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jitt08 · 11-06-2009, 07:34 PM

telling you to keep trying to turn the motor over and over is not a good idia killing batts will soon happen or worce bad starter

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***Prowelder*** · 11-06-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kummins84

no!!!!!!!! well im gonna bump it a few more time to see what happens.

Hey,

If that doesn't work, try loosening the injectors as mentioned above and see what happens.

After you bump it a while and it won't start (hopefully it does) you could flip the drain valve again and make sure there is fuel in there!

Good-Luck,
Winslow

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, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

***Prowelder*** · 11-06-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jitt08

telling you to keep trying to turn the motor over and over is not a good idia killing batts will soon happen or worce bad starter

Hey,

Not cranking it, bumping it to get the lift pump to run!! Big difference!!!!!!!!

Later,
Winslow

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Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!

, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

98whitelightnin · 11-06-2009, 07:42 PM

Like jitt said, youve got air in the lines and youve got to get it out before it will ever start. Your gonna have to loosen a couple injector lines at the head and blead the air out. Dont engage the starter more than 30 seconds at a time and let it cool down for a minute or so between.

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Last edited by 98whitelightnin : 11-06-2009 at 07:44 PM.

kummins84 · 11-06-2009, 07:47 PM

ok i bumped acouple of time and it started. i turned it off and now when i turn the key the wait to start light doesnt come on at all like it should.

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***Prowelder*** · 11-06-2009, 07:53 PM

Hey,

How long did it sit before you turned the key back on???

Later,
Winslow

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Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!

, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

kummins84 · 11-06-2009, 08:12 PM

like two mins, i went back out there and the light came back on like should. I love this place, glad i became a member

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***Prowelder*** · 11-07-2009, 01:32 AM

Hey,

Good to hear!!!!! The grid heater only kicks on if the IAT (intake air temp) is low enough!

BTW-

Glad to have you aboard!!!!!!

Later,
Winslow

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Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!

, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

***Mopar1973Man*** · 11-07-2009, 10:40 AM

Wow! what a mess...

Ok... Here we go...

1. Reprime the fuel system. The reason for this is when you drained the fuel filter housing you allowed air to enter the fuel system. The injection pump is like the brake system it can't pump air bubbles. So hence the truck won't start.
Reprime Fuel System

2. As for that P1689 error code here is som diagnostic information about that code and hopfully its not a failure problem. Check your fuel pump relay if you pulled this relay (or the relay was bad, or fuse blown) the power supply to the VP44 was dissconnected hence tripping the code.
VP44 Error Codes

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bmac · 11-07-2009, 02:19 PM

Yeah, bleed the fuel lines as kummings84 states. If you can't get air out of the system, make sure your lift pump is pushing at least 8PSI. If you got fuel, bled lines and are still not starting, let us know.....

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UtahDodgeCummins · 11-07-2009, 02:19 PM

Would an aftermarket fuel system like an airdog still be affected by that fuel relay, or is that relay by passed with a different relay? I have a friend pulling this code and he has a FASS system.

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*Prowelder* 01 Cummins Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burden, Kansas Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 68 Thanked 106 Times in 99 Posts Prowelder's Truck Pics	Hey, How long did it sit before you turned the key back on??? Later, Winslow __________________ Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

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*Prowelder* 01 Cummins Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burden, Kansas Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 68 Thanked 106 Times in 99 Posts Prowelder's Truck Pics	Hey, Good to hear!!!!! The grid heater only kicks on if the IAT (intake air temp) is low enough! BTW- Glad to have you aboard!!!!!! Later, Winslow __________________ Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

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jitt08 Diesel Freak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: lower central NY but in the sunshine state right now Posts: 604 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts jitt08's Truck Pics	telling you to keep trying to turn the motor over and over is not a good idia killing batts will soon happen or worce bad starter __________________ 99 3500 auto 2WD DRW mosty stock 5" straight pipe 100 raptor fuel pump silencer ring m.i.a.261k and counting http://myspace.com/jitt08 and my email is jitt08@myspace.com

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98whitelightnin Diesel Head Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 3,433 Thanks: 13 Thanked 44 Times in 43 Posts 98whitelightnin's Truck Pics	Like jitt said, youve got air in the lines and youve got to get it out before it will ever start. Your gonna have to loosen a couple injector lines at the head and blead the air out. Dont engage the starter more than 30 seconds at a time and let it cool down for a minute or so between. __________________ 98 24v, 2500 sc, auto, 4x4, LO 359hp/744tq 03 2500 4d, 6speed, 4x4, "Well oil beef hooked" Last edited by 98whitelightnin : 11-06-2009 at 07:44 PM.

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kummins84 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: tx Posts: 15 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts kummins84's Truck Pics	ok i bumped acouple of time and it started. i turned it off and now when i turn the key the wait to start light doesnt come on at all like it should. __________________ 2002, 4x4, auto, ext. cab

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kummins84 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: tx Posts: 15 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts kummins84's Truck Pics	like two mins, i went back out there and the light came back on like should. I love this place, glad i became a member __________________ 2002, 4x4, auto, ext. cab

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*Mopar1973Man* www.Mopar1973Man.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Meadows, Idaho Posts: 11,043 Thanks: 209 Thanked 584 Times in 457 Posts Mopar1973Man's Truck Pics	Wow! what a mess... Ok... Here we go... 1. Reprime the fuel system. The reason for this is when you drained the fuel filter housing you allowed air to enter the fuel system. The injection pump is like the brake system it can't pump air bubbles. So hence the truck won't start. Reprime Fuel System 2. As for that P1689 error code here is som diagnostic information about that code and hopfully its not a failure problem. Check your fuel pump relay if you pulled this relay (or the relay was bad, or fuse blown) the power supply to the VP44 was dissconnected hence tripping the code. VP44 Error Codes __________________ Michael Nelson - 2002 Dodge Cummins For Technical Assistance With Your 24V 2nd Generation Cummins - Click Here! Or Search CF.Com for an Answer Remember to smack the *THANKS!* button for those that helped you or you think that post is helpful to others!

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bmac Cummins Nut Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Paoli, PA (outside Philly) Posts: 343 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts bmac's Truck Pics	Yeah, bleed the fuel lines as kummings84 states. If you can't get air out of the system, make sure your lift pump is pushing at least 8PSI. If you got fuel, bled lines and are still not starting, let us know..... __________________ 1999 dually 4x4, Edge Level 5, DD 3 injectors, Full ATS Trans and Co-Pilot, FASS150, Custom TDR Cam, ATS 3-piece Header, Custom Down Pipe, Banks High Flow Intake, Propane, 4:10 Gearing, AmSoil front to back, 5-inch exhaust, 1500 watts (I can't hear the engine)

11-07-2009, 02:19 PM	#23 (permalink)
UtahDodgeCummins Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 83 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts UtahDodgeCummins's Truck Pics	Would an aftermarket fuel system like an airdog still be affected by that fuel relay, or is that relay by passed with a different relay? I have a friend pulling this code and he has a FASS system. __________________ '00 2500 Auto QuadCab ShortBed 86k- BD performance elbow, 4" straight piped exhaust, AirDog 100 w/custom bracket, Low Fuel pressure sensor, autometer boost and pyro guages, Van Aaken CPC controller, 55 block.