounting bracket and old lift pump. I used the shorter bold from the lift pump bracket to replace the longer bolts on the intake to seal it back up. the spot on the block where the old lift pump mounted it a flat surface with 2 bolt holes in it. I dont know of anything that could leak? maybe I am missing somehting??

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Sound like you're on the right track man. I just did my tappet cover a few months ago, along with resealing the vacuum pump. It's not very intimidating once ya get in there. Hope it all goes back together for ya, good luck!

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Thanks man. I looked at my vacuum pump and it doesnt look to be leaking.. I have the P0216, so I will be back in there sooner than later so if its leaking Ill get it then.

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Old 10-18-2012, 06:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I hear ya...yeah mine want leaking nearly as much as I thought it was but once I got in there to replace the tappet cover gasket I figured I might as well reseal it, heck it only takes 20min.

-SHIZ! Fire le missiles!
...but I'm le tired.

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Well I feel like a dumb @$$..... I found my oil leak, the tappet cover was leaking, but just enought to cause everything to look wet. My real leak was coming from the lift pump black off plate.. or lack there of..

When I put my airdog on I removed everything from my old fuel system, even the bracket that held the old lift pump. Well, then I didnt know that there was a hole back there, why would there be? The gasket came off the lift pump bracket clean, not a spec of gasket was left on it. The gasket was left on the hole, covering it, and sealing it about 80%. at a glance, I thought it was part of the block and kept going with the lift pump swap. After reading a post above about that bracket having a gasket, i thought I should look and see what I was missing. Well when I put my hand on the "block" the gasket pealed back and my jaw bounced off the finder....

This is what I saw: Sorry about the blurry pics, My phone lens had oil on it..

with gasket


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Lucky for me, I still had the lift pump and bracket. I cut the bracket down and put it back on with a health helping of high temp RTV.

Since I am already down there, and have everyting torn down, I will replace the tappet seal...

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-SHIZ! Fire le missiles!
...but I'm le tired.

Hahaha!
well then take a nap.......

THEN FIRE LE MISSILES!!!!!!!!

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I was wondering about that when you said you just removed the old bracket haha! Gotta love it when it's something simple...and nothing gets hurt

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My truck all of a sudden started spewing oil when I got home today. Best I can tell, it's the cover on the side of the motor. Is this tappet cover also referred to as the engine side cover?

I can tell it's on the left side of the motor, but it's pretty hard to tell from where exactly.

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My truck all of a sudden started spewing oil when I got home today. Best I can tell, it's the cover on the side of the motor. Is this tappet cover also referred to as the engine side cover?

I can tell it's on the left side of the motor, but it's pretty hard to tell from where exactly.

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Yes, the tappet cover, push rod cover and engine side cover are all the same part. It just depends on where you are looking as to what they are called.

I crawled all under, over and even tried going threw over the tire and under the finder with a light trying to see where my leak was coming from. The gasket is cheap, but I dont see how you could ever get the front cover bolt out with the IP in the way. Removing the injection pump is really not bad. I took mine out and swapped injectors in less than 4 hours. There are plenty of videos out there on youtube, and Mopar1973man.com. I was a pro even before I turned the 1st wrench.
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My engine has been spitting oil out of that same area as well, at first I thought is was my rear main but I have been doing some more looking and investigating and have realized it is coming out the left side of the block. So it looks like ill be tearing er down and replacing that seal as well. Where is the best place to find that seal? And what else should I be replacing in my adventure?

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My engine has been spitting oil out of that same area as well, at first I thought is was my rear main but I have been doing some more looking and investigating and have realized it is coming out the left side of the block. So it looks like ill be tearing er down and replacing that seal as well. Where is the best place to find that seal? And what else should I be replacing in my adventure?

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The vacuum/power steering pump is right under the ip, so if yours is leaking this would be the time do it wile the up is out of the way. Other than that, I don't know of any other seals. There is one behind the stock lift pump bracket but I used RTV on that.

I bought my taller cover gasket from AutoZone. It came with the little round gaskets for the bolts. It was pretty cheap.
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Thanks FiveNine! I will look into the power steering/Vacuum pump also. Hopefully this will take care of my oil leaking issue. Is this Tappet cover a common thing to leak on the Cummins??
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Thanks FiveNine! I will look into the power steering/Vacuum pump also. Hopefully this will take care of my oil leaking issue. Is this Tappet cover a common thing to leak on the Cummins??
Mine was not really leaking, it was seeping though. Once i got everything was torn down I found my real leak. I had taken the stock lift pump bracket off and the gasket had stayed on the block.

the tappet cover gasket does not need rtv.
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I went to Auto Zone today and asked about this gasket. The part number they came up with is PS50397R, is that the same P/N you found there? They had no idea what I was talking about so I wanna make sure this is the right part before I buy it.
I still have that bracket on, My truck is basically stock. But I will pull that off and clean it and RTV it just to be safe.
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