budget valvesprings and pushrods - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
98.5-02 Performance Parts Discussion Discussion of Performance Parts For the 98-02 Trucks No Advertising ...NO ADVERTISING

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 03:12 PM Thread Starter
Western WA President
 
jigabop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 8,358
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,967 Times in 1,402 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
budget valvesprings and pushrods

I've been talking to Weston a bit about injectors lately, and the subject shifted to my plans for putting some springs and pushrods in first.

hell I'll just quote him:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
Do yourself a favor.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cro-68190-24

Pushrods-Manton Pushrods-High Performance Pushrods

Smith Bros. Push Rods Bend Oregon

Both SB and Manton make the pushrods for the Cummins engine, you will want 3/8" 0.093-0.095" wall thickness, you may be surprised how much money you will save.
My question is: Has anyone tried these before with compounds? I'm not talking about winding the engine out to 4k+ rpm...my purpose will be just to hold the valves closed for ~75psi and to wrap to 3400rpm quickly without valve float.

thoughts?

I usually trust Weston's recommendations, just wondering if anyone else has tried these push rods and springs? seems like a killer deal as far as springs go...bout $200-300 cheaper than anyone else. though it looks like they are 74# installed pressure vs the typical 105# installed pressure.


00 24v powered by the high performance "53" block and "Unicorn Injectors" 576hp/1285tq 8/10/2013
2004 Jetta TDI 5spd Malone S1 + dyn EGR/idle tune
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDon16 View Post
my truck is literally full of Panties already...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'strokeThis_'07 View Post
I'll admit, I was sitting here giggling like a little girl
jigabop is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jigabop For This Useful Post:
98whitelightnin (05-07-2013), Scott1 (05-07-2013), thepureface (10-12-2014)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 03:58 PM
Diesel Head
 
ghostman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Victoria, TX
Posts: 6,783
Thanks: 848
Thanked 1,210 Times in 944 Posts
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
I don't think he would lead you astray. Try them out. Heck, the Hamilton springs I got just looked like something from the hardware store. I then traded a TC for some Manning Motorsports push rods, so I can't help much there. I think the manning rods are solid though.

Two second gens with lots of mods and a 3rd gen just getting started
ghostman is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to ghostman For This Useful Post:
jigabop (05-07-2013)
post #3 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
Western WA President
 
jigabop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 8,358
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,967 Times in 1,402 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
nice...I questioned him on it and his reply

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
That is the spring everyone is selling, the listed installed height is 1.550" for 74lbs @ the seat, but they installed height in a Cummins head is ~ 1.400" for 110lbs @ the seat.
anyone wanna save several hundred on springs?!

00 24v powered by the high performance "53" block and "Unicorn Injectors" 576hp/1285tq 8/10/2013
2004 Jetta TDI 5spd Malone S1 + dyn EGR/idle tune
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDon16 View Post
my truck is literally full of Panties already...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'strokeThis_'07 View Post
I'll admit, I was sitting here giggling like a little girl
jigabop is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to jigabop For This Useful Post:
250pipeliner (04-08-2014)
 
post #4 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 05:07 PM
Diesel Head
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 1,087
Thanks: 52
Thanked 154 Times in 137 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
I'd give em a shot! Problem is I won't be doing twins for about a year.... Unless a miracle happens, or my money tree starts producing more.

1999 2500 QCLB 24valve, 4x4, built auto, air dog II, bhaf, isspro boost/pyro/fp/trans, 4" tbe, edge comp, leveling kit, 285's, tow mirrors, scan gauge II, new vp44
Jbh97009 is offline  
post #5 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 05:21 PM Thread Starter
Western WA President
 
jigabop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 8,358
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,967 Times in 1,402 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Guess I'll be the guinea pig. just ordered them... $123.92 shipped for a full set of 24, what the hell might as well right?! saves me $200+ over other "house brand" springs. or close to $300 savings over hamilton springs.

now for push rods...

00 24v powered by the high performance "53" block and "Unicorn Injectors" 576hp/1285tq 8/10/2013
2004 Jetta TDI 5spd Malone S1 + dyn EGR/idle tune
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDon16 View Post
my truck is literally full of Panties already...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'strokeThis_'07 View Post
I'll admit, I was sitting here giggling like a little girl
jigabop is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to jigabop For This Useful Post:
Scott1 (05-07-2013)
post #6 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 07:40 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 8,204
Thanks: 1,260
Thanked 1,961 Times in 1,473 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
wow....fastest sticky in CF history...
cumminsdog is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to cumminsdog For This Useful Post:
ghostman (05-07-2013)
post #7 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
Western WA President
 
jigabop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 8,358
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,967 Times in 1,402 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
pushrods ordered via manton @ 3/8" .095" wall thickness

and the price for a set is:

drum roll ............................................ ..........























$127.68 for a set of 12. (before shipping costs)

best online price I could find from vendors and such was $195 before shipping for maxspools... so that saves $67 and some change

00 24v powered by the high performance "53" block and "Unicorn Injectors" 576hp/1285tq 8/10/2013
2004 Jetta TDI 5spd Malone S1 + dyn EGR/idle tune
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDon16 View Post
my truck is literally full of Panties already...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'strokeThis_'07 View Post
I'll admit, I was sitting here giggling like a little girl
jigabop is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to jigabop For This Useful Post:
erendall86 (07-27-2013)
post #8 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 08:04 PM
Diesel Head
 
Carbur8tr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,383
Thanks: 142
Thanked 245 Times in 177 Posts
iTrader Score: 2 reviews
Ill give it a shot, not like I have enough to really push up past 55psi but I have been needing to do springs and studs for a while. Let me know how your install goes, do you have the spring compressor?

Kody

"To succeed in life, you need two things: ignorance and confidence."
Carbur8tr is offline  
post #9 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
Western WA President
 
jigabop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 8,358
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,967 Times in 1,402 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
no...was thinkin of buyin one from Jamie.

btw stock springs are only something like 50# springs...

as I said in the original post though: I have no plans on turning 4k+rpm so I'm not doing aftermarket retainers or rockers or any of that...just the rods and springs. hell this budget setup is cheaper than a set of springs alone from most places!

00 24v powered by the high performance "53" block and "Unicorn Injectors" 576hp/1285tq 8/10/2013
2004 Jetta TDI 5spd Malone S1 + dyn EGR/idle tune
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDon16 View Post
my truck is literally full of Panties already...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'strokeThis_'07 View Post
I'll admit, I was sitting here giggling like a little girl
jigabop is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to jigabop For This Useful Post:
cummins724 (05-08-2013)
post #10 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 08:31 PM
On call 24/7
 
98whitelightnin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Odessa FL
Posts: 10,918
Thanks: 1,762
Thanked 1,124 Times in 993 Posts
iTrader Score: 13 reviews
Nice find, I'm sure Weston wouldn't lead you a stray.


Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App

2012 Laramie Longhorn, EFI by Ryan, Thuren, Carli
1995 Dually, Weston's 5x.016, 4k GSK, 5" FloPro, 255/85r16 Toyo M/T, Goerend, ARP, 60# Springs, BW 62/65/14, BW 75/96/1.10, Isspro, Fass 125, BDP Sump, 7mm DV's, 751 HP 1883 FP Torque on NOS
1998 P-Pumped 24v, 4x4, NV4500 swap


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 3 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
98whitelightnin is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to 98whitelightnin For This Useful Post:
jigabop (05-07-2013)
post #11 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
Western WA President
 
jigabop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 8,358
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,967 Times in 1,402 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by 98whitelightnin View Post
Nice find, I'm sure Weston wouldn't lead you a stray.


Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
He didn't as you can see from post #3

Weston verified that they are 110# springs. I was just reading the specs on the summit site and they were 74# seated pressure @ 1.550 installed height. Cummins installed height is ~1.400 making them 110# seated pressure.

Anyway all this crap should arrive in a week or two, then I'll take some pics and attempt to get this stuff installed and re-adjust my valves.

00 24v powered by the high performance "53" block and "Unicorn Injectors" 576hp/1285tq 8/10/2013
2004 Jetta TDI 5spd Malone S1 + dyn EGR/idle tune
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselDon16 View Post
my truck is literally full of Panties already...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'strokeThis_'07 View Post
I'll admit, I was sitting here giggling like a little girl
jigabop is offline  
post #12 of 79 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 08:49 PM
Diesel Head
 
Carbur8tr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,383
Thanks: 142
Thanked 245 Times in 177 Posts
iTrader Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by jigabop View Post
no...was thinkin of buyin one from Jamie.

btw stock springs are only something like 50# springs...

as I said in the original post though: I have no plans on turning 4k+rpm so I'm not doing aftermarket retainers or rockers or any of that...just the rods and springs. hell this budget setup is cheaper than a set of springs alone from most places!
Im guessing you went with the 304's?

Edit: From Hamiltoncams.com "If you are over 750hp with your ISB, the cylinder pressures dictate that you step up to our extreme duty pushrods which consist of a 3/8" .095" wall intake pushrod and a 7/16" .120" exhaust pushrod."

Someone want to give us the run down on the big differences between hard drawn, and melonite?

"To succeed in life, you need two things: ignorance and confidence."

Last edited by Carbur8tr; 05-07-2013 at 09:01 PM.
Carbur8tr is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome