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Old 03-09-2012, 11:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well started tearing into the transmissino tonight. Got about everything done that I can for the moment. Need to go pick up a gear puller tomorrow and I should be good to go. Here's a couple pictures for sh**ts and giggles.

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Old 03-10-2012, 09:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I wanted to go with valair's 600 hp ceramic clutch. I dont tow often but when i do its a pretty hefty load. one of my buddies HAD a ceramic clutch until the first time he had to pull a trailer home...needless to say he didnt make it lol.

But what I was trying to tell you with the crossmember is that you do NOT need a bottlejack and a block of wood. it seriously took me less that 5 minutes to get it out and all i used was a small hand sledge. there are notches in the frame behind where the crossmember is so all you have to do is remove all your crossmember bolts, jack the trans up enough to clear the soft mount on your crossmember and give it a few nice taps with the hammer towards the rear of the truck. once you get it to those notches it falls right out...and thats no joke it fell right on my legs I wouldnt want to tweak my frame rails if I didnt have to but thats just me.

It says your in lima so im assuming you go to UNOH? you should be fine

falls out and nice taps haha, ya right. everyone i have done never comes out easy. hopefully when we do his it wont be to bad
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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falls out and nice taps haha, ya right. everyone i have done never comes out easy. hopefully when we do his it wont be to bad
Shoot son......getting this trans back together will make everything else look like a walk in the park haha.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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falls out and nice taps haha, ya right. everyone i have done never comes out easy. hopefully when we do his it wont be to bad
I think you misunderstood what i meant by a "few nice taps". what i meant was beat the hell out of it until it gets to those notches in the frame, then it WILL fall out. assuming your trucks not a rust bucket
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on a different note, have you started digging into your t-case yet? i got mine apart last weekend, put the new input shaft in and noticed about 1/4 inch end play in the shaft... so i pulled everything back apart and seen the difference between the lips on each shaft. i called dodge and ordered the wider bearing for the input shaft so hopefully that takes care of it. ive just never read about anyone having issues with this before so im hoping someone who has swapped these shafts can chime in here about it...
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Yea I'm wondering about the transfercase to I have the np241 dld did you order the shaft for the dhd on eBay are they the same
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i got the whole kit with everything i needed from balsley's in PA. he gave me the input shaft for the tcase with my kit but he said its the only 29 splined shaft they have available for those 241's. i had to order the roller bearing and get a freeze plug for inside the input shaft, that stuff wasnt the issue. the problem i am having is when you set the two shafts side by side on the bench and look at the lips on them (where the shaft makes contact going thru the front of the tcase) there is a noticeable difference (about 1/4 inch). so when i put the shaft in, i had about 1/4 inch of end play where the input shaft would move in and out. so i pulled it back apart, called the mechanic at balsley's where i got the kit, told him again that ive got the 241dld, he assured me that the input shaft is the only difference in the dld and the dhd and he told me that there are two different input bearings used on the 241's, a wide and a narrow. so i ordered a wide bearing from dodge for a 241dhd. should have a chance to get it in this weekend and see if that takes care of the end play.
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I haven't gotten to the swap yet. Going to do it this weekend. Almost have the transmission completely back together. As far as the tcase goes, I did a bulk order off eBay and got my tail housing along with the 29 spline input shaft and didn't know which bearing I was going to need so I got both a narrow and wide bearing but I'm pretty sure the wide bearing is the one you'll need.
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Yea I'm wondering about the transfercase to I have the np241 dld did you order the shaft for the dhd on eBay are they the same
the dhd and dld input shafts are different


and rammins12 i dont think you should have play in the input shaft
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:37 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Blackcoal is right. DLD and DHD input shafts are different. The input shaft I got is for a DLD.
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I just want to add that after having had this trans apart and now it's about ready to be buttoned back up that it definitely was not as bad as I thought it was gonna be. This is the first time that I have actually messed with a transmission. I do have to say a big thanks to my buddy blackcoal for helping me out though, otherwise I would have been completely lost haha. With that said here are a couple more pictures.

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All back together, well almost.

And with that said I will never take a trans to a shop ever again. All that needs done yet is I'm probably gonna have to shim up the main shaft a little bit yet as there is just a tad to much end play and then wait for my split washer kit to get here, which should be Thursday and then the trans will be all back together and hopefully it will shift into all the gears lol. If that all goes well I'll be swapping the trans in here this weekend.
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the dhd and dld input shafts are different


and rammins12 i dont think you should have play in the input shaft

thats why it puzzled me when i got everything in and seen the end play. the shaft they gave me is the same shaft they give everyone they sell their kits to. ill post a picture on here with the two shafts side by side so you can see what im talking about. it makes sense that the wider input bearing would take care of it, but i will just have to wait and see.
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