Shifting style on manual trans. - Page 2

MnDLawn · 11-03-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lbdodge24v

I will say this though. My truck doesn't like being shifted clutchless. But my jeep with the nv4500 does it with no problems

, it will just slide through the gears perfectly without the clutch.

My guess would be because the Jeep is lighter.

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cmns2500 · 11-03-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lbdodge24v

I will say this though. My truck doesn't like being shifted clutchless. But my jeep with the nv4500 does it with no problems

, it will just slide through the gears perfectly without the clutch.

so will mine.....slips right in

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***Prowelder*** · 11-03-2009, 11:42 PM

Hey,

I do both, depending on how I feel and where I'm at. If I'm trying to boogie fast I use the clutch, but if I've been driving for several hours, I try not to use the clutch b/c I get tired of moving my left leg!

My truck doesn't care to much, but it will tell you when you screwed up!!

I read years ago in a 4 wheel mag that shifting without the clutch is easier on the transmission/ synchos if done properly, not ramming/ jamming gears!

Also you got to think that in big trucks the clutch is only used to start out with, and yes I know the transmissions are different.

I've clutchless shifting in just about every car we've got around here. My moms '03 Mazda doesn't like it much, but it can be done smoothly if you practice (I don't on it). My '71 VW I would clutchless shift alot when I drove it everyday. Works on most, but the Dodge does it the easiest!!!!

I usually let the truck get around 2000 RPMs slide the shifter out, let the RPMs drop and slid her in gear! Works about 90%+ of time, but sometimes if you aren't paying attention it won't go, or will grind!!

I takes some practice to get it smooth and not to grind, but is really handy when driving in town, or just driving a lot!!

You could add a third area in the poll some of use who do both!?!?!?

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Last edited by Prowelder : 11-03-2009 at 11:45 PM.

lbdodge24v · 11-04-2009, 12:06 AM

THink it is too late for the third option now lol. I just wanted it to be fairly straight forward and no grey areas on the poll. The guy at the dealer that usually works on my truck says to shift it clutchless is best, and the guy that rebuilt it said the same, unless you grind.

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***Prowelder*** · 11-04-2009, 12:11 AM

Hey,

Well I voted clutchless then!! I don't think is anything wrong with either if you do it right!

Later,
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**SOUTHERN SMOKE** · 11-04-2009, 12:14 AM

you can do it either way, but our tranny are a totally different beast than those of an 18 wheeler, if not careful, you can fry the synchros, and ruin a carrier bearing...

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little red cummins · 11-04-2009, 12:39 AM

i do both as well. all depends if i feel like liftin my leg or not

run er up in the rpms...slide it out as yer lettin yer foot of the go pedal...let er drop bout 500rpms and slide er into the next gear.

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metalli445 · 11-04-2009, 12:58 AM

I didn't vote because I do both. Of course you need the clutch to get going. I find 2nd to 3rd is hard to do smoothly. Its hit or miss. 3-4, 4-5, 5-6 I have no problems at all going between the gears. The majority of the time I'll use the clutch but its easily done without.

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dieseljim · 11-04-2009, 12:59 AM

well in the trucks i run around i do both i work in a truck garage and the boys from eaton transmission said we put the clutch there for a reason use it but i will agree you find the sweet spot and she will do what you want

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cowsmowmygrass · 11-04-2009, 01:27 AM

I hadn't got the hang of it yet. Will commonly shift to neutral when slowing, but not shifting up or down yet. May try it soon.

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Dracozny · 11-04-2009, 01:35 AM

upshifting:
from 2nd to 3rd its the clutch although i can shift without its just such a short gear its more of a pain since i often over rev. from 3rd to 4th its a finicky beast and 90% of the time I'm slammin the clutch in anyways. from 4th to 5th its easy as heck to shift without.
down shifting:
from 5th to 4th no probs. 4th to 3rd its fine, beyond that there just is not enough road before the signal light or idiot traffic in front of me. 3rd slows me down enough that i usually just drop to neutral and coast that last 10 feet with the brake.
I haven't had to tow with this girl yet so maybe it will be different in that circumstance.

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little red cummins · 11-04-2009, 01:49 AM

haha good point. i forgot bout down shiftin without the clutch! i can usually get it into all the way down to 3rd as well...then run out of realestate.

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View Poll Results: How do you shift?
Use Clutch for every shift	136	73.91%
No clutch for shifting	48	26.09%
Voters: 184. You may not vote on this poll

11-03-2009, 11:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
*Prowelder* 01 Cummins Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burden, Kansas Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 68 Thanked 106 Times in 99 Posts Prowelder's Truck Pics	Hey, I do both, depending on how I feel and where I'm at. If I'm trying to boogie fast I use the clutch, but if I've been driving for several hours, I try not to use the clutch b/c I get tired of moving my left leg! My truck doesn't care to much, but it will tell you when you screwed up!! I read years ago in a 4 wheel mag that shifting without the clutch is easier on the transmission/ synchos if done properly, not ramming/ jamming gears! Also you got to think that in big trucks the clutch is only used to start out with, and yes I know the transmissions are different. I've clutchless shifting in just about every car we've got around here. My moms '03 Mazda doesn't like it much, but it can be done smoothly if you practice (I don't on it). My '71 VW I would clutchless shift alot when I drove it everyday. Works on most, but the Dodge does it the easiest!!!! I usually let the truck get around 2000 RPMs slide the shifter out, let the RPMs drop and slid her in gear! Works about 90%+ of time, but sometimes if you aren't paying attention it won't go, or will grind!! I takes some practice to get it smooth and not to grind, but is really handy when driving in town, or just driving a lot!! You could add a third area in the poll some of use who do both!?!?!? Later, Winslow __________________ Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!! Last edited by Prowelder : 11-03-2009 at 11:45 PM.

11-04-2009, 12:11 AM	#17 (permalink)
*Prowelder* 01 Cummins Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burden, Kansas Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 68 Thanked 106 Times in 99 Posts Prowelder's Truck Pics	Hey, Well I voted clutchless then!! I don't think is anything wrong with either if you do it right! Later, Winslow __________________ Black 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Shortbed, Ext. Cab 4x4, 5.9 24 valve, TCW-3, 2-cycle oil in every tank, 54 Block!!, NV 4500, 3.55 gears, Anti-spin, B&W Turnover Gooseneck Hitch, Autometer Ultra-Light Boost, EGT, and Fuel pressure gauges, Valair 13" Kevlar/Ceramic 3400 lb Single Disc Clutch, Valair Upgraded Hydraulics, Edge Comp Programer, 3" Straight pipe for now, BHAF with custom 7075 T-6 Heat Shield, AFE Torque Tube, Air Dog II DF-165 with custom cover!!

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11-04-2009, 12:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
lbdodge24v Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 146 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts lbdodge24v's Truck Pics	THink it is too late for the third option now lol. I just wanted it to be fairly straight forward and no grey areas on the poll. The guy at the dealer that usually works on my truck says to shift it clutchless is best, and the guy that rebuilt it said the same, unless you grind. __________________ 02 Dodge Ram CTD, 6 spd. with some power adder parts. The Toy: 93 Jeep Wrangler, rolling on 44 in Boggers, powered by a Cummins with some smoke !!

11-04-2009, 12:39 AM	#19 (permalink)
little red cummins Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: apalachin, ny Posts: 888 Thanks: 3 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts little red cummins's Truck Pics	i do both as well. all depends if i feel like liftin my leg or not run er up in the rpms...slide it out as yer lettin yer foot of the go pedal...let er drop bout 500rpms and slide er into the next gear. __________________ 2002 2500 4x4 6spd. 3rd Gen. Recon Cab Lights. SB single disk. HOT edge J/A. FASS 150. BHAF and Outer Wear. Silencer ring MIA. 6'' aussies. leveled. 315 procomp m/t. B&W Gooseneck Hitch. Cobra 29 w/ dual 4ft Firesticks. Cumstom Front Bumper. Soon to have 4.10s

11-04-2009, 12:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
metalli445 Diesel Freak Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 898 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts metalli445's Truck Pics	I didn't vote because I do both. Of course you need the clutch to get going. I find 2nd to 3rd is hard to do smoothly. Its hit or miss. 3-4, 4-5, 5-6 I have no problems at all going between the gears. The majority of the time I'll use the clutch but its easily done without. __________________ 2005 2500 QC, 4x4, Short Bed, SB 3600 DD, NV5600 6 Spd, 35/12.5/17, Amsoil 6080, straight pipe, boost fooler, Smarty TNT setting 5, Dipricol Pyro, Boost, & Fuel Press, Straight pipe, weatherguard truck box, silencer ring gone, HID's, Cobra 29 WX NW ST

11-04-2009, 12:59 AM	#21 (permalink)
dieseljim Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: chardon ohio Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts dieseljim's Truck Pics	well in the trucks i run around i do both i work in a truck garage and the boys from eaton transmission said we put the clutch there for a reason use it but i will agree you find the sweet spot and she will do what you want __________________ COUNTRY BOYS 2003 DODGE CUMMINS 5.9 35inch BF ALLTERAINS 6INCH MITERS STACKS AFE STAGE 2 INTAKE SMARTY MP8 STACKED SOMEONE STOLE MY SILENCER RING HEAVY RIGHT FOOT

11-04-2009, 01:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
cowsmowmygrass Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cut n Shoot Texas Posts: 16 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts cowsmowmygrass's Truck Pics	I hadn't got the hang of it yet. Will commonly shift to neutral when slowing, but not shifting up or down yet. May try it soon. __________________ 2009 3500 Lone Star Edition, 6.7L, Quad cab, 160.5 WB, DRW, 6 spd man, 3.42 axle ratio, 17mpg empty, 13 mpg towing 16K. 3rd Ram Diesel I have owned 1992, 2001, 2009.

11-04-2009, 01:35 AM	#23 (permalink)
Dracozny Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Linn County, Oregon Posts: 623 Thanks: 3 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts Dracozny's Truck Pics	upshifting: from 2nd to 3rd its the clutch although i can shift without its just such a short gear its more of a pain since i often over rev. from 3rd to 4th its a finicky beast and 90% of the time I'm slammin the clutch in anyways. from 4th to 5th its easy as heck to shift without. down shifting: from 5th to 4th no probs. 4th to 3rd its fine, beyond that there just is not enough road before the signal light or idiot traffic in front of me. 3rd slows me down enough that i usually just drop to neutral and coast that last 10 feet with the brake. I haven't had to tow with this girl yet so maybe it will be different in that circumstance. __________________ 1999 2500 Laramie 4x4, Longbed, nv4500, goose neck hitch, boost/pyro gauges, raptor 100.

11-04-2009, 01:49 AM	#24 (permalink)
little red cummins Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: apalachin, ny Posts: 888 Thanks: 3 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts little red cummins's Truck Pics	haha good point. i forgot bout down shiftin without the clutch! i can usually get it into all the way down to 3rd as well...then run out of realestate. __________________ 2002 2500 4x4 6spd. 3rd Gen. Recon Cab Lights. SB single disk. HOT edge J/A. FASS 150. BHAF and Outer Wear. Silencer ring MIA. 6'' aussies. leveled. 315 procomp m/t. B&W Gooseneck Hitch. Cobra 29 w/ dual 4ft Firesticks. Cumstom Front Bumper. Soon to have 4.10s