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What is the recommended boost limit on the Edge Juice/Attitude for my setup? See sig for details. Stock turbo.
When boost limit is set at 22 the power drops off around 2000 rpm.
p.s. how does the Edge limit the boost does it defuel?
I've got basically the same setup and I don't set a limit at all. I sometimes see 32 or 33 psi but haven't had any problems. I've been told that anything over 30 is just a waste on a 2nd gen.
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99 Dodge Ram 2500, 5-speed, Edge Hot Juice w/attitude, RV275's, 4" turbo back exhaust, BHAF, Pro Comp M/T 33X12.50R17, Leveled, AIRDOG 150, Boost, Pyro pillar guages.
OK I did a search(duh) and found that most get max boost levels of high 20's to mid 30's. So I will set it at 35 for now. I was just concerned about pressure blowing something up on the stock system. I see some discussion about studding and oring replacements for hi performance.
22was a number I pulled off a chart from cummins about recommended boost limits.
I will also be wiring my wastegate shut is this really a good idea? I do tow 7000 lbs. every day.
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2011 2500 4X4 CC HO Outdoorsman, 2" lift, Firestone airbags, Boss 9.2 V plow
2001 2500 4X4 SLT, Edge J+A, 4" SSTBE+SS stacks, FASS 95/150, AFE CAI, 62/65/12 Turbo+150 Sticks,Boss 8.2 V+Daniels Pull Plow,Alum. Dump,2" lift, 33X12.5's, Whelen LEDs
OK I did a search(duh) and found that most get max boost levels of high 20's to mid 30's. So I will set it at 35 for now. I was just concerned about pressure blowing something up on the stock system. I see some discussion about studding and oring replacements for hi performance.
22was a number I pulled off a chart from cummins about recommended boost limits.
I will also be wiring my wastegate shut is this really a good idea? I do tow 7000 lbs. every day.
22 lbs is what it should run stock. I don't think you need to worry about headstuds or anything until you start looking at bigger turbos. I don't think I would wire the wastegate shut either. I was told once in the paste that if you mess with the wastegate, your truck WILL come home in a bushel basket
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99 Dodge Ram 2500, 5-speed, Edge Hot Juice w/attitude, RV275's, 4" turbo back exhaust, BHAF, Pro Comp M/T 33X12.50R17, Leveled, AIRDOG 150, Boost, Pyro pillar guages.
I've got basically the same setup and I don't set a limit at all. I sometimes see 32 or 33 psi but haven't had any problems. I've been told that anything over 30 is just a waste on a 2nd gen.
I had mine set to cut off at 39, kind of arbitrary but whatever. It did have 75hp injectors, filter, intake and exhaust though. It would most definitely pull hard up until the point it hit the defuel mark. (which was a whole lot smoother than the ADR's defueling). This was with an hx35 fwiw. When I first got it I had it set at 29 and there was no doubt a lot of power left to be had.
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99 qclb 4x4. Home built Full billet 47re, jammer 5's, o-rings/12mm arps/hamilton springs/home porting, Mebuilt 14cm/hx35-ht3b twins, afe intake, snow stage 2, quad ADR/pulse, airdog. "Don't mod your daily driver"
with stock injectors you shouldnt get over 33psi really or else its leaning the engine out. and if u have enough fuel more boost is better as long as the ratio is right just anything over like 36psi could damage your stock turbo, u can run it at 36psi max and should be fine
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02 sport 6spd, HRVP, edge hot/smarty, 5" exh, FASS, bored/balanced, 181/210 cam, SB OFE, studs/oringed, 62/71/14, DDP 150, ATS manifold, maxspool springs/pushrods, peak IC boots, wicked bypass, HID, sound system, Kore coils, DT control arms, borgeson box/shaft
with stock injectors you shouldnt get over 33psi really or else its leaning the engine out. and if u have enough fuel more boost is better as long as the ratio is right just anything over like 36psi could damage your stock turbo, u can run it at 36psi max and should be fine
mmmmm diesels dont have a throttle body..... and unless your blowing black you are leaning it out, thats how they work.
if you truck is an auto you wont make much more than 22psi unless you clamp the wastegate shut. 17-19psi is stock with an hy35
[QUOTE=Rollin Coal;833290]mmmmm diesels dont have a throttle body..... and unless your blowing black you are leaning it out, thats how they work.
I disagee on the blowing black part. The black smoke is partially unburnt fuel. A perfectly running diesel with just the right ratio of fuel and air will produce just a slight haze.
__________________ 2001 Edge Juice with Attitude (wire tapped and Hot unlocked), HTT SS 62, F1 Mach 4's, Fass 95, Bank's High Ram, Volant intake, BD intercooler, South Bend DD3250, BD short throw shifter, 2" leveling kit, 315's, 540hp/950tq@45psi
i agree with dwanner blowing black is running rich, black smoke=unburnt fuel, the perfect mixture wouldnt have smoke...and i didnt say anything about a throttle body at all so i dont know where u got that from...since they are electronic the computer wont allow the truck to over boost cuz itll lean out and blow up...hence why once u put injectors in the boost goes up, and an auto doesnt have the same turbo as the standard does
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02 sport 6spd, HRVP, edge hot/smarty, 5" exh, FASS, bored/balanced, 181/210 cam, SB OFE, studs/oringed, 62/71/14, DDP 150, ATS manifold, maxspool springs/pushrods, peak IC boots, wicked bypass, HID, sound system, Kore coils, DT control arms, borgeson box/shaft
you said more than 33 psi and your leaning the engine out.
i replied a diesel is "leaning out" 95% of the time..... thats how engine speed is adjusted. there is no throttle body, it has an open hole, you want to idle, you remove fuel, to 80:1, 100:1 air/fuel ratios. you want more engine speed, you add fuel. the only time a diesel isnt "lean" is when its rich..... blowing black. aka, dumping more fuel than is buring.... again..... rich.....
but when the fuel stops goin in so does the air, the boost doesnt stay the same...so run the same amount of fuel at an idle and put 30psi of boost into it and see what happens..if you run it to lean it will cause the engine to start missing, makes more vibrations and takes bearings out...and if u run to much boost its worse for ur turbo cuz its excessive wear and makes no difference for power cuz theres no more fuel to burn if its over boosting
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02 sport 6spd, HRVP, edge hot/smarty, 5" exh, FASS, bored/balanced, 181/210 cam, SB OFE, studs/oringed, 62/71/14, DDP 150, ATS manifold, maxspool springs/pushrods, peak IC boots, wicked bypass, HID, sound system, Kore coils, DT control arms, borgeson box/shaft
but when the fuel stops goin in so does the air, the boost doesnt stay the same...so run the same amount of fuel at an idle and put 30psi of boost into it and see what happens..if you run it to lean it will cause the engine to start missing, makes more vibrations and takes bearings out...and if u run to much boost its worse for ur turbo cuz its excessive wear and makes no difference for power cuz theres no more fuel to burn if its over boosting
you're missing the point. a diesel CAN NOT make more boost than it can use. you can completely lock your waste gate shut, and spin your motor to red line, if you have stock sticks, and stock fueling, your not making more than 18ish psi.
my truck made 28 psi with the hx40, waste gate completely closed, edge on 6x5, from 2200 rpm-3200 rpm. I changed nothing but injectors, and now I can hit 40psi all day long.
you can not build boost in a diesel with out fuel, its not like a gas motor.
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2001 Edge Juice with Attitude (wire tapped and Hot unlocked), HTT SS 62, F1 Mach 4's, Fass 95, Bank's High Ram, Volant intake, BD intercooler, South Bend DD3250, BD short throw shifter, 2" leveling kit, 315's, 540hp/950tq@45psi
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