Wastgate Not Working Please (help)

MPCAMPERS · 11-06-2009, 02:17 PM

I DONT THINK THE WASTGATE IS WORKING . I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE IT BY HAND?

THE VAC PART SEEMS TO BE WORKING FINE BUT THE GATE ITSELF WOULD NOT MOVE I HAD TO USE PLYERS TO MOVE IT

. IT IS STILL HARD TO MOVE BUT IT MOVES NOW I SPRAYED PENATRATING OIL ON IT AND KEPT WORKING IT. IS THIS SOMETHING I NEED TO REPLACE? WHAT SHOULD I DO??

THANKS

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2001 DODGE QUAD CAB SHORT BED, STOCK 5.9, AUTO.

***Nitrous340*** · 11-06-2009, 04:06 PM

The spring in the wg head is a tight mofo... Use air PRESSURE to activate and move the WG head. What makes you think its not working?

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MPCAMPERS · 11-06-2009, 07:54 PM

I Could Move The Head That You Are Saying To Add Air To. But The Gate Lever On The Exhaust Pipe Would Not Move At All I Had To Take Plyers To It To Make It Move, Then I Had To Move It Slow And A Small Amout At A Time.working It To Larger Movements.it Also Seemed To Hang Up Or Stick As It Moved.
I Am Getting Codes P1693 ,po216, Po234.
I Know What P1693 Is And Po216, And I Was Told Po234 Was The Wastgate. So I Was Checking It Out And This Is What I Found.you Can Tell Me I Am Wrong

I Have A Rebuilt Vp44 On The Way.
I Need To Make It Run As Good As Possible, I Will Be Towing A 40' Fifthwheel In 4 Weeks And Dont Need Troble On The Road. I Have Onle Had The Truck A Short Time. I Know It Has Had A New Lift Pump In Stalled.i Belive It Is Factery, But It Will Have To Do Untell A Latter Time I Have Had The Tranny Checked Out And It Is In Good Condition.for The Most Part The Truck Runs Strong And For The Time I Have Hade It It Been Mostly Hy Miles.the Trubo Has Never Got So Hot It Turn Red.that Is About All I Can Tell You About The Truck
Thanks

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***Prowelder*** · 11-06-2009, 08:00 PM

Hey,

Here are the codes:

http://mopar.mopar1973man.com/pdf/error-codes.pdf

Yes the P0234 is the "boost too high" code and leads to the waste-gate possibly being a problem.

It could be related to the VP going out, but not sure... I don't know why the turbo would put out more boost...

More than likely the wastegate it bad.

Do you have any gauges?

You really need gauges if you plan to tow with it and fuel pressure no matter what. Also you better plan on upgrading the lift pump!!

Later,
Winslow

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Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!

, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

Last edited by Prowelder : 11-06-2009 at 08:03 PM.

Contrite · 11-06-2009, 08:07 PM

It Is So Much Extra Work To Type Like This. LOL

Seriously, good luck with your problem. I'm sure the knowledgeable guys here will get you all straightened out.

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MPCAMPERS · 11-06-2009, 08:14 PM

NO THERE IS NO GAUGES. THAT IS SOMETHING I NEED TO GET, FROM WHAT I AM HEARING IT IS ALMOST A (MUST DO).BUT AGEEN I AM LOOKING AT($s)

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MPCAMPERS · 11-06-2009, 08:16 PM

What Other Way Is There To Type??? I Meen I Would Love It If I Could Just Talk To It But It Will Not Listen!!

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MPCAMPERS · 11-06-2009, 08:42 PM

Should I What Tell I Install The Vp44?? See What Happens

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***Prowelder*** · 11-07-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPCAMPERS

Should I What Tell I Install The Vp44?? See What Happens

Hey,

That's what I would do!

It could say you some green!!!

What he's saying is "caping" every first letter, Like This, instead of, like this. See the difference? Not a big deal, just saying!!

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Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!

, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

Dracozny · 11-07-2009, 03:10 AM

and since you mentioned factory lift pump, get a raptor, airdog, or fass. that stock LP is a pure gamble.

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1999 2500 Laramie 4x4, Longbed, nv4500, goose neck hitch, boost/pyro gauges, raptor 100.

***Mopar1973Man*** · 11-07-2009, 10:32 AM

Yeap you got a wastegate that is sticking closed. I would look into pulling the turbo off and cleaning and freeing up that wastegate so its smooth.

As for the P0216 code you VP44 is heading for a dirt nap and the lift pump is the cause so replace both!

While your at it install some gauges at least... (Fuel pressure, boost, and pyro)

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nickg · 11-07-2009, 11:27 AM

As a bare min you need to monitor the fuel pressure. if you just put a stock LP back in the truck, it might last a week or a yr, they are so hit and miss. but if you invest in a mechanical gauge and some hose, you should spend under 100$ to plumb it in. if thats too much get a warning light, Cummins has a kit (50-60$ I think) or just buy the sender (25$) and get a LED from radio shack.
This is not the best way of watching your fuel pressure but at least its better than nothing!

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11-06-2009, 02:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
MPCAMPERS Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: IOWA Posts: 24 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts MPCAMPERS's Truck Pics	Wastgate Not Working Please (help) I DONT THINK THE WASTGATE IS WORKING . I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE IT BY HAND? THE VAC PART SEEMS TO BE WORKING FINE BUT THE GATE ITSELF WOULD NOT MOVE I HAD TO USE PLYERS TO MOVE IT. IT IS STILL HARD TO MOVE BUT IT MOVES NOW I SPRAYED PENATRATING OIL ON IT AND KEPT WORKING IT. IS THIS SOMETHING I NEED TO REPLACE? WHAT SHOULD I DO?? THANKS __________________ 2001 DODGE QUAD CAB SHORT BED, STOCK 5.9, AUTO.

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*Nitrous340* Horse Power JUNKIE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,715 Thanks: 2 Thanked 43 Times in 34 Posts Nitrous340's Truck Pics	The spring in the wg head is a tight mofo... Use air PRESSURE to activate and move the WG head. What makes you think its not working? __________________ 2001 2500 4x4 PDR HX-40, PSC brace, Hamilton 110 springs, Fluidamper, ARP studs, Adrenalin, DDP 150, custom intake, 4" straight pipe, AIRDOG 150, BD black FP, Suncoast billet trans, 3-disc converter, 3rd Gen Brakes, Thuren 3rd Gen track bar. RIP grandpa "Red" 10-11-08 WAGNAAR MOTORSPORTS

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*Prowelder* 01 Cummins Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burden, Kansas Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 68 Thanked 106 Times in 99 Posts Prowelder's Truck Pics	Hey, Here are the codes: http://mopar.mopar1973man.com/pdf/error-codes.pdf Yes the P0234 is the "boost too high" code and leads to the waste-gate possibly being a problem. It could be related to the VP going out, but not sure... I don't know why the turbo would put out more boost... More than likely the wastegate it bad. Do you have any gauges? You really need gauges if you plan to tow with it and fuel pressure no matter what. Also you better plan on upgrading the lift pump!! Later, Winslow __________________ Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!! Last edited by Prowelder : 11-06-2009 at 08:03 PM.

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11-06-2009, 07:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
MPCAMPERS Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: IOWA Posts: 24 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts MPCAMPERS's Truck Pics	I Could Move The Head That You Are Saying To Add Air To. But The Gate Lever On The Exhaust Pipe Would Not Move At All I Had To Take Plyers To It To Make It Move, Then I Had To Move It Slow And A Small Amout At A Time.working It To Larger Movements.it Also Seemed To Hang Up Or Stick As It Moved. I Am Getting Codes P1693 ,po216, Po234. I Know What P1693 Is And Po216, And I Was Told Po234 Was The Wastgate. So I Was Checking It Out And This Is What I Found.you Can Tell Me I Am Wrong I Have A Rebuilt Vp44 On The Way. I Need To Make It Run As Good As Possible, I Will Be Towing A 40' Fifthwheel In 4 Weeks And Dont Need Troble On The Road. I Have Onle Had The Truck A Short Time. I Know It Has Had A New Lift Pump In Stalled.i Belive It Is Factery, But It Will Have To Do Untell A Latter Time I Have Had The Tranny Checked Out And It Is In Good Condition.for The Most Part The Truck Runs Strong And For The Time I Have Hade It It Been Mostly Hy Miles.the Trubo Has Never Got So Hot It Turn Red.that Is About All I Can Tell You About The Truck Thanks __________________ 2001 DODGE QUAD CAB SHORT BED, STOCK 5.9, AUTO.

11-06-2009, 08:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Contrite Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 51 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contrite's Truck Pics	It Is So Much Extra Work To Type Like This. LOL Seriously, good luck with your problem. I'm sure the knowledgeable guys here will get you all straightened out. __________________ 2001 QCSB 4x4 SLT 6spd manual - Skyjacker 3" lift kit - 4" exhaust - AirDog - ScanGaugeII confirmed 21.5mpg - BD Trackbar Conversion - Banks Big Hoss module (soon to be replaced by an Edge Comp) - running 305/70/16's - Valair clutch & flywheel on the way

11-06-2009, 08:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
MPCAMPERS Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: IOWA Posts: 24 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts MPCAMPERS's Truck Pics	NO THERE IS NO GAUGES. THAT IS SOMETHING I NEED TO GET, FROM WHAT I AM HEARING IT IS ALMOST A (MUST DO).BUT AGEEN I AM LOOKING AT($s) __________________ 2001 DODGE QUAD CAB SHORT BED, STOCK 5.9, AUTO.

11-06-2009, 08:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
MPCAMPERS Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: IOWA Posts: 24 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts MPCAMPERS's Truck Pics	What Other Way Is There To Type??? I Meen I Would Love It If I Could Just Talk To It But It Will Not Listen!! __________________ 2001 DODGE QUAD CAB SHORT BED, STOCK 5.9, AUTO.

11-06-2009, 08:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
MPCAMPERS Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: IOWA Posts: 24 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts MPCAMPERS's Truck Pics	Should I What Tell I Install The Vp44?? See What Happens __________________ 2001 DODGE QUAD CAB SHORT BED, STOCK 5.9, AUTO.

11-07-2009, 03:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
Dracozny Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Linn County, Oregon Posts: 622 Thanks: 3 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts Dracozny's Truck Pics	and since you mentioned factory lift pump, get a raptor, airdog, or fass. that stock LP is a pure gamble. __________________ 1999 2500 Laramie 4x4, Longbed, nv4500, goose neck hitch, boost/pyro gauges, raptor 100.

11-07-2009, 10:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
*Mopar1973Man* www.Mopar1973Man.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Meadows, Idaho Posts: 11,043 Thanks: 209 Thanked 584 Times in 457 Posts Mopar1973Man's Truck Pics	Yeap you got a wastegate that is sticking closed. I would look into pulling the turbo off and cleaning and freeing up that wastegate so its smooth. As for the P0216 code you VP44 is heading for a dirt nap and the lift pump is the cause so replace both! While your at it install some gauges at least... (Fuel pressure, boost, and pyro) __________________ Michael Nelson - 2002 Dodge Cummins For Technical Assistance With Your 24V 2nd Generation Cummins - Click Here! Or Search CF.Com for an Answer Remember to smack the *THANKS!* button for those that helped you or you think that post is helpful to others!

11-07-2009, 11:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
nickg Diesel Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 1,507 Thanks: 1 Thanked 49 Times in 45 Posts nickg's Truck Pics	As a bare min you need to monitor the fuel pressure. if you just put a stock LP back in the truck, it might last a week or a yr, they are so hit and miss. but if you invest in a mechanical gauge and some hose, you should spend under 100$ to plumb it in. if thats too much get a warning light, Cummins has a kit (50-60$ I think) or just buy the sender (25$) and get a LED from radio shack. This is not the best way of watching your fuel pressure but at least its better than nothing! __________________ 2001, 2500 Edge J/A Hot unlocked,Magna flow exhaust. Jammer II's. BHAF, Airdog 150,DSS,3rd gen Track Bar. Carli Suspension, 3rd gen Brake upgrade, transgo Shift Kit. Firestone AirBags May 07 297,000kms Jun/09 455,000kms RETIRED Military Mechanic (20yrs)